Why are old commieblocks aesthetic in their own decrepit way?

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>>2604954
dunno

>commie blocks

Impossible, communism has never been tried

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>>2604954

what way is that?

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>>2604954
Le Corbusier was right.
to bad reactionary faggots stopped his plans for paris

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>>2604959

kek

Don't know what style if any this building belongs to but i love it. Shame its gone.

>>2604961
It gives a nice, comfy post apocalyptic dystopia vibe.

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>>2604968

No, brutalism shouldn't pollute beautiful neo-classical cities like Paris.

Kenzo Tange had the right idea with the plan for Skopje, built from scratch, too bad 90% of his plan was never implemented and we got a run of the mill yugoslav commie city.

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>>2604978
I think I just nutted to the idea of that photo coming to fruition.

>>2604970

I don't know. Living in the post warsaw pact country, I don't find it comfy at all, the current mix of contemporary and commie architecture plus bad transit inbetween just makes it depressing.

Dystopia, yes, I often find myself lost in thoughts when, for example, walking through Pripyat in Stalker or in Norilsk in googleview, but I can't into comfy.

>>2604978
>No, brutalism shouldn't pollute beautiful neo-classical cities like Paris.
t. reactionary cuck.
the past is the past, it has served it's purpose

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>>2604985

Sadly it never came to be, don't google "skopje 2014" just don't its too sad.

Also Italian Futurism > commieshit

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>>2604994

>the past is the past, it has served it's purpose

Beauty is timeless.

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>>2605000
Trips confirm

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>>2605014

Some color

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>>2604960
>blue sky
>green hills
I think not young buck.

>>2605019
fucking comfy lad

>>2605025

looks like a graveyard with headstones big enough to live in

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>>2605023
>I think not young buck.

What added color? The government would never lie to us :')

Unrepentant utilitarianism manifests well in architecture. It's a reflection of the society that built it.

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Architecture thread?

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>>2605006
>muh beauty
>muh feels
also practicality is beauty btw

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>>2605086

Hate all you want, utilitarian/modern architecture is flavor of the month, true beauty is eternal.

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>>2605076
>these are the product of capitalism
Feels good to be right wing

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>>2604954
Soviet Russian apartment projects or west side Chicago? You tell me.

>>2604954
All I see is giant graves.

>>2605000
This is disgusting

>>2604954
It's the forlorn and melancholic Beauty of looking at something which represents what was mean to be utopia but now lies utterly defeated

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>>2604969
It belongs to the state. Not the people. Marxist-Leninists and capitalists need to understand that state capitalism, socialism and communism are all separate things.

Then I think people would stop complaining about the "wheel commemeism hasn't been tried" meme

>>2605927
brand new commieblock = dilapidated nigger project

>>2604954
They are amazing.
>t. half my city is 70s Yugoslav commieblocks, also live in one, comfy as heck.

>>2604954
Because they seem to represent a bunch of very attractive ideas and an interesting period of time, but trust me, it's very shitty to live in.
It is better at very specific places and periods of time, but that's it. Even very bad houses are better than this.
t. Someone born in Czech republic who lived in both types and knows the difference very well (desu it's especially bad when growing up, in comparison to a house)
AMA, I think I know this topic quite well

>>2607100
MLs are state capitalists though

>>2605086
> implying commieblocks are practical

>>2607262
That's the point I was trying to get across. That Marxist-Leninism is a failed ideology and lessons should be learned from it's failures as well as it's successes.

>>2607280
How else are you supposed to accomodate for the huge population booms after WWII? Western Europe and USA also built loads of appartment blocks.

By extending the city. Commieblocks are not denser than city centres and a city like paris should have the money to invest in livable neighbourhood.

>>2604954
They aren't.

They are ugly as fuck and anyone who likes or even only tolerates them should be tortured to death,

>>2607261
Oh come on, they're not half bad.
t. commieblock resident from Croatia

>>2604954
They make me feel sad for some reason.

>>2604959
true. workers had never taken control of everything, it was centralized dictatorship

how do you call brutalism when it's too sci fi and mechanical looking to be JUST utilitarian concrete turds?

because that's the kind i like

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>>2605076
>unironically liking this tragic hedgehog

Corbusier was right, burn it all down

>>2604954
Pretty colours, uniformity and they can look good if they're neat and blended nicely with colours. Add a few trees and bushes and you've got something cosy.

Reminds me of the 90s China I grew up in.

>>2604969
It's brutalism.

>>2604954
Because you are a goddamn commie.

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>>2604968
>Had they not stopped the fool, i would live in a commiblock in an aesthetically ruined Paris this very day

The Tour Montparnasse is something i can go with, if it's the sole price to avoid this autistic shitshow

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I went to Bucharest a week or two ago and saw some beautiful architecture, but this building amazed me. I have no idea what it is that attracts me but it may be the most beautiful commie block I've seen. I don't know.

>>2604954
God that's depressing. I don't even mind the buildings that much, the vacant with well tread paths is a downer

>>2605076
You have any more 40s/50s NY?

Commie blocks are atrocious and I find the romanitization of them prevalent on the Internet for the past half decade or so by corn fed Midwesterners raised in middle class suburbs utterly bizarre.

Should have kept pushing east after berlin and exterminated those fucks

Funny how communists talk about consumerism and mass production and capitalism destroying authentic culture and then turn around and swoon over cheaply built mass produced beehive tier garbage housing whose only purpose was to efficiently store human capital.

>>2605086
Those old structures are still standing 500 years later and need little more than an occasional sandblasting to keep the stone pretty, while commieblocks can't last more than a century because reinforce concrete is porous, allowing water in to rust the rebar inside, cracking the concrete and making the building structurally unsound.

This is a stretch but I don't suppose anyone here knows anything about this series of French(I think) apartments that were built in this new experimental style but they're hardly ever used anymore, lots of circular windows, warm colors, peach walls and the like?
This is a giant stretch but I'm hoping someone in here with an interest in architecture would know

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>>2609948
We call them the Rockets.

Also this "Mammoth".

They probably wouldn't have been so bad if they were paired with urban greenery projects.

>>2610007
cool tropico screenshot

>>2604954
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>>2604970

Repetition, balance, and the presence.
repetition is hypnotic, this idea is best displayed in music, its also why *some* extravagant structures such as those of the Baroque period are "gaudy"...there are too many details for the mind to detect a "satisfying" pattern. Symmetry more or less is a part of the same mechanism, symmetry is somewhat of a pattern and something that is naturally pleasing to the brain. Because of their repetitive, gloomy, and often large size they contrast heavily with surrounding landscape, buildings, people, etc...but most importantly it disrupts what our brains think of as a "natural" (a certain ratio and distribution of patterns to non-patterns). All of these things can contribute to "good aesthetic" as well as a lack thereof.

>>2604954
Commieblocks are unironically comfy as fuck.
I used to criticize them when I used to live in Eastern Europe, but now I miss them.
Keep in mind that the urban parks between the blocks, even if they look ghetto, give a sensation of space. This is unlike the short duplexes all glued one to another without any space in between (besides the small backyard) popular in the East side of North America, where you need to /go somewhere/ in order to have a bit of space instead of just going outside your block.

t.Bulgarian living in Montreal

Besides the aesthetic complains.

Building based on practicality it's perfectly viable.

It has been tried and it works just fine.

You think they are ugly?

Paint them.

>>2607350
How much of your life have you spent not living in one? They aren't the worst, but palce in comparison to most other options.

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>>2610320
It's been done

>>2605927
Not even close. No commieblocks were build with bricks, most of them are paneled.

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>>2610320
Coloured commieblocks are kitsch incarnated and possibly the worst thing ever.

pic related is from early 60s and still looks perfect

>>2604968
Grow up

>>2605086
>also practicality is beauty btw
Nice opinon

Modernism was such a mistake.

>>2610234
thanks!

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Because cheap urban sprawl is so much more cozy.

Pic related, squares of cheap brutalist hosing in Argentina, with dirt roads in between. Capable of holding as many people as a commie block, but 300% more aesthetic and probably cheaper.

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>>2614352
Why do Americans want their cities to look like an overgrown village? Even in planned cities like La Plata, it looks terrible. Proper city has to have multiple-story residentals, or else I am going to puke.

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>>2614358
It's a small city, but what would you rather live in? A tightly knit community of blocks where kids can play in the street, or a concrete monolith where you're surrounded by 100s of people at all times?

Formosa's one of the poorest cities in Argentina, but in terms of architecture it's a marvel. Full of brutalist eyesores and cheap housing solutions. I'd highly recommend all these commieblockboos spend an evening on google maps going through Formosa Capital.

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How can you people enjoy this shit, I get violently angry everytime I see these commie bloc eyesores

>>2610091
I agree. The biggest problems with brutalism is that it's either a.) on its own with nothing to contrast it with, or b.) starts to look shitty the moment it stops being maintained.

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Just like tetris.

>>2615099
wait they were literally assembled as prefabricated blocks?

mind = blown

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Commieblocks were just cheap as shit apartments mass produced for quick post-WW2 to house the literal hundred million + people that had their homes and cities wiped off the face of the earth during WW2.

In Western countries like the US or Australia or NZ or whatever. Instead of commieblocks, you had shit like Fibro Homes. Which were built by the millions from prebuilt frames and asbestos sheeting.

Quantity is its own quality. Have enough of something, make it big enough, it's impressive.

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>>2605000
>mfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJyxDH99UPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeF-3PIyk7A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl1hJVtWeSY&t=2s
FUCKING KILL ME

>>2604954
>It's an upper class underage Bernout who grew up in a 9000 sq feet mansion in a wealthy suburb and fetishizes shitty turd world ugly buildings episode

>>2615564
You know, the world doesn't revolve around socialism.
Go to actual socialism threads, there's always plenty of those, leave us architecturefags.

>>2615571
Yes, I'm sure you're a hardcore libertarian.

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>>2615564
But anon, I lived in the ghetto.

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>>2615577
Now that you mention it...
Tho, i don't speak on OPs behalf

>>2607350
Maybe, if each family had an entire floor or wing to themselves and weren't packed like a can of sardines.

>>2604969
>shame its gone

What?

>>2604969
Wait, was this building built or designed before WW2?

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>>2604994
>the past is the past, it has served it's purpose
GET OF MY BOARD RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE

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a new neighborhood in my hometown in the early 70s

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>>2615862
meant to post this

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>>2615882
some of the earliest communist blocks

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>>2615887
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>>2615907
student dormitories

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>>2615936

Daily reminder that commieblocks were intentionally designed to evoke grief, sadness and depression because although happy people are less likely to gripe and complain they are also less productive than melancholic people.

It's fucking weird though, I've always assumed depressed people as apathetic and inactive as fuck but guess I was wrong.

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Yeah, they can bring sort of romantic feeling to suburbs sometimes.
But after living near these things in Finland for about all of my life they become pretty dull.
There is always way too less nature and way too much concrete. Also these suburbs attract nowadays mostly immigrants, poor workers, lower middle-class families and welfare rats.

But I must thank god for that brutalism is over. Brutalist buildings are almost always dullishly grey and are sometimes very unpractival for the Finnish environment (you can see marks left by rain in the walls and in winter snow can cause a danger for flat roofs). Pretty much only people around here who deeply love brutalism are 70 year old stalinists.

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>>2614382
Maybe I'm not looking right, but again, it looks like poor suburb. The trees are nice at least.

I don't really see your point, when you are talking about the concrete monolith and shieeet. The urban sprawl you seem to love so much is more claustrophobic than Le Corbusier-style gigantic urban projects with vast space inbetween. To me, the important part of having an urban feeling it's uniformity (to a certain degree) and the organic feel of buildings being compilmentary to each other. Think Haussmann renovation, where every house on one street looks simillar to the other.

But I guess it is a matter of personal taste and upringing. Living in one of the bigger metro areas in Europe, I grew to like the atmosphere that big buildings create. They dominate the landscape and let you know you live in a city, while the detached houses in suburbs provide a contrast and tranquility.

pic rel, comfy af

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>>2615972
MODERNISM =/= BRUTALISM REEEEEEEEEEEE
(actually the blocks are somewhat practical for colder climates since it's cheaper to heat them, but I understand what are you trying to say.

>>2615959
Nigga, what?

The socialist architecture is based on Corbusier's ideas, which are ideologically optimistic (in simillar way as ideologically communism is optimistic). They are supposed to build tight communities and be a hallmark of the better future. They look depressing because they are dirty, unmaintained and are usually photographed during winter.

Of course the real reason for building them is that it was the cheapest way to accomodate people coming en masse to work in mines and metal factories.

>>2615959
Bullshit, they were built to provide quality housing for as many people as possible during an era when functionalism was all the rage.

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>>2615999
Sorry, my bad. Of course most of the Finnish architecture from 20th century is modernism although there are some brutalist buildings here and there.

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not a commie block but loosely related.

I unironically think this is the coolest looking large structure ever made by human beings.

>>2616072
I always though it looked pretty cool too, glad they managed to finished it.

>tfw only racialist fascist dystopias bother with interesting architectural projects on a large scale

I HATE THEM SO MUCH
REEEEEEEE


HOW CAN YOU BOMB 90% OF A HISTORICAL CITY TO FUCKING ASH AND THEN REPLACE IT WITH CEMENT RECTANGLES

REEEEEEEEEEE

>>2616860
>HOW CAN YOU BOMB 90% OF A HISTORICAL CITY TO FUCKING ASH AND THEN REPLACE IT WITH CEMENT RECTANGLES
With bombers and construction equipment, it's not that complicated m8.

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>always built away from the street/sidewalk
>people say commie blocks and brutalist city designs are "efficient" and "practical"

Building apartments away from the street make the city scape ugly and don't use the maximum space possible. If you want grass space it should be placed in parks not in front of apartment buildings.

Buildings built away from the street destroy not only the feeling of being in a city but also the walkability of being in a city.

http://pripyat-city.ru/
>ywn be a comfy stalker running around pripyat looking for artifacts

>>2604978
What is that? A blade runner model?

>>2605086
Juden detected

>>2609865
They're still standing because they always get restored/repaired. They get repaired because they're buildings of historical significance, not some random guy's apartment.

>>2607350
Maybe because you don't got to know any better.

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>>2609901
These ones?

Communism is a system created to destroy people's culture, pride, self-enterprise, lineage, inheritance, and ultimately their soul. It is marketed as otherwise though.

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>>2615973
Tell me this doesn't look cozy though. A sprawl of cheap concrete housing and dirt roads. Pure efficiency.

>>2620741
That doesn't look cozy.

Commie blocks can be aesthetic if they fucking twist them some instead of row houses.

>>2609948
I live across the street from these.

>>2604994
I want you to die

they look very depressing to me.

i guess some of them could be considered 'beautiful' but i would kill myself if i had to live there.

>>2605029
Stealing this line tyvm famalam

>>2608934
It's borrowed a huge amount of stuff from classical Italian architecture and just made it a teensy bit blockier. The columns all have actual heads, the banisters on the balconies are all that lovely large-post-framing-smaller-posts style, there are large framed panels set into the walls on the right, and the whole thing is just the right mix of grey and earthy colours. In addition, the building is surrounded by more conventionally classical-looking buildings and a decent amount of greenery. Thanks to the above classical-derived features, it's able to blend into this rather nice tableau.

However, a dozen such buildings adjacent to each other would be hard to do right, requiring a very aesthetic street I'd imagine.

Good thing to post.

>>2610007
Where is this?

>>2620242
That looks like em, thanks anon

>>2616072
Is this real?

>>2620263
This.

>>2620741
This picture stuck me with a used needle.

>>2624116
Yes.

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>>2604954
Don't know anon.

>>2616072
I recognized it from the Mercenaries videogame. Had no idea it was real.

>>2616072
Looks like a super-villain's fucking evil lair.
So fitting it's in North Korea

>>2604978
>too bad 90% of his plan was never implemented
Thank God because Croatia and yours truly (Slovenia) would have to foot the bill - as with anything else built in Yugoslavia

>>2604994
Fucking futurists get out REEEE

>>2624116
It's the hotel in Pyongyang

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My favourite commie block: 1km long, 100m tall public housing project. 7000 units. Just looking at it makes me shiver

>>2626161
literally looks like god took a shit

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I feel sad when I see these in my country (Croatia)

Commies are monsters who have scarred our country to the point where it will take us another 50 years to get rid of their legacy

>>2626161

What if we built commieblocks on national borders? Everyone would have a giant wall then.

>>2626271
>commieblocks on the coast

literally who the fuck thought that would be a good idea?

>>2626313
>literally who the fuck thought that would be a good idea?
Socialists, of course. They've scarred all 4 big cities with clusters of commieblocks, regardless of whether they're in the continent or on the coast

>>2616916
I agree 100%!
I think about this alot, when I see new buildings being built and they are like 10 meters from the sidewalk, and there is this useless patch of grass, or even worse, a car/park that can fit like 4 cars.

What we love about old and charming cities is sure the old and beautiful buildings, but more than that is the unconscious feeling of unity and order, the building rises from the end of the sidewalk, the blocks are complete, with more or less similar sized buildings, no gaps in between, or even worse, gaps at the intersections.

>>2626271
i feel you

t. Latvia

>>2615660
The building doesnt exist anymore, its from Skopje but I've never seen it, I might be wrong tho.

>>2615664

Not sure

>>2626161
>100m tall
Fuck

>>2615514
>millions
at least they have a yard

Brutalism is fine in spatterings, but when you live somewhere with that being all you see every day it grinds away at your soul.

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>>2628950
Correct.

>>2604954
Because uniformity and congruence and symetry are pleasing. If we got a look inside it'd be a different story.

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>>2627031
Everything went to shit after WW1, and then commies started building up disgusting commieblocks to house rurals who were moving to cities en masse

>>2607375
this picture is goddamned amazing. The color, the snow, the loneliness, the coldness, the unaesthetic design of the government mandated buildings and the woman walking through it all simply touches something within me that I didn't know I had inside. Thanks for that pic OP.