France

>>2612651
Because 'Germans' have to ruin our borders, instead they blob with their GROSSGERMANIUMS XDDD

>>2612651
Bad leadership.

They tried with the First Republic and then Napoleon but got rekt.

>>2612651
Because the "natural French borders" meme is just as cancerous as the Großdeutschland one.

>>2613177
How's that?

>>2612651
For a very long time, the Rhine was under the HRE. Also France take WW2 tier coalition every war and tend to win(or draw).

>>2613185
>expanding into land that isn't your
>making enemies in the process
>wagging wars and killing many of your own people
>the conquered lands aren't even that vital

>>2612651
Because the one European state stronger than a Unified France on the Continent is a Unified Germany.

>>2613197
So not very similar at all, you meant?

>>2613223
No, I mean identical, France was "the Germany" of the 17th and 18th centuries.

>>2613211
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
>what's the HRE ?
Or:
>be twice as big a country
>lose 2 world wars

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>>2613197
But that Land is ours, Hans

Because they suck

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>""""France""""""
>French

Pick one

>>2613447
>Different dialect
Nothing with having a few dialects, but fear not once we conquer the left bank we will make every G*rmans speak French

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>>2612651
>blond haired

DISGUSTING

>>2613882
Frenchman were large-built, with red beards or blonde hair, until the American media decided to suddenly portray them as gaunt Corsicans or oily-haired Algerians fuccbois, and the women as dark-haired beatniks, exclusively.That must be the most annoying shit in the world, for someone to suddenly decide you're a completely different ethnicity, and, through their mass-media, make it a popular misconception.

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>>2615260
>Frenchman were large-built, with red beards or blonde hair

But we never were


And blond hair and red hair are the symbol of cuckery, the more you have them the greater the cuckery

>>2616238
>more common in britain than france
>yet britain has consistently cucked france for centuries

yet again, proof of dark hair colours being inferior

>>2612651
Because French people don't live there. Fuck off, frog.

>>2616718
>Britain
>Cucking France

o i am laffin

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>>2612651
I'd say they did pretty good when it comes to expension toward the East

>>2616729
he types, in incredibly poor English

>>2616729
You can almost smell the anger

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>>2616729
>tfw the French will never avenge the Battle of the Nile
>tfw they will never avenge Trafalgar
>tfw they will never avenge Waterloo
>tfw they will never avenge Fashoda
>tfw they will never avenge Mers El Kébir

>>2616741
Exactly
Poor English is the official language of the current superpower: America
Britain has nothing to do with that

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>>2616749
Hows that Anglo Monarchy working out for you?

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>>2616729
>Be France
>Dawrf england in population and military for 450 years
>Despite this, England wins the culture war and all your military achievements are reduced to 'lol surrender frogs' because of a single war, while England is given all the credit for ww1

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>2616754
Having an immortal Norman king is great :)

>>2616743
>>2616760
I'm neither english nor french. The anglo butthurt is both palpable and hillarious, however.

>>2616754
I love how Frogs have to go back almost a millennium to dig up dirt on us

>>2616751
Who cares? We still have won culturally between the 2 of us.

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>>2616768
What exactly do we have to be angry about? Losing a war 600 years ago?

>>2616760
>Even when your Empire was at it's height your language wasn't the Lingua Franca
That is pretty pathetic.

>>2616770
>Brits still think America is Anglo Culture

>>2616760
While the French were better at war, Brits were cleverer
That's why that war France won over Britain in 1783 ended up creating a country that eventually made Anglo culture and language overtake France's as the most important internationally

>>2616774
I don't know why you are, but you very clearly are. Source: This thread

>>2616778
Who cares? this is applicable to the Russians, Chinese, Mongols, Germans, and Spanish.

The difference is we won in the end.

>>2616785
nice meme response

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>>2616787
right.

>>2616792
What's your point/ that our language is influenced largely by French?

No one denies that, if anything, it makes it all the better we culturally dominated you.

>>2616807
American culture isn't English culture hasn't been for at least 100 years

>>2616815
>it isn't because I say so

kk

>>2616789
Thanks for the ((You)), my limey friend.

>>2616821
Only real similarity is the language nowadays.

>>2616822
the level of salt from french on this board is insane

>>2616781
>English language
>Common Law
>Juries
>Liberty
>Rationalism
>Protestantism
>Being white
>Democracy that also functions

All British traits

>>2616834
Still not french. I'm posting this from Oxfordshire.

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>>2616840
Then feck off senpai

>>2616837
>Liberty
>British trait

lmao you has a queen

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>>2616837
>America
>white

What did he mean by this?

>>2616850
>what is a constitutional monarchy

Unlike you, our democratic reforms don't end with another absolute monarchy on the throne.

>>2613197
>the Rhineland and Belgium with the largest coal supplies in continental Western Europe which made for the historically largest (until Asia developed) steel production region outside of the US aren't vital.

>>2616855
It does end with us conquering someone stronger then tribals.

>>2616858
What the fuck has this post got to do with Anglos vs French? Plz keep to the topic at hand

>>2616866
It's almost like we're not all autistically obsessed with military history, Pierre.

Also, you realize Britain had to fight other colonial powers for that land?

>>2616873
>It's almost like we're not all autistically obsessed with military history
probably because you would be laughed at.

>>2616837
>English language
We speak American, a better language
>Common Law
one of the few things we do share, should use civil law really
>Juries
France has juries too, and they've varied over time.
>Liberty
France is the one with liberty.
>Rationalism
So says the country that originated the imperial system of measurement, one of the few things America has that actually is anglo.
>Protestantism
Roman catholicism is our largest denomination
>Being white
France is whiter than the English will ever be
>American democracy
doesn't function any more

We're a French country, Nigel

Because real life wasn't EU4. Louis IV tried to conquer the German lands West of the Rhine and got fought to a standstill by the rest of Europe in coalition.

>>2616875
*Cough*
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Trafalgar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Nile
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Agincourthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blenheim
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Salamanca
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kohima
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Quiberon_Bay

>>2616885
>all these meme answers like 'We speak American' and 'France is whiter than the UK'

You're trying really hard, i'll give you that.

>>2616885
>25% Catholic
>22% Episco
>18% Baptist
>15% Adventist
>10% Morman
>One Catholic Pres
>Couldn't even serve one full term
>We is Cathlic

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>>2616893
>agincourt
pic related thanks for the free royal land

>90% of the rest of fucking naval

The all powerful redcoat

>>2616913
>Naval victories are less legitimate because I say so

kk

>>2616921
Just hide on your island like always, leave the real wars to non-inbreds.

>>2616925
Holy shit, these meme-tier responses

You're just moving the goalposts here, Pierre.

>>2616925
I mean, you clearly can't handle real wars either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_France

>>2616932
When your allies run away and hide on their island at the first sign of trouble you can't do much.

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>>2616893
Anyone can post random battles
Try to post a war you won by yourself against another european country
Or better: against a coalition of european countries

What's funny is the whole meme about France surrendering in WWII is actually a compliment to France.

No one makes fun of Luxembourg or Belgium for being overrun by the Germans. France gets mocked because it actually had an impressive military history and was a great power.

You're mocked because we expected better from you.

>>2616935
But I thought we were just stupid inbreds? surely big old France can handle a few upstart dictators on her own?

>>2616936
Who cares? We entered every war with allies. that just makes us smart.

Also, revolutionary victories are entirely based on Napoleon (An Italian) and Levee en Masse.

>>2616945
>But I thought we were just stupid inbreds? surely big old France can handle a few upstart dictators on her own?
You autists wouldn't give us the peace deal we wanted after WW1. You caused the autistic blob that was the Reich.

>>2616945
>cowardice means you're "smart"

That might be true, but that's still inglorious

>>2616936
England won the Western Front in WWII against a coalition of all of continental Europe, with only its colonies to help.

>>2616950
>waaaaaaaaah give us all this land with no ethnic or linguistic french living there so we can have le epic rhine borders

French Autism knows no bounds. No even alsace-Lorraine was entirely french.

>>2616943
This.

Frogs btfo.

Also, Napoopan was Italian.

>>2616951
Stop listening to Sabaton.

>>2616961
>Also, Napoopan was Italian.
Well then all of Englands accomplishments for the past 900 years aren't English.

>>2616718
>yet again, proof of dark hair colours being inferior


>Colour

from the French word couleur

>inferior

From the French word inférieur
Daily reminder that your nobility is still French, and you will forever give your money to your French overlord like a Britcuck

>>2616972
Don't worry if your culture an dlanguage is 30% anglo-saxon you somehow still win, can't expect more from cucks.

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>>2616953
>England won the Western Front in WWII

Pretty sure America did that
Until the Americans arrived in 1944, Britain's experience on the Western Front was limited to fleeing at Dunkirk

>>2616972
>Having to twist and redefine nationality this much to be able to call our nobility french

sad tbfh

>>2616986
Stop being butthurt that you were the first French Colony, I mean by your standards of Colonization all your accomplishments are now ours right?

>>2616983
>Be French
>fuck up command so hard that within 6 weeks you get your ally's army encircled and lose your capital
>blame your ally for this
>your ally realizes they can't break the encirclement since you've already begged for an armistice and lost 200k men, so retreats and rescues your soldiers too
>call them cowards 70 years later

>>2616972
I guess romans cuck everyone, even when they're dead

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Can I ask one thing? How come the Normans influenced Anglos in their language very strongly but the same didn't happen in Southern Italy? Were Anglos just more beta and subservient?

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>>2616986
Pic related

>>2616994
>French identity before the end of the 100 year war
WEW lad

>>2616994
No, as our culture diverged from your's post conquest

>>2617001
Literally everyone acknowledges the French created England and the language

The point is England has surpassed France.

>>2617001
>English
>Welsh are suddenly English

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reminder that this is what germany should look like

>>2617008
>French created England
Nope, you can thank the franks but not the French for that

>>2617012
>>2617001
What do the free city charters say?

>>2616996
I'm not French and I'm not particularly mocking the British for Dunkirk
I'm just saying that, before America arrived, Britain did nothing on the Western Front other than Dunkirk

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>>2617014
>Franks
>England

>>2617023
Oh, I don't deny it.

Though when the Americans did arrive, the British made significant contributions to the WF

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>>2617012

>>2616749
Glad my post from yesterday has stuck

>>2617014
The Frankish Empire ended in the 9th century
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Verdun

By 1066, the Franks were part of the past, and their fomer empire had been divided between the French on the West, and the Germans on the East

I know you bongs are butthurt about having been conquered by the French, but, as a German, I demand you dont create misconceptions about Frankish (=/= French) history to justify your mental gymnastics

>>2617021
It say that the Anglos should submiit to their French conqueror and that the French conquerors should not bully their Anglo subjects

>>2617014
>the franks

Which mean the French

>>2617025
>what is first Christian king of England

>>2617037
>missing the fucking point
Look up the first heptarch to be Christianised
He married a Frankish princess

>>2617081
>the French are only franks
Are the English only anguls and seaxans?

>>2616837
>being white
>implying

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>>2617096
>Are the English only anguls and seaxans?

I have a few doubt about it, cause while the French look like their Frankish ancestors, the Anglos are too swarthy to be the descents of the Saxons, they're most likely the descendants of the Silures who were swarthy inhabitants of Britain.

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>>2617134
>swarthy
Anglos are the only true light in this world.

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>>2617155
t. beady eyed dark haired manlet

Anglos being 100% Germanic is the most stupid meme ever invented. In reality, they're only like 30% Germanic and the rest is swarthy Celt manlet ancestry.

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>>2617204
>avg height same as france
>2-3cm behind nordic countries
What's your point here? The reason the height is below germany is because we have four million pakistani/indians, who are on average about 3ft tall.

>while we bicker over who is white and not, Jamal is seeding that qt you had a crush on in high school

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>>2617230
I have seen what Anglos look like. These meme maps can't fool me. http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=93230

>tfw I actually can't think of a single blonde British actor besides Daniel Craig

Why do Anglos still keep WE WUZING?

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>>2617246
>wow someone took some photos of some people in some place
>and he also doesn't know many actors
Well, I'm beat. No coming back from that one. Back to plotting perfidy and mourning my lack of blonde hair I suppose.

>>2617134
>when fuckbois fight over the right of Prima Nochta, and you just text them 'alt right emoji' after asking for your castle number

>>2617204
It sure is annoying being bellow the average(180cm) of 184cm over here.

>>2617236
>caring about coalburners
I ain't paying no toll

>>2617012
NEVER EVER AGAIN!

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The final nail in the coffin to "Anglos are Germanic" meme: https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Why+we%27re+all+dyeing+to+be+blonde%3b+SHOCK+AS+80+PER+CENT+OF+WOMEN+WITH...-a0116777151

>Four out of 10 women in the UK are blonde but more than 80 per cent are faking it, according to a survey published yesterday.

>>2617379
>tfw blonde hair blue eye autistic conservative prone to acne

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>>2617204
15% in fact

>>2612651
What the fuck is that picture and how is it related to history

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>>2615260
>gaunt Corsicans
Yes, please.

JUST FUCK ALREADY

>>2616718
'Dieu et mon droit'
so fucking british, for sure

>>2618185
>the motto of the family from germany that doesn't run things
>this invalidates the nile, trafalgar, waterloo, fashoda, mers el kebir
no pepe adequate for this

>>2618185
'God and my right', taken by Richard I after defeating the French scum.
A little like the visigoths saying 'vae victis'

>>2612651
>>2618313
This is a board for history, not anime. Either post history-related pictures or get out.

>((("""France""")))
Hahahaha what a surrender country.

>>2618223
>Richard I

You do know that, in his whole life, Richard I didn't spend any more than a few months in England ?

>>2617012
Make Willem-Alexander van Oranje-Nassau Emperor of it and we have a deal.

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>>2618223
>A little like the visigoths saying 'vae victis'

First, Richard was Angevin French himself

Secondly, "droit" is an Old French expression which mean "to be in the right/to be allowed to do so", It is direcly opposed to "tort" which can roughly be translated by bad luck/be in the wrong

Also it is the Gauls(Brennus) who said Vae Victis after sacking Rome

>>2618329
It's Foch
Foch is historically related

>>2618612
Ah, sorry about that, my knowledge of latter Rome is lacking.
Doesn't droit refer to his claim on the French throne though, and they considered themselves to be different from the French such that they didn't see it as civil war when they fought.

>>2618664
>Doesn't droit refer to his claim on the French throne though, and they considered themselves to be different from the French such that they didn't see it as civil war when they fought.

I'm not too knowledgable about this period, but yes "droit" can be used to make a claim, and it is still used in Modern French "c'est mon droit !" / "j'ai le droit !"

Anyway, i just wanted to point out that this expression is extremely polymorphic especially during the Middle-Age

>>2612651
Please sauce me

>>2618329
If you complain about anime on this website you need to go back to the site where you can downvote all the anime posters you want.

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>>2618329
How isn't that history-related?

Also,

>complaining about anime on 4chan

Get out leddit. It's more related to /his/ than you think. It's part of the site's culture and history.

>>2612651
same reason why the romans weren't able to permanently establish the length of the rhine as the german frontier

other shit happens

>>2618612
>Richard lionheart was Angevin not Norman
WEW lad

All you guys talking about which country is the best while i come from slovakia

>>2620650
at least you can stay with your parents until you die

>>2619921
But that's right, fagget

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angevin_kings_of_England

>>2616837
>protestantism
>Anglican church
>the king sperging at the pope because muh divorce
>protestantism

Fuck off

Why did this become an Anglo-French argument thread?

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>dumbass Europoors arguing over who owns American culture tangentially to a shitfest about who was cooler centuries ago
>in a thread supposedly about hypothetical French natural borders

>>2616885
>France is whiter than the English will ever be

No We're Swarthy Salians-Trojans and have nothing to do with the fair Celto-Germanic people

Even our laws law is linked to those of the Hittie Law

See :

Salic Laws
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/medieval/salic.asp

Salic Laws
http://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/1650nesilim.asp

>>2622737
>Salic Laws
>http://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/1650nesilim.asp

I mean Hittite Laws

>>2622595
You're just jealous our history is rich and varied, burger.

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>>2616999
Italian is a Latin language
Saxon is Germanic
England had more words to adopt from them.

>>2621441
>Protestantism was entirely caused because Henry VIII wanted a divorce
Pretty retarded post

>>2622848
No one owns claim to any history

>>2616760
England didn't do shit in WWII except get stomped by Hitler until the communists defeated him. This is such a plain manner of historical record, I can't believe anybody other than Russia has the audacity to claim credit for beating the Nazis.

>>2625136
The US could have won the war, but Russia was obviously the one who did. If you take out all theaters of WW2 minus tell Eastern front it's still the biggest war in history. Germany devoted nearly all its resources to the East as well, everything else was a sideshow.

>>2624210
Wouldn't the Tudors be classified as Franco-Welsh?

>>2625081
>Anglicans and Protestants are the same thing
Pretty retarded post

>>2616999
Anglo women thirsted the BIG NORMAN COCK so they spoke and teached French to their sons to please their Norman Masters

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>>2612651
Savage Germanics chimping out all the time.

>>2627101
>teached

even in a post this autistic, you can't achieve proper english

>>2616760
>England wins the culture war

SAY WITH ME

DIEU ET MON DROIT

>>2627388
who cares

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>>2612651
Because the devil of Rhine fucked them over.

>>2613240

Germany is the chaotic neutral wildcard of the world.

>destroy rome
>become rome
>deus vult
>un-deus vult fuck the pope
>sit around doing country stuff
>liberate all the germans and form unified state
>form modern, functioning superpower
>go to war with half the fucking world for no reason
>win
>tide turns
>nvm lose
>get shit on
>get unshit on by crazy guy
>go to war with half the world for no reason round 2
>win
>nvm lose
>get shit on
>divided
>come back up as extremely modern economic superpower

inb4 germany goes autistic again

>>2612651
I want to fugg France

>>2627388
DIEU ET MON DROIT

>>2616943
You were mocked because unlike Belgium and Luxembourg, France is actually a large country with a population that should be capable of defending itself but instead you surrendered faster than Poland.

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>>2612651
we should never have been divorced by the spoiled kids of Louis the Pious

>>2627413
>go to war with half the fucking world for no reason
Nice meme Pierre

>>2627413
inb4 we reached the point of repeat
>germany destroys EU
>germany becomes AEU (arabic european eu)
>germany goes alah ahuacbar
>germany un-aluah acbar's meka

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>>2618179
Nice

Is a city in southern France.

Fucking Germans man, somehow managed to make my dick too small to ever satisfy any proper transwoman :(

>>2622595
being fair it was a really stupid question to begin with.

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>>2612651
Wtf I love France now

Anyway, they already managed to take quite a bit of land.

>>2631053
>>2631053
>>2631053
>try to post map
>Error: Duplicate File
>wth, its in the very same thread? I'm pretty sure it hasnt been posted already
>realize that some anon had posted the same obscure pic at the same time in an four-day old and otherwise inactive thread

That was spooky

>>2631091
It would be even spookier if yours is exactly the same size, 3.21 MB, since the original was 4.53 MB and I had to resize it when I posted it a few months ago.

>>2616997
You got that right at least, britcuck. How does it feel to be an italian rape baby?