[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Search | Free Show | Home]

Which wars do you wish were discussed more often?

This is a blue board which means that it's for everybody (Safe For Work content only). If you see any adult content, please report it.

Thread replies: 86
Thread images: 16

File: portuguese colonial war.png (243KB, 329x1739px) Image search: [Google]
portuguese colonial war.png
243KB, 329x1739px
Which wars do you wish were discussed more often?
>>
1812

It's an historical dead zone in my country.
>>
Spanish Civil war
>>
korean war tbqh
>>
>>2605787
>clinging for their colonies so violently when other colonial powers already had let theirs go

Why did they do that?
>>
>>2605787
Agree on Portuguese Africa wars also
>Russo Japanese War
>Crimea War
>Second Sino Japanese War
>Franco Prussian War
>Underrated theatres of ww1 like the Cacauses and Italian theatre
>>
French and Indian War (or the North American theater of the Seven Years War if you wanna be like that)
>>
>>2606810
UK and France had acquired their African territories relatively recently and were still powerful without them. The Portuguese had owned theirs for several centuries and considered them an integral part of their nation.
>>
>>2605787
The war on drugs
>>
>>2606863
By the 1970s Portugal hadn't been powerful in decades, colonies or no colonies.
>>
Franco Prussian War and the Spanish Civil War. Both wars took place during a time where technological advancements meant military doctrine had to change radically
>>
Byzantine-Sassanid war of 602-628.

All these crusades threads and still nobody ever talks about the war against the fire worshiping Persians and hordes of slav pagans to recover the stolen True Cross and save Christianity from total destruction.
>>
>>2607085
Should've let it be destroyed desu.
>>
>>2606847
Seven Years War overall I would say. I could not name two people of my age that even know it happened.
>>
>>2605787
First Barbary War
>Thomas Jefferson kills Muslim pirates

Russian Civil War
>America actually has small arms battles against Russian communists with Japan as America's ally

Hussite Wars
>2,000 Crusaders get btfo by 400 peasants in war wagons

First Sino-Japanese War
>China vs. Japan, Japan's first war after industrialization
>>
File: 2016_03b_simms_opener.jpg (1023KB, 1280x800px) Image search: [Google]
2016_03b_simms_opener.jpg
1023KB, 1280x800px
30 years war
>>
>>2605787
finno-korean hyper war
>>
>>2607079
Franco Prussian War is overshadowed in terms of military significance by the American Civil War.
>>
>>2606843
>Italian theatre

That was one big meme
>>
>>2607160
>two people of my age
Hnng
>>
File: kimbri.png (57KB, 318x841px) Image search: [Google]
kimbri.png
57KB, 318x841px
>>
>>2605787
None.

I fucking hate how overrepresented discussions of war are on this board. The vast majority of a human's existence takes place in a state without war, so treat both of those periods accordingly by not having 95% of threads be about wars, especially WW2.
>>
File: 1462224777176.png (285KB, 720x720px) Image search: [Google]
1462224777176.png
285KB, 720x720px
>>2607370
>The vast majority of a human's existence takes place in a state without war
>>
Japan in world war two.


Honestly the collections in English are overwhelmingly on the American fight in the pacific, with only small parts of the Japanese overall war effort from their perspective (and again these found only in afterthoughts in popular history or in extremely niche Academic circles). Everyone just goes on about the European theatre, which admittedly I did when I was like 16.
>>
>>2607370
But wars are much easier to study then other things.
>>
>>2607327
me, you
>>
>>2608550
So, tell me then, what's the percentage of a Syracusean's life that he spends campaigning, compaired to the percentage of time he spends working his fields and tending to his cattle?
What about the French serf?
The German craftsman in the city?

Say something substantial. I can just post smug pictures and greentexts negatively mirroring a quote, too.
>>
>>2608633
War persists while the Syracusean farms his fields
As well as while the French serf and the German craftsman work their trades.
War is never ending in the grand span of History, even if it takes a breather in one part of the world, you bet your ass it persists in another.
>>
>>2608714
I intentionally said "a human's", not "humanities'" existence. This implies direct involvement of the individuum in war at a specific point in time, not some war happening half across the known world away.

You might as well make the same argument to say that any other persisting arbitrary trait deserves so much attention, such as trade. Trade and cultural activities happen even more than war, they happen even during war, everywhere, so in a world where trade is assured to exist even more than war and have a lot of influence, too, why still have 95% of threads be about war and only a fraction of the rest be about trade?

Also, even the Spartans and Mongols didn't spend the majority of their existence continously being at war with external enemies - and even they are outliers already.
>>
File: fredgill.jpg (15KB, 520x390px) Image search: [Google]
fredgill.jpg
15KB, 520x390px
>>2607311
for u desu
>>
Boxer Rebellion
>>
>>2608766
>This is the display of the inquiry of Herodotus of Halicarnassus, so that things done by man not be forgotten in time, and that great and marvelous deeds, some displayed by the Hellenes, some by the barbarians, not lose their glory, including among others what was the cause of their waging war on each other.

You can be fascinated with the composition of fossilized peasant dung all you want, but for nearly everybody else history has always been a way to learn the great deeds of the people who came before them, and to glory in them. This the majority of the time means what they did in war.
>>
File: madoka_006_sayaka.gif (156KB, 500x500px) Image search: [Google]
madoka_006_sayaka.gif
156KB, 500x500px
>>2609465
Doesn't have to be something as mundane as dung.

Glory can be found outside of the martial realm. It could come from a great legal speech, a functioning constitution, a folk tale that scares children, a beautiful sculpture, a song that doesn't let go, a useful invention, an interesting argument about the mysterious metaphysics of existence itself.

Or, relevant to a board called /his/:

"Countless others have written on this theme and it may be that I shall pass unnoticed amongst them; if so, I must comfort myself with the greatness and splendour of my rivals, whose work will rob my own of recognition." (Livy: The Early History of Rome, I.1)
>>
WW2, especially if the topic concerns what Hitler could've done differently to win the war.
>>
>>2609465
There's complexities and interest to be found in non war activites, for the vast majority of us we probably won't get dragged into another war, but practically everyone can take interest in the speeches and rhetoric of figures like Martin Luther King, or the inventiveness and occasional brutality of Thomas Edison.
>>
>>2606905
still angola was part of portugal for almost 400 years by that point.

Even to this day any white/ Half whites living in former Portuguese colonies in Africa still believe they are Portuguese and not Angolan Or Mozambiqueian or what not.


It would be like Wales leaving the UK
>>
>>2605787
Second French intervention in Mexico
>>
>>2605787
I have two great uncles who fought in the Portuguese army in Angola
>>
>>2608604
You should read Samurai! By Saburo Sakai
>>
File: firefox_2017-03-20_02-39-33.png (267KB, 340x371px) Image search: [Google]
firefox_2017-03-20_02-39-33.png
267KB, 340x371px
>>2607366
>four times more casualties than Teutoburg

How is this not discussed?

>Inb4 appeal to k/d ratio
>>
>>2607085

>weakened both empires and allowed the mudshits to roll over everyone
>tfw we got this instead of a persian/byzantine shitstomping of the early muslims, preventing the religion from ever taking root
>>
File: rhodesiansneverdie.jpg (29KB, 298x325px) Image search: [Google]
rhodesiansneverdie.jpg
29KB, 298x325px
>>2605787
rhodesian bush war
>>
Nearly any Hanseatic war
https://youtu.be/3PRo74OHu-g

Any south american conflict before WW2 like the war between equador and peru in 1942, the Chaco war and El salvador in the 1920s

Days of lead might also be a cool topic.
>>
The Great Northern War 1700-1721
>Sweden faced Russia, Poland and Denmark all at the same time and kicked their asses until 1709
>Took another 11 years and two additional enemies for the swedes to finally lay down
>>
7 years war,aka the first,first world war
>>
>>2606843
Nobody ever talks about Italy in either world wars.
>>
>>2610068
It is, these defeats catapaulted Marius' career and the Cimbri/Teuton invasion were the biggest existential threat to Rome since the Second Punic War. Even Dan Carlin begins his podcast on the fall of the Republic with those invasions, it's fairly well known.
>>
File: Augusto Ferrer-Dalmau.jpg (162KB, 836x1000px) Image search: [Google]
Augusto Ferrer-Dalmau.jpg
162KB, 836x1000px
>>2605787
I think its fair to say both the seven years war and the thirty years war are almost unknown subject on this board
Never seen one thread about it
>>
>>2612316
this post is literally the only reference to the 30 years war I've seen in months here, except for sparse mentions of the battle of rocroi
>>
>>2609571
kek
>>
File: Franco Prussian war.png (190KB, 352x737px) Image search: [Google]
Franco Prussian war.png
190KB, 352x737px
>>
It a shame few people know about this war.
>>
>>2612303
ya because they were pretty poor at the whole war thing
>>
>>2614489
2bh the italian peninsula in ww2 was just a logistical mess on both sides
territory was gained slowly with errors in both axis and ally camps
>>
>>2609994
Looks like an interesting read, will check it out, thanks anon
>>
File: images.jpg (4KB, 100x114px) Image search: [Google]
images.jpg
4KB, 100x114px
>>2614484
>Be a Hakka
>Fail your civil service exams
>Have a psychotic episode where you see jesus paddle confucius
>You're his brother btw
>Given orders from god to smite the heathen Confucians and bring the Heavenly Kingdom to China
>Chimp the fuck out
>Raise up an army by shouting in the streets
>Build 10 foot long swords
>Nearly end the Qing
>30 million dead

was it autism?
>>
>>2605792

>meme war

>brits fighting europe's strongest empire since the romans led by a fucking semi-god

>fuck both up
>>
>>2607320

The ACW was some hill billy faggots rebelling. The Franco-Prussian war was the birth of a superpower.
>>
>>2607323

Lel reminds me of rommel destroying the meme italian infantry
>>
>>2612305
Where the fuck did this mega army show up from and how the fuck were they supplied?

200k men is Napoleonic wars tier. I have a hard time believing that figure.
>>
>>2609961

>you will never retake the northern states with your French brothers in arms
>>
>>2605792
not very interesting, the only thing Americans gained was some prestige, and brits got guarantees to not invade Canada.
What was going on in Europe that decade is far more interesting.
>>
>>2605787
Spanish Civil War
Chaco War
Latin American Wars of Independence/stuff Bolivar did
War of 1812
Russian Civil War
30 Years War
>>
>>2614582
afaik (which admittedly is little) it was basically their whole nation migrating around to find/conquer/settle better lands.

I'm pretty sure that during this war after losing the last battle to the Romans, the wives of the Teutons/Cimbri killed themselves and their children to prevent themselves falling into slavery.
>>
Spanish invasion of Portugal (1762)
>>
>>2605787
Russian Civil War.

Combined with the Greco-Turkish War, Polish-Soviet War, and, various spin off conflicts in the Middle East, it was basically World War 1.5. Stretching in scope from Poland to Mongolia and involving every great power of the day in one way or another as a direct result of World War I. And it ultimately ended in the formation of the USSR, one of the most important events of the 20th century. Plus it involved a lot of crazy shit like the Temujin LARPer or the journey of the Czech Legion.
>>
>>2614719
Rosa is the worst Meme. Special shout out to those faggots on twitter with the rose emojis. I hope you all die in a new holocaust
>>
>>2614582
>200k men is Napoleonic wars tier. I have a hard time believing that figure.
it was the entire peoples or tribes that decided to march south, likely due to Suebi or some other tribe forming confederacies up north and the Cimbri may have rejected the request.
>>
>>2605787
Spanish anexation of Portugal
>>
>>2614719
The one that was fought against a socialist government and didn't kill anyone?
>>
I'd love more discussion of THIS shitshow:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_War
>>
>>2614719
>le (((meme)))
hahaha le lololol XDDDDD i le said le (((meme))) haha (((XDDD))) le lolololol haha so le (((funny))) ecks dee dee dee!!!!!!!!!!
>>
File: indx.png (83KB, 322x996px) Image search: [Google]
indx.png
83KB, 322x996px
>>2606847
This
All we ever hear about that is that the British won, but I'd like to know how the French managed to resist a whole decade despite being outnumbered 4 to 1

I know British soldiers were of lesser quality than the rest of Europe, but still...
>>
>>2609961
Pretty weird shit

>French Emperor decides that his Austrian friend should be Emperor somewhere
>Randomly decides that it will be in Mexico
>France invades Mexico
>Conquers the whole country aside from a few villages in the North
>Austrian dude is named Emperor of Mexico
>American Civil War ends
>The victorious USA threaten France with war if they don't leave
>France, already worried with Prussia getting aggressive in Europe, complies and withdraws
>Now that the French army have left, the few rebels that were hiding in the North go South and quickly take back the whole country
>Austrian dude who became Mexican Emperor gets executed while wondering why he took part in all this retarded shit
>>
>>2616318
>Marlborough now massed his cavalry into two parallel lines that ran nearly three miles across and ordered them forward to administer the coup de grace. The ground reverberated with the pounding of thousands of hooves as the Allied troopers galloped inexorably toward the weakening French center. Awaiting them, the formidable Maison du Roy, or King’s Household cavalrymen, noted for their pride and panache, seemed about to accept the challenge when they suddenly drew rein, fired a ragged pistol volley and then turned and fled. With their precipitous flight, what was left of Tallard’s center evaporated like a morning mist.
>>
>>2616349
You're aware that Marlborough's troops were mostly German and Dutch, right?
>>
>>2616360
>Dutch
Yeah, how many dutch again?
>>
>>2610550
>tfw we live in the worst timeline
>tfw persia is no longer zoroastrian
>tfw zoroastrianism is now one big meme with not even 30,000 followers
>>
>>2617704

Definitely not the WORST timeline.
Constantinople could have feel hundred of years earlier and we'd all be mudshits.
>>
File: sM77zRs.jpg (36KB, 709x765px) Image search: [Google]
sM77zRs.jpg
36KB, 709x765px
>>2617723
>mfw I just imagined a world where T*rkey took over the world
>>
>>2605787
7 years war.
>>
>>2612919
This. French fags BTFO.
>>
>>2618201
Frenchbos are the worst.
>>
-Imjin War (there's much more going on than "muh turtle ships"

-An Lushan's Rebellion (if Shakespeare was Chinese, this would be his greatest source material)


4th Crusade IRL, but it's talked about too much on here. Crusaders were in the wrong, but the autistic rage of the Byzantiboos is annoyingly strong.
>>
James K. Polk and the assblasting of Mexico
>>
>>2605787
The Boshin war
Thread posts: 86
Thread images: 16


[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Search | Top | Home]

I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


If you need a post removed click on it's [Report] button and follow the instruction.
DMCA Content Takedown via dmca.com
All images are hosted on imgur.com.
If you like this website please support us by donating with Bitcoins at 16mKtbZiwW52BLkibtCr8jUg2KVUMTxVQ5
All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties.
Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the content originated from that site.
This means that RandomArchive shows their content, archived.
If you need information for a Poster - contact them.