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Japanese swordsmanship during World War 2

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The Japanese officers were trained in Kenjutsu,but how useful exactly was it during that time? there's a lot of stories about duels between Japanese officers and Filipino Escrimadors during the invasion of the Philippines.
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>>2637510
Swords were mostly used for executions, the swords were cheaply made and mass produced also. Swords probably saw the most usage in China, look up the 'contest to kill 100 Chinese with a sword'.
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>>2637552
were they duels or more like executions?
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>>2637559
Mostly executions. Part of it is just the cultural significance of the sword to the Japanese. Unfortunately the majority of swords from this period were cheap and mass produced so they have very little value.
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>>2637572
I once heard a story from a history forum of an managing to break a Japanese officer's sword using his Kampilan (or was it a bolo?) always been skeptical of it. but maybe this explains that story.
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>>2637589
Filipino are the strongest race in the world.
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>>2637596
G L O R I O U S

A D O B O

S T E E L
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>>2637510
Only used for executions. japs are cowards
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>>2637596
Is this the Flip version of WE WUZ KINGS?
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>>2637510
Japanese swordsmanship in that era was an interesting mix of old and new. While many of the traditional schools survived many military recruits had only passing familiarity with them.

Most young men had some experience with kendo, that is fighting with mock bamboo swords and armor. Originally this was done as a supplement to many kenjutsu schools but by WWII it had become a homogenized art of its own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIGJLfH_UjQ

and the military variety

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJSrlwLOGuo
Unfortunately this had some draw backs, as the quick footwork, and snappy strikes of the bamboo sword fencing were often impractical for use of a real sword in the field. To that end the Toyama miltary academy developed a curriculum for its officers developed by some of the leading swordsmen of the time. the system they developed was called Gunto soho, or military sword method, and consisted of a series of simple solo cutting drills along with a series of paired kata against both sword and bayonet. Rather than traditional clothing trainees wore military kit. Today this system survives in part under various names such as toyama ryu and nakamura ryu.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji5PQOcvnOs

While there was some sword fighing done, particularly in China and part of south east asia the sword was not a particularly useful side arm and yes it was often involved in some pretty nasty executions, even one of the leading swordsman of the war Nakamura Taisaburo characterized the sword play of the time as "satsujinken" murderous swordsmanship as apposed to "katsujinken" or swordsmanship used to protect or uplift life.

Nakamura was an interesting figure, he was a sword instructor in china and served in special assault unit which were charge the Chinese with swords drawn. After the war he modified the military system with his own ideas and took many westerners as students.
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>>2637510
>>2637791
In general Japanese swordsmanship of the meiji to showa era was seen as being of a very high level by western observers,

however for the traditional Japanese schools the meiji revolution and the end of wwII had horrible effects. The sword arts nearly died after the sword ban act, and when they made a comeback there was strong government pressure for standardization so that kendo and jujutsu could be taught in schools. This caused the loss of even more styles as dojo stopped practicing their traditional kata and sparring and instead adopted the standardized practices of the butokukai.

The Showa era wartime government often forcefully recruited teachers of old schools to teach civilians to use simple weapons like bamboo spears in case of an invasion.

After the war there was a another period iof decline in sword arts and the post war standardized kendo was even less realistic than the prewar that preceded it, with narrower stances and even more snappy strikes.
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>>2637552
Were there any recorded duels between the Japanese and Chinese? like that scene in ip man but with swords.
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>>2637510
>The Japanese officers were trained in Kenjutsu,but how useful exactly was it during that time?
It wasn't

Literally everyone they fought were better in melee than they were.
>Chinese "Big Sword" units and stormtroopers.
>US soldiers who were simply too big for them.
>Nepalese Gurkhas.
>Filipino Guerillas.

Nip officers tend to only have swords because they were memeing themselves as new samurai due to being jacked up on ultranationalism. Prior 1930s, their swords resembled that of Europe's and were purely ceremonial. Meanwhile the above people tended to have experience on actually killing niggers with shorter weapons in trench fights.
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>>2640186
Japs generally encountered sword wielding Chinks in two forms

The first are professional soldiers belonging to "Big Sword Units." However despite their name (formally "sword and pistol units") they're basically Chinese versions of German stormtroopers: an infiltration and shock force who spearheaded infantry attacks on trenches. While they did have swords, they also carried pistols, carbines, SMGs, sacks filled with grenades, and shorter weapons like knives or picks. CQC basically.

The other scenario is from Chinese guerillas. Often short on firearms, Guerillas tended to have tactics to acquire more fireamrs: targeting Japanese patrols and assaulting them via tactics involving those with firearms suppressing the Jap patrol while shitloads of their brothers in arms wielding grenades, spears, and swords will bumrush the Japs, hopefully survive the charge, and kill them, afterwards scooping up their guns and ammo.
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>>2637510
Jap originally design Katana because he want to reduce population of Japan.

This is why Katana useless in modern age
Katana need two hands to operate and reduce population
Modern Jap has figured out to treduce population with one hand, by sit in bedroom and masturbate hikkimori and not get girlfriend because he ugly Jap

Jap originally design Katana so strike fear into western heart

Now, he just make porn video, and loud squeel of ugly Jap woman give weaboo westener fear fear that his mother can hear porn play

Katana most pointless weapon in world, most pointless other than 'Penis shrinking ray' shot at Jap who dick already so small. Why you keep brag on your fucking shit weapon? Nobody impressed.
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>>2640278
Korea I presume.
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>>2640278
Good post jae kwon
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>>2640278
not this again
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>>2637596
The MOST POWERFUL(tm) you mean
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>>2640301
>>2640299
I haven't ever seen an anti-jap shitpost before, this is quite funny to me desu
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>>2640220
The Japanese prewar government never considered their swords purely ceremonial, even when they were using kyu gunto. Nor did many Europeans before WWI

I would love to know were your information on melee combat in WWII comes from
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>>2640501
MOST POWERFUL™
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>>2640278
>Jap originally design Katana because he want to reduce population of Japan.
>This is why Katana useless in modern age
>Katana need two hands to operate and reduce population
>Modern Jap has figured out to treduce population with one hand, by sit in bedroom and masturbate hikkimori and not get girlfriend because he ugly Jap
>Jap originally design Katana so strike fear into western heart
>Now, he just make porn video, and loud squeel of ugly Jap woman give weaboo westener fear fear that his mother can hear porn play
>Katana most pointless weapon in world, most pointless other than 'Penis shrinking ray' shot at Jap who dick already so small. Why you keep brag on your fucking shit weapon? Nobody impressed.

What's the origin of this pasta?
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>>2642515
>>2641068
>>2640603
>>2640501
>>2640301
>>2640299
>>2640367
>>2640278

Sometimes I wish we could discuss history on this board rather than memes
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>The contest to kill 100 people using a sword (百人斬り競争 hyakunin-giri kyōsō?) is a wartime account of a contest between two Japanese Army officers during the Japanese invasion of China over who could first kill 100 people with a sword. The two officers were later executed on war crimes charges for their involvement.[1] Since that time, the historicity of the event has been hotly contested, often by Japanese nationalists or revisionist historians seeking to invalidate the historiography of the Nanking Massacre and by descendants of the two officers.[2]
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>>2637596

Not strong enough to avoid getting an ass whooping from Floyd Mayweather kek
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>>2640278
t. Seung Hae-yeong
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