Is the Trivium a meme?

>>2636311
>Why would learning grammar, logic, and rhetoric be enough to establish a foundation for further education?

They are the basic tools you need to make use of later education. A modern curriculum would surely add math to the "trivium", tho.

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>>2636473

Is that's all that's required? What about history, arts, literature, and writing, too?

Why does the Trivium commit to one hierarchy or another, and how can we do better in the modern age? I like the idea of grammar, logic, and rhetoric being foundational for clear, rigorous thinking, but I don't know if they're fundamental tools common to all fields instead of just unorthodox but useful subjects.

>>2636473

I would have a hierarchy of

>Core:
Mathematics
Grammar
Logic
Rhetoric

>Semi-Core:
Literature
History
Philosophy
Writing

Added onto Semi-Core:

Physics (Mechanics & E/M)
General Chemistry [Perhaps not important enough]

-- -- -- -- --

Once all of those subjects have been covered, I think you would have the foundations to tackle anything that you've wished.

>>2636565
>What about history, arts, literature, and writing, too?

Those are the quadrivium, the curriculum for older children. First, you learn how to think, read, speak, and count, THEN you learn about kings and cabbages and cathedrals.

>>2636864

>Core:
Mathematics
Grammar
Logic
Rhetoric

>Semi-Core:
Writing
Literature
History
Philosophy
Physics
Music

Sounds about right.