This is what your ancestors found attractive.

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>>2631800
Nope, pic related is what mine found attractive.

That image could be a symbolic representation of the Divine Mother for all we know.

>>2631800
Like father like son I guess

It's also what I find attractive

THICC

>>2631800

>that hair

Yeah no.

>>2631818
>>2631811
>>2631800
Interesting, the first people were monotheistic, they all adored the Great mother, later the Hebrews founded patriarchy and they substituted it with the "Great father/Sky daddy", then Christians completedthe circle with "The great son", now that the circle is complete patriarchy is slowly collapsing, but what is next?

A return to the matriarchy?

Or what?

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>>2631800

Maybe it was a warning to future generations of the dangers of obesity.

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It's what I find attractive.

>>2631836
>Interesting, the first people were monotheistic, they all adored the Great mother, later the Hebrews founded patriarchy and they substituted it with the "Great father/Sky daddy", then Christians completedthe circle with "The great son", now that the circle is complete patriarchy is slowly collapsing, but what is next?
>A return to the matriarchy?
>Or what?
None of that is true. Also for all intents and purposes the divine the Mother is known as Sophia in the OT is found Catholic and Orthodox Doctrine.

>>2631836
How many layers of irony are you on right now?

>>2631836

Kid, just be patient. You're not that smart. Really, you're not that smart. Just shut your mouth, listen, and then keep your opinions to yourself until you judge that you've seen enough.

PS: You're not that smart.

>>2632143
When have I ever said that I am smart?

>>2631818
That's exactly what it was. All the organs related to childbirth and childcare are exaggerated. Big tits, fat pussy, swollen pregnant belly. All of this to convey maximal fertility.

Literally "milky mummy" tier porn

>>2632143
Kek I triggered a /pol/ tard, lucky me!

Yeah!

Upset that the patriarchy has existed for only 3000 years whereas matriarchy has existed for 100,000+ years?

>>2632146

Look. You're not that smart. Not in an insulting way. But....well...

The brain is just one calculating unit lobbied against a set of "problems". Further hobbling you is a degenerate culture of the senses and a ticking time bomb of material impoverishment and disenfranchisement of most of humanity.

So what was the point? You should be sixty years before having an opinion of the sort. There's no merit for being a premature ejaculator of theorems.

PS: HG tribes usually have very different creation stories based on their local geography, flora and fauna. Tribes in the Amazon might describe some eldritch being, from the swamp chaos prior everyhing, as a creator who gives birth to other gods.

the glorious white race has always fucked in the missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation!

>>2632161
>humans did more in 3000 years than all the other years combined
Really makes me start hypothesizing

>>2632164
>he doesn't know about the lioness and cheesegrater position
atheniangirlslaughing.jpeg

>BBW
>not the most ancient and therefore the most patrician fetish of them all

And, if we consider the Lindy effect, it will be around for tens of thousands of years to come. Our offspring will worship us, friends

>>2632161
Not a /pol/tard but powerful or dominant goddesses doesn't mean the society it belongs to has to be egalitarian or matriarchal. Athena was basically on-par with Zeus in power and influence. Might have been even more relevant when she was just atano Djawaja in the minoean culture and yet those cultures were patriarchal as fuck. Women belonged in the Gynokonitis and that was that.

I don't think we can turn back the clock on this one. Philosophically we're closer to the asexual creator or an absence of it. You could stick to the stereotype of "nature" having female connotations (demeter mystery cults) if you want and go full natura naturans, but it's still a far cry from going back to that archetypal "divine mother" with big milky tits.

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>>2632231
>Minoan culture was patriarchal as fuck

>>2632236
Minoean from cretes you moron

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>>2632250
Yes they were femminist you retard

>>2632261
>boobs equals feminism
>patriarchal cultures never depict women

>>2632261
Goddess worship doesn't mean matriarchy or feminism.
Hinduism is still patriarchal despite Devi's obvious importance. At the beginning of Athenian democracy, where women were probably the worst off, Athena was obviously incredibly important.
Next you'll say Spartans were feminists.

Apparently OP Pic was probably a form of therapy for pregnant ladies. Read a while ago the theory that women who were pregnant used to make clay models of what they thought their bodies were like/how they were changing.
Sort of a way of 'know your body'.

Though I'm pretty sure this is just a bait thread.

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>>2632261
Frescoes are not a valid indicator of women's position in a society. Especially when said frescoes only show them partaking in festivals or drinking around the house. You're subjectively extrapolating whatever YOU want to see. I could just post a picture of the minoan prince and say he was the uberking, that still wouldnt amount to much evidence at all.

We have to go by the culture it shaped and inspired. The myceneans were patriarchal, wannax and all. Then later, if the iliad has any truth to it about the role of women, the same trend carries on. From the archaic period onwards with sparta & athens, women LITERALLY belonged in the oikos. It's fair to assume the patriarchal trend went back all the way.

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>>2631800
What the majority of society finds attractive at any given time does not dictate what an individual living in that society may find attractive.

>>2631800
How do you know it was meant to be attractive?

disgusting cowtits

>>2634039
i understand how you feel man

>>2634039
bougereau pls

>>2631800
Who's to say this wasn't intended to be comedic? This level of obesity was surely unheard of in that era, probably bordering on the absurd.

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>>2634721
Yeah man xDDD, these female idols were basically 99% of the entities represented in statuettes for most of prehistory and were often found in ritual/sacred areas but it was one just one big widespread joke xDDDDDDDDD

I'm so smart! How could no one have thought such a thing before?? xDDD

>>2632353
There's no indicator that the Minoans were patriarchal, they were conquered by the Myceneans 1000 years before classical Athens so comparing the two is extra retared, they were completely different cultures.

>>2633126
Underated.

>>2632286
This is true, the Maya for instance venerated the Moon Goddess, possibly placing her higher than the Sun himself. And in many myths she's more of a protagonist than he is. Kings dressed themselves and their wives as the Moon, and yet their society was still a patriarchal one.

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>>2631800
>>2631851
>random deviant artists like fat girls
>no internet so he has to make his own fap material
>fatties and fat fetishists in the future use your shit to prove everyone liked fatties back in the old days

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>>2634756
>comparing the two is extra retared, they were completely different cultures.
We do not know for sure, Myceneans are suspected to have been either trade partners or vassals of the minoans since they were the dominant nautical power all the way to the Thera eruption in 1450BC. Then the balance of power shifted with the myceneans taking the ascendency. The historians who try to find the kernel of truths hidden in myth suspect the Minotaur myth/theseus legend was a reference to the rebellion of the myceneans against their cretan overlords and their eventual subjugation ( as we know from the Linear A/Linear B tablet)

To say minoans and myceneans are unrelated IS retarded.

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>>2636086
The artist isn't from DA, he studies neolithic culture.

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>>2636317

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>>2636322

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>>2636323

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>>2636325

>>2634754
Shut up fatty

>>2634721
>>2636086
You people are like the anti-evolution fags, deep down the reason why you don't believe they were objects of religious significance is because that makes you uncomfortable.
Tell me about your mother.

>>2634754
>an object with ritual significance of a female has to be attractive
it's pretty obvious it's just a fertility goddess

>>2636358
>>2636391
The two aren't mutually exclusive

>>2636568
they aren't mutually exclusive, it's quite a leap to assume that a figure was seen as attractive just because it's a depiction of a woman

>>2636602
*but it's

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This is what your contemporaries find attractive.

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>>2636606

Supermodels aren't meant to e attractive. This is what our contemporaries find attractive

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>>2636617
That is actually too old and ordinary.

>>2636638
jesus the grass in that picture is giving me a boner

>>2636641
I thought I was the only one. It sure smells sweet. ;)

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>>2636617
I can, and in fact will, fap to the image you just posted.

>>2636651
likewise

>>2636617
MILKY

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>>2636651
>>2636638

It's not loli you fucking idiots, I mean in contemporary western societies the ideal of attractive at the moment is olive skin, black hair, and Mediterranean features

>>2636699
>I mean in contemporary western societies the ideal of attractive at the moment is olive skin, black hair, and Mediterranean features
That's completely subjective, not saying med girls aren't hot but so are scandi girls. In reality, the ultimate criteria is whether a girl makes ur peepee go stiffy

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>>2636699
What are your thoughts on this pic related, anon?

>>2632162
In Germany we have the saying: "Practice makes the master"
Also, there are alot of assumptions on your side, I have to say.
PS: Not the same fag btw.

>>2636617
Is this jailbait or safe to fap?

>>2636699
This shit is being enforced by the media.

>>2636752

but natural prepubescent girls don't have massive, supple asses, wide thick legs and hips, and heavy milky tits

are people who seek prepubescent females even males at all?

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>>2631836
>Great Mother Meme
>Trying to reconstruct religion from old Porn

>>2638619

some day people will reconstruct egyptian religion from furry porn, go figure.

>>2638362
>Enforced
>implying olive skin and black hair is not god tier beauty

No, that was a fertility goddess
Actual attraction towards body types was something more healthy
Too skinny and too fat are both trouble for childbirth

>>2634754
>99% of the entities represented in statuettes for most of prehistory

99% of Venus figurines are found in Europe you idiot.

>>2631800

I mean I find that attractive

It was used for worship not wanking

>>2632152
>That's exactly what it was. All the organs related to childbirth and childcare are exaggerated.

pure conjecture

>>2634754
I mean jokes are just memes anyway and human understanding of comedy was obviously undeveloped. This idol of a fat bitch could have been a real hit, imagine the performer keeps her under a sheet and tells a story about an adventurer returning home after slaying a primordial beast only to here from the townsfolk that his wife has ate the entire villages surplus wheat. He confronts her, at which point the proto-comedian pulls away the sheet to reveal his landwhale of a spouse. Insert some hacky punchline about his fat wife being the real primordial beast and the crowd are falling all over each other. That joke probably killed back then, probably got around like a blues guitar riff did in America.

It's a better assumption than yours anyway, no one wants to fuck a fatty, and something tells me you would know.

>>2639242
How do you know it wasn't both or that the masturbation was not part of a ritual or holy action? Sexuality is part of fertility after all.

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>>2631800

>>2639264
Sure I'll admit that. Still though when it comes to silent cultures (not surprising considering the venus is 30000years old), extrapolation and interpretation are pretty much all we are really left with.

I might be guessing wrong but it's not a coincidence that those are the anatomical attributes the most pronounced on the statuette. There has to be an intended meaning derived from this. Whatever it truly meant is probably forever lost to us though.

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>>2631836
I like to imagine posts like these are made by a handful of genius post-ironic shitposters. The greatest literary minds of our generation disillusioned by the bland state of modern culture, forced to channel their art through bait posting on anime imageboards. They critique the society which alienated them not through satire or parody, but through perfect mimicry. How do you parody a world where people surround themselves with fun house mirrors, distorting reality to fit their comfortable fantasies? Sincere imitation is more cutting than even the most cruel insult, for you force people to see themselves as they are.

These genius shitposters dedicate their prodigious skill to holding a true mirror to the world, revealing how obvious the grotesque absurdity of modern life really is, and the futility of our efforts to delude ourselves otherwise.

The alternative would be to accept that there are people who are truly as abysmally ignorant that they would post something like this seriously. But I choose to believe.

God bless you, beautiful shitposter.

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>>2639464
>tfw ywn be a genius shitposter
>tfw you are stuck with meme arrows
>tfw you must end your post with BTFO

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>>2636699
No it's not. People have different tastes and even the ideal of attractiveness isn't monolithic.

>>2631800
First, we don't know for sure if the culture that made this was a people genetically evident in Europe today.

Second, these Venus figurines are considered by most prehistoric experts as fertility or labour charms. They were made to exact specifications over a period of tens of thousands of years. It's not pornography.

Third, a thicc woman is a fertile woman with lots of milk for her babies. In a hunter-gatherer society that frequently did face starvation it's not just an unreasonable ideal.

>>2632353
Went back all the way to settled agricultural society, anyway.

Most hunter-gatherers (but certainly not all!) have distinct gender roles, but are not especially patriarchal/matriarchal one way or the other. The father more or less helps raise the kid until it's a few years old, and then the couple are free to either find a new partner, or try again. As the 'village raises the child', there's less pressure on the parents alone to do all the care-taking.

The idea of monogamy (or polygamy, for that matter) is a by-product of agricultural settlements.

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>venus meme

>>2641511
>Greece one
>Canova and some other Italian neoclassist artist
>also they all have a at ass except for the portrait of the girl, which wasn't an idealistic beauty but a portrait of a woman

>>2634721
Clearly it wasn't unheard of, because they knew what a thicc woman's curves looked like in all the right spots.

If you were hunting large game, and had a pretty steady supply, it wouldn't be too hard to fatten up one or two women to such proportions.

>>2639311
ancient seinfeld