Why is it that the Jews keep getting repeatedly smacked, left

>>2633285
Rich dudes who culturally distinguish themselves are easier to target, it's far easier to kick somebody out if you see them as a cultural enclave.

Middleman minorities tend to inspire hatred.

This is also true for Chinese in Southeast Asia and Indians in East Africa.

This being said, systematic antisemitism was really only a big thing in Europe after the blood libels and the Middle East after Hitler and the Wahhabists.

>>2633285

It's because they wouldn't assimilate, and because their religion was superior (more organized, older) than their hosts' (Egyptians, Christians etc).

Back before America, if a group wouldn't assimilate they were usually heavily taxed, and then eventually killed.

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In three instances Judaism has held mankind hostage in the most tormenting manner. First, with the Mosaic Law. Monotheism is the least natural thing in the world. When the ancient Greeks say there are 10,000 gods, it’s natural, logical, delightful; they inhabit the world with beauty, reconciliation. The Jew responds: ”Unimaginable! You can’t have an image of God, you can’t have a conception of him other than an ethical, moral one. He is an all-powerful God; he avenges himself to the third generation, etc.” The Mosaic Law, the morality of monotheism, is terrible: That was the first act of blackmail. The second instance: Christianity. You have Jesus, the Jew, who enjoins people: “You will give everything you have to the poor. You will sacrifice for others. Altruism isn’t a virtue, it’s the very duty of mankind. You will live humbly.” This is a fundamentally Judaic message: The Sermon on the Mount is made up of quotes, you know, from Isaiah, Jeremiah and Amos. And the third time you have Marx, who proclaims, “If you have a fine house with three empty rooms and there are people all around you who have no home, you are the basest swine.” There is no possible defense for human egotism, greed, the lust for money, success. What did the revolutionary Saint-Just say? Happiness is a new idea in Europe. What did Marx say? Justice, a new idea in Europe. Enough of these terrible inequalities. Beggars are increasing on the sidewalks of our capitals — in Paris and in London. Three times, Jews have demanded, “Become a person. Become human.” It’s frightening.

>>2633306
This pretty much. The fate of the Chinese in America and parts of south Asia in particular really mirror the experience of Jews in Europe.

>>2633325
And then as a side note, Freud comes and takes away our dreams. He doesn’t even let us dream in peace. As for the great prophets, Isaiah declared himself the one who wakes us in the night, the one whose cries will awaken the city. Jeremiah pleads, “Wake up! Stop sleeping!” But it’s really mean to deprive us of our petty bourgeois sleep. Sleeping well is the luxury of the bourgeoisie, the middle classes. People who are starving never enjoy a good sleep. And Freud comes along and takes away even that. No, really, when Hitler declared in his Table Talk (Tischgespräche) that “the Jew invented conscience,” he was right. Absolutely. It was actually a profound statement from that evil man...We can be proud of this, or we can deplore it. But anti-Semitism is a kind of human cry, “Leave me alone!” It’s a cry against the moral pestering Judaism represents.

well, they rebelled against the romans, while being on the periphery of several titanic empires before that.

outside of that they live a very insular life in other countries, they seem to hoard resources from their neighbors, this isn't a meme, this is literally what their orthodox communities do

it's not suprisging that this leads to suspicion and resentment no matter what country they're in

Lol wtf we have like 4 threads asking this exact question

>>2633326

You wouldn't reference whites in Rhodesia?

>>2633361
No, because they weren't a middleman minority, they were the oppressive minority in top. Indians in East Africa are a much more relevant example from that region.

The Jews are an insular and insufferable minority at the best of times, they really and truly believe themselves to be better than everyone else. And due to the stupidity of early Christianity and its ban on usury the Jews developed into a well connected and wealthy minority, with a disproportionate amount of influence.

>>2633373
>they really and truly believe themselves to be better than everyone else
Everybody does.

>>2633367

One could say the Afrikaners were middlemen to the British ruling class above them.

>>2633285
>right-wing discriminates against you
>be forced to go to another country
>agitate against right-wing there
>right-wing gets pissed
>starts discriminating against you
>repeat

Not sure who started it, but this seems to be the pattern

Of course we all know antisemitism in the Middle Ages was based on religion and later antisemitism was based on ethnic identity instead of religion.

The real question concerning antisemitism is whether or not it existed in ancient times and if so, in what capacity. I really don't think ancient near-Eastern peoples would have viewed Hebrews any different than they would have viewed Phillistines, Moabites, Canaanites or any other people who lived in that area, though I could be wrong. Of course whether or not any group of people had a good or bad relationship with the Hebrews is entirely different from whether or not they were "antisemitic". I wonder if there are any writings on this subject.

>>2633464
Religion in the middle ages was just code for ethnic identity.

Protestants split from Rome because they were Germanics and wanted a "Germanic" religion.

>>2633467
>Religion in the middle ages was just code for ethnic identity.
No, that is wrong.
>Protestants split from Rome because they were Germanics and wanted a "Germanic" religion.
No, that is wrong.

>>2633285
1) Moneylending and ursury
2) They refused to assimilate
3) They're easy targets for conspiracy theories because of their higher intelligence
4) The fact that they had no nation and no loyalty to anything but Judaism. This isn't a bad thing, but because of this the Jews could get kicked around easily because they didn't have anything to defend themselves with

>>2633285
I assume it has to do with them being considered "outsiders" due to their religious/cultural ties. Other people see them as an other, and it's easy to treat people like shit when you see them as fundamentally different from you.

>>2633464
>The real question concerning antisemitism is whether or not it existed in ancient times and if so, in what capacity.
The Romans fucking hated the Jews, but that was mainly for political reasons

>>2633482
>their higher intelligence

Where did you hear this?

Jewish migrants to America performed well on a particular set of tests in the Fifties. Today, there is no discernible difference in intelligence between Jewish people and any other white people, though there is still a different in outcomes.

>>2633477

It's a fact.

Ask yourself why most Germanic nations are Protestant. Ask yourself why the Irish are catholics (Italo-Celtic family). Ask yourself why are there national orthodox churches.

>>2633490

Why did half of Germans remain Catholic?

>>2633325
>>2633329

Literally nothing wrong with this

they inspire hatred because they are organized, which naturally creates an us vs them attitude on both sides, and they are usually involved in businesses that are predatory.

>>2633285
You see when God called them the "chosen people" he really meant something like "chosen punching bags". I don't know if they mistranslated or misheard him or something but that's how it is

>>2633515

One decent criticism is the 'master race' stuff.

>>2633496
>Why did half of Germans remain Catholic?
>half
>Germans

Go to /int/ with your misinformed self

>>2633535

Then why did over a quarter of Germans remain Catholic, and under a half of Germans convert to Protestantism?

>implying you didn't know what I meant

everyone gets it, they just don't die off from it.

>>2633539
>Germans

Learn the difference between Germanics and Germans, /int/ tard

>Then why did over a quarter of Germans remain Catholic

Germanicized Italo-Celts, obvi

>>2633549

Wow. You really don't want to talk about this, huh?

Let's talk about imprecision in language instead.

What is a 'tard'? What does 'obvi' mean?

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>>2633555

My friend, this (Pic-Related) is the Germanic race, this is what one means when one says "Germanics" and when ancient texts say "Germans". Over 90% of Germanics are Protestants.

>>2633561

What an oddly specific definition.

I guess technically you're right. A hundred years ago there was a more even split, today it's mostly Protestant.

Judaism doesn't condemn usury, and encourages the subjugation of non-Jews through trickery. The vast majority of Jews, of course, are not usurers and don't want to subjugate anyone even if they could, the same way that whites catch a lot of shit in America because the so-called 1% are all old white (or Jewish, but pointing that out is anti-semitic) men, despite most whites being poor fucks subjugated by the system as well.

But in the past, when most of the civilised world had little usury because other religions condemned it, some Jews would fill the niche of bankers and lenders and make their profit off of usury, which earned all Jews the reputation of being tricksters and swindlers that target non-Jews when they are at the lowest point in their life, pretending to be helpful so that they can own their target financially for the rest of their lives. Even now that usury is common among non-Jews, a minority of Jews form the majority of those that control the media because they got their foot in the door on that, and they are regarded with suspicion as a result. It doesn't help that some orthodox Jews openly espouse the idea that non-Jews are inferior and meant to serve Jews, or that many Jews use the Holocaust as condemnation of anti-semites (which, from the perspective of an anti-semite, is like a thief saying "you cannot be suspicious of me, I've spent time in prison for theft!")

Apart from that, momentum. Jews have been really strongly hated almost everywhere they've been and that hatred has never really gone away, even among people that don't remember why it's there to begin with.

tl;dr: People suck. Jews suck, goyim suck. Everyone wants a scapegoat who sucks the most, a minority of Jews usually fit the bill.

>>2633572
>What an oddly specific definition.

It's nothing new.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_peoples

Modern day "Germans/Austrians" are genetically and phenotypically the least Germanic of the Germanics/Nordics.

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>>2633482
>They refused to assimilate

this is not really true at all. they were forced into ghettos and segregated, not allowed to own any land. the jews who got expelled were mostly impoverished jewish tailors with nothing who all they did was study the Torah.

yes, since they banned christians from moneylending and also barred jews from doing a lot of common occupations christians did (an important point) jews were the only moneylenders. it was a smart move economically. once you owed the jews too much money, you expel them all.

these people who assume it was "greedy" jews who led to them expelling them are ignorant. the majority of jews were just poor scribes. a lot of the massacres were over petty shit like "Host desecration," Catholics crying because they heard a rumor jews stick knives into holy bread to hurt Jesus. It's what makes the /pol/ kids flocking in here so funny to me, when you read the details of some of the massacres they are for the most obscure reasons to slaughter thousands of random poor villagers. Yet some will insist these were the result of some moneylender ripping off the people.

life wasn't all bad for them, they were actually one of the most literate group in Europe while being one of the poorest, and them being segregating saved so many of them during the plague. Although then they blamed the jews for the plague and slaughtered thousands more of them.

>>2633605
>banned christians from moneylending and also barred jews from doing a lot of common occupations christians did (an important point) jews were the only moneylenders. it was a smart move economically. once you owed the jews too much money, you expel them all.
>these people who assume it was "greedy" jews who led to them expelling them are ignorant. the majority of jews were just poor scribes. a lot of the massacres were over petty shit like "Host desecration," Catholics crying because they heard a rumor jews stick knives into holy bread to hurt Jesus. It's what makes the /pol/ kids flocking in here so funny to me, when you read the details of s

This.

Jews who were allowed to assimilate, did. (Jews in Italy/Sicily/Greece all assimilated)

It was the Jews that were discriminated against by the state that weren't allowed to assimilate, that didn't and became the Ashkenazis we all know and love. Those Eurocucks created their own mess.

>>2633463
>implying there was ever a such thing as "right-wing" back then and everyone wasn't just religious nut cases

if it wasn't for the crusades who knows if jews would have ever not assimilated

fuck off neckbeard

>>2633301
>Rich dudes who culturally distinguish themselves are easier to target

If you think even a large minority of Eastern European jews were rich, you're insane. The only jews who were rich back then were the Sephardic jews, who were among some of the first settlers into America. The Ashkenazim who came to America in the 1880's were ghetto dwellers who had literally nothing.

I'm not denying they are probably the richest minority at this point, but historically they were immobilized by ghettoization whether they were in the mellahs of Morocco, the corners of Eastern Europe, or if they were Ethiopian Jews being enslaved by their christian neighbors.

it's kinda the "immortal curse" their civilization lasted from the Bronze age until now whereas most civilizations at that time have long been destroyed. Especially when those civilizations, like the Hebrews, had their state destroyed which is usually a death sentence but not to them.

so it was just that they lived long enough to take the damage where other ethnic groups either died before or lived after most of them.

Why mostly because of religion. ie for christians jews are christ killers and for muslims they are imposters

>>2633382
But noone is more two faced about it when it comes to jews. Nobody tries to make their host rot from the inside by advocating for one thing and then act the exact opposite in their own country.

This thread gives a lot of great reasons why but here's another one I haven't seen. When you are a guest it is wise to never outperform the head of the household, many feelings follow jealousy, none of them positive. Most everything else needs to be understood about the Jewish people in Europe can be found in Nietzche's writings.

>>2634592

the greeks are still around, and got their country back first

greeks confirmed for the ultimate race

>>2634656
Name one Jew who acted one thing, and did another. I promise you you are confusing two Jews as being one.

Nietzche:

>As for the Jews, the people who possess the art of adaptability par excellence, [my line of argument] suggests immediately that one might see them virtually as a world-historical arrangement for the production of actors, a veritable breeding ground for actors. And it really is time to ask: What good actor today is not — a Jew? The Jew as a born Litterat [‘man of letters’], as the true master of the European press, also exercises his power by virtue of his theatrical gifts; for the man of letters is essentially an actor: he plays the ‘expert,’ the ‘specialist.’

Actors, Journalists and activists are all cut from the same cloth, and Jews cover all these grounds, this why they have been involved in several political movements in the western world despite being a minority group, but there is no overlap for instance, in the ethno-nationalist zionist Jew crowd and the post-modernist marxist globalist Jew crowd.

>>2634705
George Soros is the overlap

>>2634720
I don't think he has any obligation to either groups. He said it himself in his autobiography that he pretty much reveres himself as a messiah-like figure. I do wonder though, about the supposed Kushner connection that just came out.

>>2633285
They are uniquely nationalist and hipster as a group. Instead of, like pretty much every other ethno-religious group in history, assimilating and merging completely into their home region of origin, they have deliberately cultivated a faith that exists solely to mark them out as unique and forces them to engage in practices like circumcision to differentiate themselves from the people around them. Even Hellenism had trouble assimilating them like the rest of the Near East.

It's unnatural for a group to have survived thousands of years as one entity. It fosters distrust since they are seen as incredibly nepotistic.

>>2634705
There need not be an overlap of one person (although after searching I'm sure you'd find them). It is enough to merely point out the fact how the liberal and progressive jews only focus on the western civilization and have no quarrel with how their own Jewish state has become the very embodiment of what they fight against.

Such blindness can only be willful and it does not take much to see behind it.

The jews should understand that if you start treating an entire civilization/ethnicity as one collective that must answer for its crimes then it must also include them and any argument for individuality will be thrown out the window.

>>2633301
> duh goyims so dumb n brutish dey attak us jews (who dindu nuffin, honest!) cuz dey jealous of our money
> 100+ times
> it had nothing to do with our behavior though!

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>>2633306
> libel

> the gentiles all across Europe made it all up every time! we dindu nuffin, honest!
> take our word over your ancestors!

>>2634222

>culturally distinguish themselves
>themselves

>>2634826

>antisemitic people wrote about it so it must have happened exactly as they describe
>still including Little Hugh of Lincoln

>>2634812

It's an interesting observation that while Jews promote individualism in public, they practice extreme collectivism in private.

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>>2634848
What great lengths to slander the Jews! And some of those victims are even canonized to this day... occuring so sporadically and randomally through out Europe... pure coincidence!

>>2634848
>antisemitic people wrote about

Did antisemitic people write the Torah?

>God telling Jews to randomly slaughter people every chapter

>>2633285
Jealously of wealth, perceived undermining of society, stereotypes are based on one or two events and remain, unlike black stereotypes where the majority are like the stereotype

>>2633464
>Of course we all know antisemitism in the Middle Ages was based on religion

True in Spain and Germany, not really true in England or France. That had everything to do with them doing usury when it was against the law for ANYONE to do so (England) and for trying very hard to dodge Tax on usury (France). They challenged royal law and did so as commoners. The kings of both of those lands could not back down from that.

>>2634689
you're clearly misinterpreting nietzsche friend

>>2634819
this isn't an argument. go back to /pol/ please. if you think "their behavior" is why they expelled a shit ton of poor jews who weren't moneylenders then you're an imbecile. they built their whole economy by leeching off jews, when they owed them too much they would seize their property and expel them all.

it's funny how you guys point out how many times they got expelled but don't mention the actual reasons they gave at the time. unless you're as autistic as your ancestors and truly believe they were the real cause behind "the plague"

>>2634850
>Jews promote individualism in public, they practice extreme collectivism in private.

source?

>>2634826
the funny thing is even if every single one of these was true, which I don't believe, it's still one millionth of the amount of crucifixions and murders done in the name of Christianity and Islam. there are massacres alone that outnumber the whole death toll on that list. It's kind of funny actually how some of you want jews to be responsible for every action of a jew but you aren't responsible for every action of whatever group you fit in. Also, you like to blame every jew for every action while not giving every jew credit for every jews action.

>>2634966
>source?

What source?

It's a fact that most of the civil rights advocates, liberal media etc are Jewish, and we both know those same people preaching individuality to non-Jews, go to Shabbos on friday and break bread with other Jews talking about "the Tribe".

>>2634989
you can't fight for equality and also identify with an ethnic group? please explain how. almost everyone identifies with whatever ethnic group they are. there are paddies who talk about Celtic pride and Iranians who talk about Persian pride. You're not even making a good point. There are liberals in every part of the world (Bassem Youssef) that also have pride in their roots.

>>2635003
>you can't fight for equality and also identify with an ethnic group?

The "equality" they're fighting for are usually individual rights, like Trans, Gay and women's issues. Meanwhile they don't criticize their Rabbi's orthodox wife wearing a headscarf and being a submissive baby machine.

The Irish, Persians and other groups aren't on the forefront of the Progressive Liberalist gravy train as the Jewish community is. So bad comparison.

If an Irish/Persian/Indian/etc etc is a nationalist, they're socially conservative. But if a Jewish person is a nationalist, they're often socially liberal. That's the two-facedness.

>>2635016
>The "equality" they're fighting for are usually individual rights, like Trans, Gay and women's issues. Meanwhile they don't criticize their Rabbi's orthodox wife wearing a headscarf and being a submissive baby machine.

Your first mistake. Thinking these "liberal" jews even have rabbis. I lived in an area with a lot of jews and barely any of them knew anything about Judaism or believed in anything. The Haredi will treat jews who aren't religious just as shitty as they treat everyone else.

>The Irish, Persians and other groups aren't on the forefront of the Progressive Liberalist gravy train as the Jewish community is. So bad comparison.

Not at all. Jews are a non-factor population wise. There are 5 million jews in the US. There are almost 10 times as many African Americans who vote democrat at a way higher rate. Your issue is thinking some jewish journalist really is affecting anything in the world.

>If an Irish/Persian/Indian/etc etc is a nationalist, they're socially conservative. But if a Jewish person is a nationalist, they're often socially liberal. That's the two-facedness.

You're simply wrong. You can find hundreds of examples. Literally look at anybody in the middle east, Saudi Arabia, Iran, wherever that was locked up for being too liberal. They all still had pride in their Persian/Saudi roots.

If you think it's impossible/immoral as a principle to fight for equality or be a liberal while taking pride in your roots I don't know what to tell you. What is St. Patricks day then just a bunch of conservatives? Saying that all persians/indians/irish who care about their people are immediately conservative makes no sense whatsoever.

>>2635039
>Your first mistake. Thinking these "liberal" jews even have rabbis. I lived in an area with a lot of jews and barely any of them knew anything about Judaism or believed in anything. The Haredi will treat jews who aren't religious just as shitty as they treat everyone else.

Oh you have personal experiences? I do too, I've been to plenty of Shabbos' and have attended Jewish Federation of Los Angeles events. All outwardly liberal/SJW Jews who automatically become right-wing fascists when discussing "the Tribe" within four walls.

And these aren't "religious" jews. These are Jews that keep kosher by not eating pork but then will have a "cheat day".

>Not at all. Jews are a non-factor population wise. There are 5 million jews in the US. There are almost 10 times as many African Americans who vote democrat at a way higher rate.

That's the common myth Jews tell to escape accountability.

5 million Jews in the US, but they're more consolidated than any other ethnic group and located primarily in the most influential cities. 2 million in NYC and 1 million in LA.

Voting democrat is not what's important, it's the lobbying, media-influence and civil-rights movements where the jewish community is the most involved.

>Your issue is thinking some jewish journalist really is affecting anything in the world.

A journalist with a million readers is much more powerful than "voting democrat". And it's not "just one", Jewish writers are a clear majority of the writers of all the mainstream publications digital and stamped. The Jewish community is in bed with the mainstream status-quo.

>Literally look at anybody in the middle east, Saudi Arabia, Iran, wherever that was locked up for being too liberal. They all still had pride in their Persian/Saudi roots.

I doubt gay bloggers in Iran go to the mosque and pray to mecca after they write an article advocating gay marriage.

>to fight for equality or be a liberal
fight for equality =/ liberal

>>2633285
Because it is an ethnosupremist cult that actively tries to exploit non members wherever they migrate to? It is not really that hard to grasp, google some Talmud quotes.

They have a different religion and only mingle among themselves. That makes them a suitable target for hate.

>>2635127
>ethnosupremist
Not really.
>cult
Not considered a cult.
>exploit non members
Citation needed
>google some Talmud quotes.
Talmud quotes that are put on white supremacist sites are fake and can not be found in actual editions and versions of the Talmud.

>>2633306
This except, Jews, like the Chinese, have the skill to stop being middlemen minorities and simply control the states they're in by controlling money or what counts as it, like Joseph's control of granaries in Egypt

>>2635174

The Jews' biggest weakness today is that they have a state now.

>>2633549
German here
Protestantism was mainly spread in Prussian occupied regions. It only really took over East and North Germany where Prussian influence was strong enough. South Germany is pure Catholic and in West Germany, Catholics remain the majority. And I can assure you that they are not Germanicized Italo-Celts

>>2633285
Because they are a very visible minority that self segregated. So people interpret it as being aloof while having no power.

And that is before you bring in the mutual hate or stuff where Jews are believed to be cheats.

>>2633285
Because they are assholes with a inferiority complex so huge they literally build a religion around looking down on their neighbours as inferiors. Said neighbours didn't appreciate this arrogant jackassery and fucked them up for it.
End of the story.

>>2635318
Muslims and Christians do the same thing though, and it's not a justification for murdering them and throwing them in ghettoes

>>2635099
Lmao at all this ressentiment. When will anti-Semites finally admit that their ideology stems from jealousy?

>>2634689
>waaah stop being more successful than me
Clearly you don't understand the concept of ressentiment

>>2635328
Lol so you admit Jews are two-faced

>>2634989
They don't though, most of those Jews are atheists who just happen to have Jewish blood.
>>2635343
Not anymore "two-faced" than any other large heterogenous group of people.

>>2633285
The real reason for the persecution is that Judaism is a cult of victimhood, so throughout history they obsess over being victims and anti-semitism and intentionally provoke the host population to subjugate them in order to feed their need to be victims and to fulfill their "destiny".

>>2635364
>it's the Jews fault, they WANT to be regularly slaughtered and persecuted
Uh huh

>>2635366
Jewish self-deprecation humor is famous, Jews invented cuckoholdery. Jews are a nation of masochists

>>2635366
Can you prove him wrong?

Jews do seem to talk about Jews more than anyone else. And they seem to hate themselves and enjoy victimhood. Not many jewish "warriors" out there

>>2635375
That's because traditional Jewish society is a matriarchy.

>>2634703
2Turk4me

>>2635099
>they're in bed with the status quo so they involve themselves in civil rights groups that go against the status quo
Really makes you think

>>2635370
Source
>>2635392
Source

>>2635364
The victimhood thing might be more early, and is honestly tiring
the six gorrillion might be a meme but it's really annoying how far they have taken the Holocaust

>>2633306
This, jews used to function as an interpreter /middlemen class. They were actually quite crucial in managing the trading of slaves in the 476-800 period. Most christfags would capture other christians, pagans or pseudo-gnostics but didn't want to sully their own hands by dealing with heathens (read muslims) so they entrusted that task to the middleman "ethnic" class that was european jewry.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_medieval_Europe

And then we pretended we dindu nuffin as usual and that it was all da joos fault. It was easy and common to blame outsiders in the antiquity/dark ages for bringing woes like war or plagues, and since jews were easily distinctive traders and middlemen, they became top tier scapegoats. Christian memes like blood libel made it easily justifiable to the yuroplebs.

>see that merchant kike?
>he brought in that plague that ruined our harvest last summer
>but not only that
>HIS ANCESTORS KILLED MUH BABY JESUS REEEEEE
>pls dont blame my poor management and focus on him kthxbai
literally pogroms in a nutshell

>>2634980
>it's still one millionth of the amount of crucifixions and murders done in the name of Christianity and Islam.
False and retarded statement. Christians didn't crucify anyone.

>>2633610
>>2633605
The popes literally urged Jews to give up and money lending and take up farm work. They weren't "banned" from doing so and saying they were is 100% bullshit.

>>2633285
>>2633301
this. jews have always considered themselves ethnically jewish instead of belonging to whatever state they are in.

>>2633326
this is well-written bait. nice

>>2635656
>popes say one thing
>kings say another
IT'S DA JOOS FAULT

Also why would jews even listen to the pope lmao, they listened to the royalty who actually held the real power

They got all the high financial positions of power and then once the debt of the country got raised or reach an economical slump, the Jews for blamed and kicked out

>>2633382
Yes, but coupled with the Jews historically acting as a seperate nation inside a state, it's more likely to piss people off.

If you're in France, it follows that the Frenchmen will think they're the best in the world. It will piss those Frenchmen off if a Jew suddenly stands up and says "Actually, I'm the best in the world, not the French!"

I have no problem with Jews in Israel acting like they're King Shit because, as you say, everyone does that.

>>2635327
>Muslims and Christians do the same thing though
No they don't and for the mindset of humanity for most of history far less reasons than just being insufferable assholes is good enough for doing these things.

Simple fact is that every single culture and civilisation jews came into contact with came to utterly despise them, the coimmon factor here is nothing but the jews themselves.

>>2633605
My thanks for your answer.

Could you comment on Islamic treatment of Jews? Its reasons and so on?

Jews were, and are, racist moneylenders, who rejected logos (λόγος) and logos made flesh (Christ). This makes Jews in conflict with the West in practice and in principle.

>>2635701
>They got all the high financial positions of power
Was never a thing outside of europe, and even in europe it was a lot rare than pop culture history would try to convince you.

>>2635806
Being an insufferable asshole isn't justification for killing people, especially when Jews do not hurt their host countries in any way. All religious people are "holier than thou" (by definition), and all people are tribal to some extent. Christians were and are just as exclusionary as Jews.

>>2634819
>it had nothing to do with our behavior though!

It has plenty to do with their behavior, but not necessarily in a "muh scheming jews" /pol/-tier way. They kept their own customs and generally formed tightly knit communities. Jews have historically been very good at looking out for other Jews ahead of other members of their community (if you can call them that, since Jews generally formed their own communities either by their own will or by necessity). It shouldn't come as a surprise when these groups are viewed with suspicion by outsiders.

>>2635815
>Being an insufferable asshole isn't justification for killing people
What are you even arguing here? Clearly it was, people kill people for far less reasons than that. You are trying to argue against historical fact, people kill people for being assholes all the time.

>>2635815
>All religious people are "holier than thou" (by definition)
Nah, thats near exclusively a monotheism thing. Even the Zoroastrians who practically invented our modern concept of moral good didn't do that.

>Christians were and are just as exclusionary as Jews.
I'm sorry but thats ludicrous nonsense, the entire POINT of christianity as a reformed form of judaism is that it rejected the notion of a chosen people and made salvation available to everyone. While judaism is and has always been exclusive to other people.

>>2633285
Usurers and money-workers are cunts in general, foreskin or not.

>>2635184
So do the Chinese. If you look at SEA, most of the rich motherfuckers are Chinese. Same thing will happen in their Canada, Australian, and African expansions. Jews own America and Europe in a similar fashion

>>2635815
>All religious people are "holier than thou" (by definition)
The fact that polytheistic people (so, most people for most of history) constantly equated their own deities to other peoples deities and even often worshipped them when in different places (to adress the local god) this is provably wrong.
In times of conflict there was a sense of "our god against their god" sure, but thats completly different from "their god isn't real" (which, btw, is why most people in most of history despised jews, because they were saying shit like that).
European hatred of jews is mostly a tradition inherited from the romans.

>>2633489
Thats because America is a toxic waste dump

>>2633285
Because God has told us from the dawn of time we would be prosecuted (talking about his people, not just Jews)

>t. Christain.

When you have people thats as stupid and cocky as the jews, people are bound to hate them. And they do it on purpose, too, which is worse.

>>2635903
>prosecuted
That too, but i meant
>persecuted

>>2635500

To be considered Jewish by Jewish law your mother needs to be Jewish. Also women are more alpha in Jewish societies, Jewish men traditionally are betas and Jews have no warrior traditions or masculine ethos

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>>2633482
>the "jews wouldn't assimilate" meme
That's probably because the status quo of jews literally kept changing all the time from one ruler to the next, from one kingdom to another, etc. Feudalism and the constant warring and swapping of territories probably did not help with giving the jews a stable position in European society.

A great example is the Sicut Judais papal edict, protecting all jews and their activities, aiming to prevent persecution and forced conversion in 1120.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicut_Judaeis

Then only less than a century later, Pope Innocent III passed the "Etsi non displiceat" papal bull, encouraging temporal rulers (kings) to put a stop to jewish usury, trading, "customs and arrogrance". Calling them a "grand mal" or a immense evil.

Then you have the Golden Bull of 1222, where in Hungary all jews were prevented from holding public office, seeking to end the money-lending jewish monopoly and give those functions to the aristocracy instead.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Bull_of_1222

Then you have the Siete Partidas in Spain where jews were forced to wear specific garments to be made identifiable by the rest of the populace among other things.
https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/source/jews-sietepart.asp

Or in France under Louis The Fair, welcoming the jews back again due to some economic troubles the country was experiencing but only promising them a stay of 12 years and limited to the quarters/boroughs they used to occupy under Louis IX when they were last kicked out.

The more you dig the more examples like these you find. And then people act surprised jews developed a succinct international identity as a result of being fucked over for centuries on end.

>>2635821
>I'm sorry but thats ludicrous nonsense

no it's not. pick up a book. Christians killed Muslims, Pagans, Jews and whoever else wouldn't accept christ at certain points. They would crucify other Christians on the cross for blasphemy and trying to translate the bible. Jews didn't do this shit in medieval Europe, so to say Jews are more "exclusionary" is some stupid shit.

>it rejected the notion of a chosen people and made salvation available to everyone

No it didn't. It still holds the belief that Jesus (a jew) was chosen.

The Christians have even more of a chosen people complex then the jews do. They added the most immoral teaching that's in Islam and Christianity which is all non-Christians/Muslims will burn in hell for eternity. The jews never said that. The jews didn't teach their kids if they renounce "christ" they will burn in hell fire forever

I believe that the "hell" concept alone trumps whatever "chosen people" complex because it's actually an evil immoral belief that Christians try to advertise as humility.

>>2633285
an ideology that teaches you that you're above everyone else and everyone else is an animal and in turn makes you behave as such is bound to gather resentment and hate

>>2637129
>an ideology that teaches you that you're above everyone else and everyone else is an animal and in turn makes you behave as such is bound to gather resentment and hate

where does it teach you that?

It's like saying Christianity is an ideology that wants you to worship a human sacrifice while condemning all who don't to eternal hell fire.

>>2635099
You're a loser mate. I couldn't imagine being so obsessed with jews lmao.

Please do us all a favor and kill yourself

>>2637148
read about the concept of goyim

>>2635656
>The popes literally urged Jews to give up and money lending and take up farm work. They weren't "banned" from doing so and saying they were is 100% bullshit.

This is hilarious.
>pope says one thing
>kings with power say EXACT opposite

some how this is all the joos fault huh?

>>2637167
>read about the concept of goyim

Get off /pol/. Goy is a yiddish word. I don't care that you read a line in the Talmud that offends you so you think you know what you are talking about. I guarantee you haven't read the full Talmud. It's like jews claiming there is "anti-semitism" in Islam and Christianity. You can cherry pick a line but it doesn't make you correct in anyway.

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>>2637183
but anon
if i can't form an opinion from a religion's holy book
how am i supposed to form it then
fuck no Islam isn't anti semetic
it is however anti Jewish and anti christian
however puts them in a higher state then infidels

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>>2637193
>if i can't form an opinion from a religion's holy book
>how am i supposed to form it then

because you're not actually forming it based off of a holy book. the Talmud is something most religious jews read, but not even a good percentage of jews know what's in it.

people spend 10 years of their lives reading the Talmud, to cherry-pick lines most jews don't know about or concepts that aren't even present in Judaism is ridiculous.

>>2635656
top kek

Remember when we used to burn witches? You can draw a bunch of circles around the Vatican and you'll be able to fairly accurate separate how intensely people killed witches depending on how far from the centre they are. It went from the pope saying that "ok if you have absolutely undeniable proof of it then go ahead and kill the witch" to "a kid said it".

>>2635644
>False and retarded statement. Christians didn't crucify anyone.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Look at the Martyrs who got burned on a cross for trying to translate the bible to English from original Hebrew/Greek. Saying that Christians never crucified anyone is hilarious, unless you think most of the kings and queens in Medieval europe weren't Christian? The ones getting martyred were Christian, but the ones also burning them at the stake were Christians as well

>>2634826
>posting literal recycled Nazi propaganda and medieval horror stories

>>2635375
Look up the Jewish partisans.

>>2637167
"Goy" literally means "Gentile" in Hebrew and Yiddish. There's no negative connotation.

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>>2633285
The Jews know inside without hatred there's no existence for them.

>>2633306
It's more like that minorities which are discriminated against don't have much moral qualms about operating for getting what they want by non kosher means disregarding moral laws which they see themselves outside of.

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>>2635809
>Could you comment on Islamic treatment of Jews? Its reasons and so on?

Well Islam at it's inception was not good for jews at all. A lot of jewish poets like Abu Afak were killed for opposing Muhammad with poetry. Also Medina was originally a jewish settlement called Yathrib. However this changed, a lot of jews preferred to live under Islamic rule rather than Christian rule because massacres/pogroms were very rare. They weren't necessarily equal citizens, but a lot of jews preferred to be dhimmi and pay the Jizya for their safety then risk being in Europe.
There were times, like when Jews were expelled from the Iberian Peninsula where they were invited to stay at the Ottoman Empire which was rare those days. However in some places like Morocco, at times Jews were still forced to live in a mellah which was their version of the jewish corner/ghetto.

Another interesting thing is the yellow star, the Juden star that Jews had to wear under Nazi rule was actually an Islamic invention. In 1656, all Jews were expelled from Isfahan and forced to convert to Islam because of a common belief that their Jewishness was impure. In 1839 a mob burst into the Jewish Quarter of Meshed, burned the synagogue and destroyed the Torah scrolls. There were other instances like this where Jews were forced to convert and had all their books burned.

The Yemenite jews also saw hardship while under Zaydi rule. They were considered to be impure, and therefore forbidden to touch a Muslim or a Muslim's food. They couldn't build houses higher than a Muslim's or ride a camel or horse, and when riding on a mule or a donkey, they had to sit sideways. Upon entering the Muslim quarter a Jew had to take off his foot-gear and walk barefoot. If attacked with stones or fists by Islamic youth, a Jew was not allowed to defend himself. Basically jews lived in humiliation but a lot of them would prefer that and being atleast somewhat safe compared to the instability in Medieval Europe.

>>2635370
>Jews invented cuckoholdery

Shakespeare was a jew?

>>2633605
If they were so smart why didnt they make their own country???

>>2637060
Except the conception of "hell" isn't not a christian invention in the slightest.

It's found in Greek/Roman mythology (Tartarus); in zoroastrianism (Drujo Demna); in the Sumerian/Babylonian mythos (a nameless dull netherworld where mankind is covered in feathers and eat mud - there is no positive afterlife); Egyptian mythos (being digested for eternity in the belly of Ammit); in Judaism (Sheol - but the afterlife doctrine keeps changing from one age to the next with them).

The only difference really is that the christians were particularly efficient proselytizers and therefore spread their memes much better than all the others. I don't totally disagree with your post, just wanted to make my point about the afterlife.

>>2637391
>literate =/= smart

They were just very religious, so they had to be literate to study their books.

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>>2637391
>Except the conception of "hell" isn't not a christian invention in the slightest.

That's a fair point, it has existed forever. However you can say jews didn't invent the "chosen people" thing either. It's a reoccurring theme that exists in a lot of religion. My point is you're making it seem like Judaism is just a bunch of dudes who think any non-jews are filthy animals and suddenly Christianity stopped all that. My point was some of the parts Christianity added to Judaism (such as hell) are just as evil and cruel as some say the whole "god's chosen people" thing is.

In my opinion, saying all non-believers will burn in hell is just as conceited as saying you are god's chosen people. They both are absurd notions that for one to ridicule the other is pretty hypocritical

>>2633605
Is /his/ the real redpill?

>>2637863
Haha

>>2635819
That's exactly /pol/-tier though. You're explicitly saying that jews look out for other jews at the expense of the general public, whereas the general public (at least for white people) prides themselves on being fair to people of all backgrounds. Furthermore, should the jews ever become affluent (which they have a tendency to do), then it's like an elite, insular ruling class ethnic minority ruling over the majority. History has shown us that the general public never takes that well. The only reason why it even works now is because jews look like white people, and disguise themselves as such when it's convenient. If all jews were purple then the plebs would see who is oppressing them.

>>2638644
Literally They Live

>>2634812
There is plenty of Ethno-Masochism in Israel, all of their big cities like Tel Aviv are full of liberal no-borders Palestine sympathizers. Their wall is covered in pro-Arab grafitti. Read their newspapers sometime, particularly Haaretz. You all act like Israel is some bastion of traditionalism when the progressivism that plagues the west is just as deeply rooted over there.

/pol/ seems to think every open borders Jew doesn't believe in the same principal for Israel and they are dead wrong. Read Haaretz you fags, they are serious about their self-hatred and have so much of it they want to share it with the west. Actually read Marx sometime:

>What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.…. Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man – and turns them into commodities…. The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange…. The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general.

>>2638753
that's not really an argument against pol. if anything you're just supporting pol's opinion that the jews need to go, because you're just adding more evidence that the jews are bad.

>>2638766
/pol/ is wrong in thinking Jews are a hivemind that plots to destroy the world and establish greater Israel. Of course Jews have a history of usury, everyone knows this, I do not provide /pol/ with significant aid for stating something that is as simple as "stereotypes exist for a reason".

>>2638644
>You're explicitly saying that jews look out for other jews at the expense of the general public, whereas the general public (at least for white people) prides themselves on being fair to people of all backgrounds.

exactly this is what's so ridiculous about it. if anything they leeched off of the jews for their own gain. everywhere the jews went where they were treated equal the problems didn't arise. Jews have been in India for 2,000 years and had no issues with anti-semitism or any of this until the british came.

>>2638507
It's where /pol/ dreams go to die

>>2637227
>Saying that Christians never crucified anyone is hilarious
Christians really did not practice crucifixion. Give me a single example.

Think about it for a second, why would christians ever execute a heathen/pagan/heretic by mimicking the act in which their savior died sacrificing his life to save them from their sins and deliver upon them eternal salvation, before finally ascending to heaven to sit to the right of the heavenly father? That would be (a) sacrilegious and (b) almost an honor in a weird fucked up kind of way.

>Look at the Martyrs who got burned
Oh yeah, christians burnt the living shit out of their enemies. No question about that.
>on a cross
That was a stake on top of a wooden pyre. Not a cross. Unless every vertical piece of lumber counts as a cross now.

>>2638818
huh?

>>2638789
>I do not provide /pol/ with significant aid for stating something that is as simple as "stereotypes exist for a reason".

But you just did

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>>2638894
>Think about it for a second, why would christians ever execute a heathen/pagan/heretic by mimicking the act in which their savior died sacrificing his life to save them from their sins and deliver upon them eternal salvation, before finally ascending to heaven to sit to the right of the heavenly father?

I see your point, there is a difference between a stake and a cross. I still think there isn't much of a difference especially considering the religious belief that your soul dissipates when burnt.

just look at this guy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Rogers_(Bible_editor_and_martyr)

he was burnt at the stake for trying to translate the bible into English.

>>2638896
>be king
>ban christians from moneylending cuz unholy
>now only the jews are moneylenders
>most jews are poor tailors/scribes
>however, every moneylender is a jew
>wait till you owe the jews too much money
>seize the property of every jew whether they are a money lender or not
>expel them all, take their money, burn their books, etc.
>rinse and repeat

to me this is them leeching off jews, not the other way around.

>>2638971
Then why don't they just make their own society?

>>2638971
>to me this is them leeching off jews, not the other way around
so everybody today is leeching off banks?

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>>2638990
Damn you really dropped a redpill on him bro! Keep up it man we gotta keep dropping truth bombs on these normies.

>>2638990
They did, the Arabs keep bombing it.

>>2638899
ok so I'll elaborate because you ignored the rest of my post

/pol/ users regularly assert 2 similiar ideas: One, that the Jews who propose relaxed immigration laws in the west and cultural marxism are in cahoots with the Zionists of Israel. The second idea is the diet version of the same line of thinking, some /pol/ users believe that their some double standard in the open borders crowd in regards to Israel. I am only claiming that these two groups are exclusive, and the former has no real obligation to Israel's sovereignty (see: Haaretz).

I believe that the open borders policies that are so often espoused in Jewish groups is not the result of some malevolent scheme, but rather a tendency in Jewish communities towards self-harming altruism that is reactionary to their own opinions of themselves as being greedy and self-absorbed. However there are millions of Jews out there who just want to grow up to be accountants and actors who have no interest in politics at all, and /pol/ should leave them alone. If saying that makes you think I am carrying water for /pol/ I don't care

>>2639009
>so everybody today is leeching off banks?

I hope this is a joke. I'd love to see you even explain how a direct comparison can be made.

Funny thing is if we were expelling bankers, seizing their property every time we owed them money, yes we would be leeching off of bankers. It would be stupid to say we wouldn't be leeching if that was the case

>>2633285
They had a distinct cultural identity and refused to integrate. This they were an easy scapegoat.

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>>2639054
>banks have essentially enslaved us
>that means we're leeching off them

>>2639047
>their some double standard
there is a double standard*

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>>2639047
>/pol/ users regularly assert 2 similiar ideas

fascinating but will you substantiate this strawman?

>>2633487
They weren't so much antisemites as anti-everyone.

>>2639061
do you know how to read. I said if we WERE doing what they to the jews, we would be leeching.

however we do none of these things, so your comparison was autistic. please re-read everything I said I can't tell if i'm being trolled.

>>2639068
(((nigga are you serious this is has been the hottest meme for like two years now)))

>>2639074
what they did*

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>Jews keep getting repeatedly smacked
That's the only way to get rid of a pest.
>prejudice and discrimination
The side effect of having dual consciousness
I mean look at this thread, On one side you have men giving reasons why the JQ does matter. but on the other side you always get the counter argument of #NotAllJews.
It still amazes me that even with the internet, our (((higher education system))) stays away from the JQ.

>>2639125
reported. this isn't an argument.

I always find it amusing how white people like to blame jews for the actions of every jew, however they cry if I were to tell them Jim Crow was their fault. If I blame them for the KKK, they cry. If I blame them for colonization, they cry.

How do they even reconcile with this? I've never seen a stormfag even address this hypocrisy.

>>2638957
>I still think there isn't much of a difference especially considering the religious belief that your soul dissipates when burnt.
Not trying to be a dick but you are kinda clutching at straws here. Being burnt at the stake is not a crucifixion, period. One is death by flames, the other by drawn out asphyxiation of the lung and exhaustion. And as i said, there are all the religious implications of the act itself.

>just look at this guy
Who was burnt at the stake. A sympathetic illustration a posteriori doesn't change that. I fully concur that christians had barbaric methods of dealings with those they deemed heretical and clearly went OTT. But your originals statement was that christians did practice crucifixion, which they don't.

The only case I find are in the phillipines, where christians do it to themselves in an attempt to connect with Jesus or share his burden or some other stupid shit. And even that the mainstream churches find inappropriate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion_in_the_Philippines

The only people in history who practiced crucificion on a large scale were the romans and the muslims later on. Apparently the japs too for some reason if wiki is to be believed.

>>2639156
Simple.

Whites stopped doing those things. America only had slavery for 82 years after all. Pretty much one generation.

And we never hear the end of it.

>>2639180
Sorry, 86 years. It's late

>>2639180
Whites were the only civilization in history to fight a massive fucking war amongst THEMSELVES to abolish slavery.

>>2639199
Which is exactly why we would appreciate that being more the point.

In 2017 on a social level we might as well have never ended it.

>>2639180
>America only had slavery for 82 years after all

1865-1620 = 82?

Your math is wrong. Slavery existed for 245 years in America. Considering 2017-1865 is 152, slavery has existed longer than it's been abolished.

My point wasn't how long it lasted but how hypocritical it is to blame jews for what other jews do, but not take the blame for what other whites do. If killing jesus is every jews fault, then colonization is every whites fault and they all are to blame for it.

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>>2639205
Excuse me sir, America became a thing in 1776.

You can blame everything prior to this on the British.

>>2639205
Also, colonization was objectively the best thing to happen to those populations

When confronted with a barbaric world Whites brought much needed civilization.

>>2639165
I specifically said they weren't the same thing. To act like one is much better than the other is clutching at straws too.

>The only case I find are in the phillipines, where christians do it to themselves in an attempt to connect with Jesus or share his burden or some other stupid shit. And even that the mainstream churches find inappropriate.

shit that's pretty interesting.

>>2633285
Because they insist on remaining Jewish first inside whatever political entity they're in and this inevitably creates conflict. They also had a toxic relationship with Europe in particular where we have a mismatch in ethical prohibitions and have tended to ban them from approved work, so they end up doing jobs we see as dirty. They also have a fat IQ (115 av for Ashkenazim, with particular skill in analytics and even more so language) so they tend to outcompete the goyim and end up climbing the ladder in whatever career they're into (particularly abstract work which has flourished in modernity). Then they've gotten mixed up in subversive movements like communism because of their willingness to accept things on the basis of Talmudic circularity rather than the Faustian scientific will, because they don't have loyalty to outside nations and probably because communism is good for reducing pogroms. The Jew is great at abstraction, rhetoric, doesn't care about scientific truth but rather social truth, and is loyal to his people over the goyim, that's all a recipe for conflict with more grounded, less cosmopolitan groups. Think of them as 125 verbal iq Gypsies and you'll get a sense of people's annoyance.

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>>2639156
>however they cry
We don't cry, we give evidence on how we stopped it and why we had it in operation in the first place.

I can flip your argument around and put the Holocaust in the blanks for Jim crow, colonization, and the KKK. And put how the chosen tribe still uses white guilt against us.

>>2639267
>tfw there are secular atheist Europeans LARPing as jews
>tfw no one calls them out on this horse shit

The jewish identify is a red herring

>>2639267
Also their measures to combat "anti-Semitism" are fucking annoying. They demonstrate a lack of respect for the surrounding culture by seeking to shift its norms in a pro-Jewish direction. Use of dirty tricks and lying when it comes to an enemy (see Ricky Spence's mother being extorted by a kike), the ADL's ever expanding list of hate symbols which includes maybe 1/5 of whole numbers under 100. The endless whining from Greatest Ally about how anti-Semitic it is not to give more shekels and ignore more of the ethnonationalist human rights abuses Israel indulges in.

>>2639125
The majority of Jews killed in the Holocaust were in Poland, Romania, Hungary, and the Soviet Union.

>>2639278
Elaborate

>>2639272
>I can flip your argument around and put the Holocaust in the blanks for Jim crow, colonization, and the KKK. And put how the chosen tribe still uses white guilt against us.

This isn't a good argument. ALL I said was be consistent. If you are gonna blame jews for the actions of other jews, then you are guilty for the actions of other whites. If a jew blames you for the actions of other whites, then they have no right to not take blame for the action of other jews.

Deflecting to "oh but da joos blame us for da holocaust" isn't a good argument whatsoever. It's just a deflection from the hypocrisy at hand. I don't care if you blame every jew for the actions of the bolsheviks, I only care if you say you aren't to blame for the actions of a KKK member.

>>2639074
oh thats alright then they own us but we're leeching off of them lol

>>2639289
Herschel created the concept of 'secular judaism' in order to widen his net of followers for Zionism. It's a completely modern phenomenon and Abraham and King David are doing barrel rolls in their graves right now.

All those centuries and all that tradition erased because today there is no objective membership qualifications to identify as 'jewish'.

>haha rofl my atheist parents told me I was jewish because they parents told them they were jewish

It's a laugh. Even genetic studies if the European Askenazi shows no matrilineal line but a merely patrilineal genetic line.

Thereby invalidating their identity as jews.

>>2639312
>oh thats alright then they own us but we're leeching off of them lol

Why can't these /pol/ colonizers form cohesive sentences?

>>2639241
>To act like one is much better than the other is clutching at straws too.
I literally never said that. I just don't see the point of pretending christians did things that they did not. It's not like there is a shortlist of atrocities they haven't committed.

>>2639319
Lel no one in the world talks about pol as much as /his/

And the boogeymen are behind every shadow

>>2639315
>It's a laugh. Even genetic studies if the European Askenazi shows no matrilineal line but a merely patrilineal genetic line.
>Thereby invalidating their identity as jews.

This makes no sense whatsoever. I thought the original Ashkenazi women were pagan women who converted? Abraham was a fucking pagan originally, just because the first women converted to Judaism doesn't make their kids "not" jews.

>>2639331
Plus doesn't the bible say that it goes from the father to the son? The jews switched it to "suddenly now it's the mother that matters" out of nowhere

>>2639326
it's because now every thread is filled with "Oh the jews did that" "Was slavery really so bad?" "Colonists dindu nuffin negros should be thanking them" it's annoying.

>>2639343
Kek would you like to build a Wall to protect your lands from unwanted immigrants?

Fucking intolerant and hateful bigoted Left. They just can't accept people who have different cultures.

>>2639343
>Colonists dindu nuffin
That much is true tho, we wuz gud bois, turning our mercantilism around n shiet

>>2633482
>They refused to assimilate
They wanted to assimilate during the post-Enlightenment period, right until some guy started the "jews among us" bullshit, and then it is finally finished as the dream of assimilation (in Europe) died because of the Nazis. For fuck's sake, that shitty composer guy (Webern, IIRC) bought the Nazi narrative of national awakening and shit like that. In post-WWII, jews were more sympathetic to Zionism and of course this led to the creation of the state of Israel.

>inb4 jews are commie terrorist bombers
Literally nothing wrong with that.

>>2639354
>this led to the creation of the state of Israel
The creation of an jewish state was well under way well before ww2 and the lolocaust t b h. But it's definitely true it had a massive impact on how many started do the aliyah and how later things turned out. Can't say I blame them.

>>2637220
During the Middle Ages, they literally said that witches are impossible to exist because it's unnatural.

>>2639351
>Indians have no concept of private property
>get butthurt when white takes their land and brings them medicine and agriculture
>electricity
>fukken white man gtfo REEEEEEEEE

>>2639350
I'm actually a conservative. I find identity politics of all kinds to be absurd. /pol/ has the worst kind of identity politics

>>2639367
Pol was simply a social response to progressive liberalism gone wild.

>white men are the ultimate evil in society

Fine then we shall create our own.

>that's deplorable!!!!!!!!!!!
>FUCKING WHITE MEN STAY ON YOUR KNEES!!!!!!

>>2639354
>bought the Nazi narrative of national awakening and shit like that. In post-WWII, jews were more sympathetic to Zionism and of course this led to the creation of the state of Israel.

yeah I was reading about the foundations of it, it was interesting how the jews didn't really want it at first. you had these people saying "we need to get the fuck out of here, they don't want us to assimilate" and most jews were like nah we're fine. then everything the early Zionists said would happen did. the pogroms happened and jews realized the Zionists weren't wrong. if the massacres hadn't happened and the Zionists weren't proven right Israel probably wouldn't exist.

>>2639373
>Pol was simply a social response to progressive liberalism gone wild.
>white men are the ultimate evil in society

then they replaced it with

>jews are the ultimate evil in society

This is the hypocrisy I hate. They sound like SJWs half the time and make the same arguments college feminists do about white males about jews.

>>2639379
Well it was mostly Jews behind the anti-white narrative.

Arguably this was a response to cultural anti-semitism which was a response to jewish hate of Christ.

And around it goes.

>>2639387
>da joos started it
Have you even read the thread? That argument got btfo repeatedly

>>2639387
>anti-white narrative

Yeah it must be so difficult to see the occasional article from some Goldstein hating on whitey. I can't imagine the pain and suffering you've been through.

>>2639399
They did start it.

At Jericho. If you want to be part of an insular society which sees all other humans as less than you get what you get.

Either dig in or hang up the yarmulke desu

>>2639401
Yeah it must be so difficult to see the occasional thread from some goyim hating on Schlomo. I can't imagine the pain and suffering you've been through.

>>2639409
>They did start it.

>DEY HATED CHRIST, DEYYY STARTEDD IT!!
>DA JOOS HATED CHRIST WHICH LED TO US HATING DEM SO DEY STARTED IT

listen to yourself

>>2639415
I'm not jewish so it doesn't. You're the one complaining about the "anti-white narrative" that's overwhelming society right now. I was just empathizing. I'm turkish so I have no idea what it's like to live in the anti-white society we are living in.

>>2639418
A man came into the world talking about peace and brotherly love. Sharing what you have and non-violence. Preaching against greed and hording of wealth.

The jews hated this concept.

>>2639422
>A man came into the world talking about peace and brotherly love. Sharing what you have and non-violence. Preaching against greed and hording of wealth.
>The jews hated this concept.

I like how you left out the whole "condemning non-believers to eternal hell fire" part.

>>2639431
>Look at these evil jews, thinking they are special/chosen and whatnot
>ALL WHO DON'T ACCEPT CHRIST AS YOUR SAVIOR WILL BURN IN HELL FOREVER

>>2639375
>if the massacres hadn't happened and the Zionists weren't proven right Israel probably wouldn't exist.
Yes that is very fucking cohencidental don't you think? You have an ethnic group great at propaganda in the highest echelons of the victors of the war that got their way

>>2639431
Heaven and Hell are staples of the OT So that part was taken directly from Jewish theology

>>2639443
I'm not talking about WWII i'm talking about the 1880's when the pogroms happened. That's when the Zionists were proven right, not the Holocaust. Israel would have happened even if it hadn't happened. They might have gotten less land, but they had already made a presence in Palestine

>>2639422
Was it really about brotherly love or the fact jews were conflicted about the moshiach doctrine at this point in their history and simply did not recognise his claim? It's not like he was the first or last messiah they rejected.

Also if you hate jews for having a role in his death, why don't you also hate the romans for finding him guilty/proceeding with the execution? Was it because hating romans when trying to convert them in Rome was an inconvenient narrative to hold? Whatever the reason, seems a bit hypocritical to me desu

>>2639438
Old Testament writers clearly taught that people who rejected the only true God and the Messiah he promised would experience God’s eternal wrath (Isaiah 66:24; Daniel 12:2).

>>2639448
>Heaven and Hell are staples of the OT So that part was taken directly from Jewish theology

It doesn't change the fact that jews don't believe in hell. They believe in a purgatory and a place to be judged but their is no belief that non-believers will suffer for eternity. They also added the whole trinity thing which makes no sense with Judaic theology. Saying that a man is God also goes against fundamental teachings of Judaism too.

>>2639453
Oh I don't hate jews. But I can surely see why many throughout history went down that road.

Not even a Christian.

>>2639462
Dude they had Sheol and yes it was a permanent place for the dead.

>>2639465
I can also see why too considering the level of papal baiting and how jews were "forced" into (or stuck with) jobs related to money lending, slave trading and general commerce. It's not like the khadanite manifested out of nowhere. They were convenient when the european elite needed them and kicked out when they weren't.

But just because uneducated peasants unironically bought into the muhjoos meme 1500-1000 years ago doesnt mean we should as well.

>>2639482
It also says in Ecclesiastes and Job that that all of the dead go down to Sheol, whether good or evil, rich or poor for 12 months. It's contradictory but my point is I had the concept that if you reject Christ you will burn for eternity etched into my brain as a little kid. It doesn't seem that Judaism teaches of a literal physical hell.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell#Judaism

>>2639484
>jews were "forced" into (or stuck with)

>The exclusion of Jews from many trades and craft guilds began following the First Crusade (1096–1099). The exclusion often came at the urging of clergy and local guild members, state and local governments. Jews were excluded in certain places from certain crafts (excluded by the craft guilds), in certain trades, and - indirectly - agriculture due to bans on land-ownership; these exclusions led Jews of often engage in peddling, second-hand goods, pawnbroking, and moneylending. In Southern Europe, Christian competitors of Jews in several occupations - including the moneylending occupation - asked their country's leaders to expel Jews, in order to reduce competition.

Yes they didn't literally force jews to be moneylenders but when you ban them from occupations common for Christians so they won't be "competition" while banning Christians from moneylending, making it so the only money lenders are jews, you don't get to complain later why there are jewish money lenders.

>>2639508
Usury is an abomination. They knew it thousands of years ago and it holds true today.

>>2639520
so is collective guilt. one of the most immoral philosophical principles anyone has ever came up with.

>>2639527
I can agree to that.

My rule of thumb is to deny guilt for things I never did to people I never met in places I never was.

>>2639287
>Ricky Spence
Who is this "Ricky Spence" you refer to? Is he Ricky Vaughn and Richard Spencer fused together?

>>2639199
and all the other civillizations didnt need to slaughter each other in droves to convince themselves it was wrong

>>2639288
But the *WORLD* Almanac population count for Jews barely changed between 1933 and 1945. Explain that.

>>2639668
not that guy but iirc they predicted the numbers of populations years beforehand so they didn't take into account ww2

itt: jidf

>>2639695
this is the stormfags favorite excuse to being BTFO'd

>>2639702
this is the retards favourite excuse to being called out

>>2639718
>>2639695
Good job bros! We're really out here dropping truth bombs on these fucking plebs. These stupid (((leftists))) aren't ready to hear the truth. Only a stupid fucking liberal idiot could look at a group getting kicked out of 100+ countries and think it's not their fault. What more proof do you need that they are evil if every society has decided to get rid of them. Keep dropping these redpills bro these normies are starting to open up to us

>>2639726
see
>>2639718

>>2639728
What? Are you triggered libcuck? Are you triggered that this thread is full of jewish apologists getting blown the fuck out?

>DA JOOS DINDU NUFFIN
>NOT ALL JOOS DOE

>>2635602

/thread

>>2639047
Israel has plenty of Arabs and Christians. It's not homogeneous at all.

>>2639924
>plenty

14% isn't very diverse. Hell, America has 14% blacks and everyone rages at under-representation

>>2639937
it's 20% Arab, not 14%

74% Jewish, most of them Mizrahi (3.2 million), then Ashkenazi (2.8 million), then Sephardic (1.4 million) then the Ethiopian/Chinese/Indian or whatever else jews. The Mizrahim vote for the Netanyahus because they aren't apologetic about wanting Judea and Samaria. They can make every complaint the Palestinians can. The Ashkenazi (beside the Haredi ones) are just like the secular ones at home and vote for the leftist parties.

>>2639968
*sigh*

The Ashkenazi were a mistake

>>2633318
>Jew religion older than Egyptian
Nigga what?
Also when did Egypt persecute the Jews? And keep I mind that the bible switched Babylon for Egypt

>>2639997
I dated an Ethiopian girl who's family was from Israel and she told me the middle eastern jews for the most part hate the secular Ashkenazi leftists for being too sympathetic with the arabs. It blew my mind because I always pictured it as the opposite. They still vote for an Ashkenazi prime minister every time though.

>>2639968
Bibi did nothing wrong

Dammit, /pol/ and /his/ - you both sound very convincing. Which one of you is telling the truth.

>>2635815
>in any way
Oh my sweet summer child.

>>2638789
Whether they do it deliberately or they can't help themselves, neither makes me want them around. Look at their objective effect on Goyish society and it's generally been bad.

>>2639315
If they see each other as Jews and they tell other groups they're Jews, and people recognise them as Jews, and they come from people who were Jews, I think we can say they're Jews, if only as a functional shorthand.

>>2639379
We are in some sense the snow-niggers.
Just like how most Africans want white domination while denying its existence, most white people want the diversity, want to be ruled by Jews while claiming it doesn't exist.

>>2633285
Mostly used as a source of quick income. >got money problems?
>blame the Jews for whatever is wrong at the moment
>seize their assets, exile them
>profit. Wait. Repeat.

>>2633325
>>2633329
Pasta

>>2633325
delet this

>>2633285
they don't assimilate - they have their own religion and marrying an outsider is forbidden for them.