Why wasn't Christianity convincing to Jews?

It started as a Jewish sect, anon.

>>2603030
not Jewish but there are very many things Jesus didn't do that the Messiah was supposed to do

>>2603036
But it quickly became a gentile movement and most Jews turned to Pharisaism.

>>2603030
When a Christian says to a Jew, even to most non-religious Jews, "Jesus was the Messiah," the Jew brushes this off and explains that of course he wasn't, because he didn't bring peace to the world, the Messianic Age isn't here, etc.

However, when a Christian says to a Jew, "Jesus is God," a Jew is dumbfounded. To a Jew, it's so obviously untrue, that you don't even know how to address that.

The idea that a human was God, or that God was a human, is so counter to everything in Judaism that it goes without saying.

When in doubt, blame Paul.

>"Pay on to Caesar what is Caesar's"

That. Jews weren't about to just give up their shekels so easily when they follow an incredibly legalistic religion that literally encourages trying to find loopholes in lengthy established texts to justify doing anything you want.

>>2603070
damn jews just want heaven on earth
they're a carnal people

>>2603070
>>2603087

>Jews want heaven on earth

>do everything in their power to screw over goyim and create conflicts

???

>>2603100

thanks, /pol/, we need more of these insightful comments.

>>2603113

Like it or not, but there are enough instances in history where Israel and Jewish person did something that defies the concept of "peace on earth".

Or do you mean that it is not up to the Jews to follow the goals of the messiah?

>>2603100
Checked. Jews want to dominate the goyim

>>2603100
the jews want peace only for jews, that peace isn't for us

>>2603030
I think it was. It convinced a lot of them. Just not all of them.

>>2603030
If some crazy hobo today told you he was God, would you believe him?

Jesus fulfilled no prophecies.

>>2603030
In addition to this,
>>2603070
You also just have a number of theological concepts underlying Christianity that are just bizarre to someone coming from a Jewish theological background. Original sin and its consequences, for instance. In Christianity, Sin is something you are, something you have by mere human frailty and falling short of the perfection that is God. Judaism believes that sin is something that you do, a personal failure in living up to the expectations that God has for humanity, which take into account human imperfection. If a Christian says "Well, Jesus was special, he never sinned", an (educated) Jew would point out that there are a number of others who did that as well, like Amram and Benjamin, and none of them were God because of it.

Stuff like the purpose of sacrifices, or the underlying purpose of man in the world, or WHY the world is harsh and painful and unfriendly like it is.

>>2603030
Because Jews were blamed for the death of Jesus?

>>2603299
woe to them, for they've gone in the way of cain.

>>2603299
I always assumed the entire gimmick of demonizing the Jews was Paul trying to butter up to the gentiles.

>>2603308
Not him, but I doubt that. Most gentiles in the mediterranean region, Greeks and Cilicans and the like, wouldn't particulary care about Jews or want to see them demonized. A much more likely explanation is that they blame "the Jews" about the death of Jesus to not blame the Romans for the Crucifixion. The Jews were relatively harmless, but Rome could and did fuck with the Christians. It's probably the same reason why the Gospels tend to conflate the Sadducees the Pharisees, as casting Jesus as the opponent of the sect most anti-Roman is a good way to try to get on the Roman's good side.

>>2603251
So he was the Donald Trump of Religion?

>>2603351
damn....

>>2603100
>do everything in their power to screw over goyim and create conflicts

source?

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>>2603030
It largely was.

The folks you call Jews today are the descendants of the faction that wasn't convinced, and their entire identity before the lolocaust was based on their rejection of Christ as messiah. They kept expecting the Messiah to be some comic book character warlord who would BTFO the Romans and make them relevant again.

Then their so-called Messiahs kept getting shredded up by Roman iron, and eventually they gave up and decided the whole Israel thing was actually about "talking things out amongst ourselves maaan".

>>2603030
It convinced a lot of them; the first time the religion started spreading to the gentiles it was very controversial...