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Were communist dictatorships an attempt at creating a nation

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Were communist dictatorships an attempt at creating a nation who's rulers were philosophers, whom Plato desired, but failed miserably due to the complexities of modern society?
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>>2623717
>Were communist dictatorships an attempt at creating a nation who's rulers were philosophers
No
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>>2623717
No, not at all. That has nothing to do with socialism. You could argue they thought of themselves as philosophers.
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Marx's vision of communism certainly takes inspiration from the Platonic utopia, as well as being a "materialist" take on both Hegelian idealism and Whig history. Of course, he was also opposed to society having "rulers" per se.

The Leninist take on the "dictatorship of the proletariat" can definitely be tied to the idea of philosopher-kings; the idea that an educated party elite would gradually transition society towards socialism, then communism, before stepping down. We know how that went.
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>>2623717
>Stalin
>Mao
>philosophers
Fucking what. You could only remotely argue this with Lenin or maybe >Luxemburg

Like everyone else was just justifying and rationalizing their lust for power.
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Which leader isn't a philosopher?
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>>2624805
MLM is a philosophy
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>>2624805
Stalin was a good legalist m8
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>>2624805
I was more trying to say that the whole ideology is followed by people who fancy themselves philosophers, but really are barely sophists.
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>>2623717
communism is what happens when you let humanities majors run society instead of economists and scientists
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>>2623717
Closer to philosopher kings was Khomeini's concept of velayat al-faqih ('governance of the jurist') which shaped the Islamic Republic.
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