What's the deal with Russia not producing any noteworthy music until XIXth century and then suddenly producing so many great composers of classical music? Why did it happen?
>Tchaikovsky
>Prokofiev
>Rachmaninoff
>Stravinsky
>Rimsky-Korsakov
>Musorgsky
>Glinka
>Shostakovich
>Borodin
How did they catch up without a classical tradition?
cristaintiy
https://youtu.be/V-U9I8uJSXQ
>German. German. Composers are always German.
>>2593339
And which composers from this list are german?
>>2593324
None of these composers are great
Vodka
>>2593324
>Tchaikovsky
>Stravinsky
Good.
The rest are literally who (?) to me.
>>2593392
You know Stravinsky but don't know Prokofiev and Shostakovich?
All I know is Russia was on its way to becoming a major economic, political and military power when the Bolshevik revolution arrested its development.
>>2593417
And cultural as well.
>>2593417
Soviet cultural policy in music made an emphasis on composing folk-inspired music, this killed off most of the russian classical tradition, don't forget that many composers fled after the revolution
>>2593324
Enlightenment took roots. Peter the great and Catherine the great did a good job of setting Russia on the course of greatness.
>>2593406
Stravinsky, a staunch anti-Bolshevist, said he didn't blame the soviet government for condemning Shostakovich's opera Lady Macbeth of the Mtsensk District. That's how awful he thought it was.
>>2593487
That's an interesting piece of information
>>2593324
Never heard of any of these guys or their music
>>2593565
You probably have, but you're not associating the name with the music. Anyway, check them out on JewTube, you might like it.
>>2593565
/his/ is dead.
I'm not knowledgeable on the subject, but I'm bumping this so the "Slavs aren't white" crowd can learn.
>>2593324
>tchaik
utter shit
>prokofiev
alright
>rach
worse than tchaik
>stravinsky
good
>rimsky
alright
>mussorgsky
overrated
>glinka
bad
>shostakovich
babby's first classical
>borodin
proto-film music shit
>>2593565
Spotted the victim of American education system.
>>2593565
well then, you have something to find out, please, expand your palate
>>2593647
I'm getting fed up with this meme, and your rear will be holding court with my boot should we ever meet.
>>2593324
>why did russia suddenly produce so many nonames in XIXth century?
>>2593633
>Stravinsky, Prokofiev better than Tchaikovsky
>am I edgy yet?
Prokofiev is pretty mediocre aside from one symphony and two violin concertos.
>>2593665
>being this mad
Nothing personal m8 but your schools are shit
>>2593674
>tchaikovsky
>good
l ' a r t p o m p i e r
>>2593324
Russian composers are overrated. I challenge you to prove that any of these composers wrote good music, pro-tip: you can't
>>2593633
Shit bait
>>2593693
not baiting, you just have shit taste
>>2593633
Edgy
>>2593680
>Stravinsky
Le chords
Le syncopated rhythms
No substance
No counterpoint
Literally vacuity: the composer.
>>2593697
Care to explain your superior patrician taste then?
>>2593701
>no counterpoint
t. has never looked at a stravinsky piece
>>2593633
Please elaborate on how you came to this conclusion
>>2593633
This post is autistic on so many levels
>>2593679
it is true that inner city schools under-perform, but outside of that it isn't the case, the private alternative also exists
>>2593633
What do you listen to? Penderecki?
>>2593633
nice one m8
>>2593729
>2017
>has still only listened to threnody
penderecki doesn't write music like that anymore bro
>>2593705
>embellished accompaniment
>counterpoint
Wew.
I bet you rate movies based on the special effects.
>>2593742
https://youtu.be/2amZ2i7YSY0
dumb
>>2593633
t. Béla Bártok listener
>>2593742
>Wew
>>>/facebook/
>>2593754
That bait has wielded many a (You)!
ITT: rampant /his/trionic hipsterism
>>2593633
>being this much of an edgy ironic hipster
>>2593681
What makes a composer good to you? Are you one of those edgelords who thinks that classical music begins and ends with Bach, Mozart, and Beethoven?
>>2593877
The ability to compose complex, rich music. Tchaikovsky or Rachmaninoff are like babies compared to great european composers.