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Is this accurate? Is 'Aryan' even a race, or is it just a self given ethnicity that was misinterpreted throughout history? I know Indo-European is a language grouping, does that tie in at all? Lastly, are R1A/R1B haplotypes related? I don't really understand how all this works but I figured here would be a good place as it is both historical in the migratory sense and humanities because it's about race.

t. curious tajik who wants to brag to european friends about being aryan for the memes
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Aryans were shitskin charioteers that got #refugeewelcomed
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>>2637889

>shitskin
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Tajiks are more Aryan(Andronovo/Yamna) than Iranians or Afghans but less than Pamiris.
But Andronovos were Europeans.
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>>2637988
I'm a Tajik afghan
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>>2637875
>tajik
So how did you guys end up looking like pic related? It is not apeish at all.
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>>2638042

You're part Aryan and part local.
If you want to identify as Aryan then whatever but it's your European heritage that you should be proud of IMO. You're part European and no one can take that from you.
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>>2638074
I'm also 50% mixture of polish/lithuanian/irish.
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>>2637875
People who speak Iranian and North Indian languages historically call themselves Aryan.

The Nazis appropriated the term to use for Germanic speakers.
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>>2638118

I think I've seen your pic on /int/ or maybe some other half-Tajik. He looked pretty white to me.
You should identify as European IMO if you look it.
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>>2638074
>You're part Aryan and part local

Interesting question would be who the "locals" are in this case.

I remember reading a study somewhere that showed that Iranians only had like 25% IE admixture, and that the majority of the rest was from "indigenous" Iranians, but it didn't specify who these "indigenous Iranians" were.

I know Europe had people living there before IE invasions, so I assume Iran/Afghanistan/Tajikistan had natives too.
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The Aryans were originally from Iran who were pastoralists and herded cattle, sheeps, goats, etc and moved into the Central Asian steppe.
>R1a-M420 is one of the most widely spread Y-chromosome haplogroups; however, its substructure within Europe and Asia has remained poorly characterized. Using a panel of 16244 male subjects from 126 populations sampled across Eurasia, we identified 2923 R1a-M420 Y-chromosomes and analyzed them to a highly granular phylogeographic resolution. Based on spatial distributions and diversity patterns within the R1a-M420 clade, particularly rare basal branches detected primarily within Iran and eastern Turkey, we conclude that the initial episodes of haplogroup R1a diversification likely occurred in the vicinity of present-day Iran.

>The genetic basis of a number of physical features of the Yamnaya people were ascertained by the ancient DNA study conducted by Haak et al. (2015), Wilde et al.(2014), Mathieson et al. (2015) : they were genetically tall (phenotypic height is determined by both genetics and environmental factors), overwhelmingly dark-eyed (brown), dark-haired and had a skin colour that was moderately light, though somewhat darker than that of the average modern European.[18][5]

The original peoples of eastern Europe looked like the Finnish. This is why blonde hair and blue eyes are found most commonly in Finland, a non Indo-European country.
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>>2637902
They had brown hair mostly before mixing with orange skinned hunter gatherer scum. Nice proofs.
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>>2639137
>The proto-Indo-Aryan speaking peoples who came originally from the Central Asian and southern Siberian steppes were pastoralists, rode horses, invented the chariot, worked extensively with bronze, and moved into Iran.

fixd
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>>2639160
You realize that they existed long before 2000BCE right?
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>>2639184

Chariots? Earliest archeological evidence we have is 2000 BCE.

Surely you don't mean wagons or carts with solid wheels. Chariots have spoked wheels.
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>>2637875
Sintashta (proto-Indo-Iranians) were fully R1a, R1b had nothing to do with them. I'm a R1a carrier from Finland, myself.
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>>2639137

Nah they didn't have any genetic links to Iran and R1a and R1b have been found in the European steppe before the bronze age in Khvalynsk culture.
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