Is she right?

Yes.

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(((no)))

>>2629920
Unironically yes, collectivism always leads to mass murder and genocide as in the case of socialism, communism, fascism etc.

Libertarian free market capitalism and individualism with limited government is the only way.

>>2629920
What's good for the common isn't always what's good for everyone and trying to create a totalitarian perfect system squashes unpredictable opportunities. Sometimes people find themselves in situations where common sense doesn't apply.

My philosophy teacher despises her for some reason

>>2629940

Probably because of arguing with freshman objectivists all the fucking time.

>>2629940
She isn't even worse than a lot of two bit philosophers, she just gets extra criticism because she is on the right rather than the left

>>2629950
It has more to do that most of her stuff is pretty retarded and the good stuff have been said already by better philosophers.

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>>2629926

>>2629947
kek

Yeah completely right actually and it's why I'm a collectivist

not necessarily. one could argue that e.g. automated communism is the ultimate realization of egoism because it requires no (or little, divided) labor and releases potential that would otherwise have been allocated to working for survival rather than purely because it's what one WANTS to do

>>2631730
muuuuuhhh FALC pipe dreams

stirner was a kook

>>2629920
That quote is right, but overall she was not.

>>2629940

Because Ayn Rand reveals a bitter truth about humanity, that most of us are unexceptional. The truth is that most great accomplishments are done by a very small minority of people. This is why she is one of the most hated authors in academia, because most people want to feel like they matter and contributed to society's great achievements. When really, they did not.

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>>2629920
>Plebs still think you need to be extreme individualist or extreme collectivist to achieve a properly-functioning society
>Plebs still don't realize that a healthy medium between individualism and collectivism is the ideal condition for both human freedom and security
>Ancap plebs ignore the fact that hierarchy and authority in some way, shape, or form are the hallmarks of human society throughout millennia
>Gommie plebs ignore the fact that human nature abhors selflessness for its own sake and the ends do not always justify the means, especially if it means the disenfranchisement of the individual

>>2629926
>libertarian
>capitalism
Lmao capitalism is inherently authoritarian, it's just individualistic authoritarianism.
The liberterian socialist ideaologies are the only liberterian ideaologies.

>>2631877
>spook poster thinks hierarchy is inherent to humanity
>humans began as anarchists before the spooks
Tbqhwu egoist anarchism updated for deep ecology in a mutualist economy is the only way to go. Only a small number of people need to be informed about the deep ecological ego and the rest will follow, mutual cooperation will be more possible with uncertainty rising as resource abundance continues to plummet, that's how cooperation emerges, mutual self interest. The trick is using the pragmatic approach to determine what is in the mutual self interest, also highly connected social networks that remain compartmentalized to avoid authority, like what Marx said about communism happening when infrastructure being sufficent, only without communism, we simply don't have enough resources for a Marxist economy to emerge in the foreseeable future.

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What about this?

>>2632064
Exactly right. My philosophy professors hate me because I defend Randian ideas. One even called ayn rand satan.

>>2631856
If that's the case then why do most objectivists seem to think they are the ones that matter? I've never met a fan of Rand's who think they're a small cog in the machine, they all think they're Howard Fucking Roark, and that their superior intellect makes them better than everyone else.

>>2629920

>Believes staunchly in capitalism
>dies in a Public Hospital

Her death was a beautiful irony

>>2631856
Ah, the "Great Man Theory". When will this meme die?

Objectively, no one is special. Everyone is replaceable. The idea that your own merit can set you apart is retarded.

>>2632064
>Property rights are inviolable
>Except if you do x to them ...

>>2632209
I am an Ayn Rand fanboy but her view of the situation is inaccurate. From the moral perspective neither side were in the right, classical liberal values didn't really exist on the frontier, only in the more stable prosperous cities. From the practical perspective, many native Americans did adopt western technology, however not all had those opportunities and were left at odds with the settlers.

>>2632237
History is driven by great men. The world would have been a completely different place if Napoleon or Hitler or Washington as individuals had not existed or something had interfered in their political/military careers.

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>>2632267
Welcome back to another exciting episode of /his/ amateur hour!

>>2629920

considering how retarded her shit is if she said 2+2=4 id start doubting it

also - all ain rand threads are troll threads

every single one

>>2631856
>This is why she is one of the most hated authors in academia

'academia' mostly dosent register her existence as relevant

the reason people dislike her is because her ideas are inconcise and convoluted and shes a rather bad writer,

>>2632237

Some people are more replaceable than others. The person who designs the blueprints is less replaceable than the person who pounds in the nails.

>>2632237
i imagine this is what mediocre shitters tell themselves to make themselves feel better about their lives

>>2632237

The idea that everyone's merit is exactly equal is even more retarded.

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>>2629920
>Ayn Rand
>Right

>>2629926
This, I would personally like to toss all collectivists out of helicopters

>>2631989
Collectivism is inherently authoritarian

>>2632237
Fuck off commie

>>2629926
You are a child of light. You have good ideals but no idea how things are done...

>>2632237
>the "Great Man Theory"
what >>2631856 says is pretty much the opposite of the "great man theory"

If even the most exceptional people are a product of their environment and just a brush stroke away from mediocrity this means humans are not special snowflakes, it means leftist academics with their pseudointellectual garble are just memeing, it means even Ayn Rand who fled Stalinist Russia and arrived in New York at the height of the roaring 20s is just a leaf floating in water that took a slightly unusual route compared to the rest of the flotsam.

>>2632959
>child of light
Believing a "people's republic" will work in your interest is as naive as believing the free market will fix it.

>how things are done
I know pretty much everything you know about the flaws of capitalism.

>>2632886
Collectivists will toss you out of helicopters because they're more than you and support each other in the belief that it's morally right to do so because you're threatening the collective.

Dumb cunt doesn't realize humans are herd animals and that humans by default are ALWAYS chained to a collective.
Infants are tied to their mothers, who are dependent on the family, whose head is dependent on the village to defend it from hostile outsiders. Most of these groups are not formed voluntarily, a child does not get to choose it's parents, does not get to choose it's birthplace, does not get to choose it's culture. "Follow the herd or die" is not really a choice, and it just so happens that is the only option the vast majority of humanity has been given.
The only independent person is a dead one.
Individualism is also not freedom. Again, humans are herd animals. Even if you want to go live innawoods off the grid in an anarchy primitive lifestyle the very same primitive lifestyle humans evolved in relies on STRONG SOCIAL GROUPS and COOPERATION. And you're not going to get that when you're the only person living innawoods, because everyone else thinks that's crazy and would prefer to live in civilization. The closest to it would be the Amish, and even they are hard pressed to turn back the "clock" in their culture despite deliberately making efforts to do so.

>>2632267
You are a retard.
Historians write about specific leaders because it's far easier to write about a handful of influential people lives and motivations than the literally countless people who all had their personal reasons for even listening to those "great" men or the nuance of the difference in their beliefs and the leaders they follow that are sacrificed for the sake of cooperation.

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>>2629920
Economic "libertarianism" means the subjugation of the individual to capital - sweatshops, child labour, dangerous working conditions, etc. all become permissible as a means to increase profits for the ruling class.

>>2632237
>it's a "theories can exist in a field where using the scientific method is impossible, by definition" episode
& Humanities was a mistake