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1.) How effective was the Kriegsmarine in World War II really?
2.) Did they have any real strength outside of their U-Boat Fleet?
3.) How did they stack up against other navies of the time? Were they the fourth most powerful behind the US, Japan and the UK? Could they have been stronger?
4.) Why didn't they expand and build more surface ships and even aircraft carriers? Wouldn't that have given the Wehrmacht considerably more strength, particularly in the Atlantic?
5.) Is there any truth to the notion that the Kriegsmarine were the least "nazfied" branch of the Wehrmacht? It seems like the Luftwaffe was definitely the most full of actual Nazies and the Heer seems to be a mix of conscripts and actual hardcore Party followers. Plus I've heard that Hitler didn't care for the Navy at first. Is any of this accurate or is it not that simple?

Also, general Kreigsmarine and/or World War II Navies thread.
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>>2591887

Other than the subs they mainly just sat in port for the entire war trembling in fear at the might of the British Empire.
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>>2591887
Not really effective at all
No
Bellow French&Italians but above Soviets
No matter how much they had built up their surface fleet it still wouldn't had been enough to counter the head start that brits had
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Despite having a relatively weak navy outside of their u-boats, weren't those pretty damn effective compared to their size and supply/support? Like didn't the Americans actually copy their wolf pack tactics for their submarines against the Japanese in the Pacific?

How would you say the German U-boat fleet stacks up against the submarines of other nations during the war? And is it true that being a member of a German u-boat crew was the most dangerous assignment in the war statistically? I also heard that the submarine corps in the American navy suffered the most losses of all American branches per capita too.
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How good was the Imperial German Navy of the WWI-era?
How did they compare to the later Kriegsmarine? Were they comparatively a stronger force for their time than the Kriegsmarine was?

Either way, the Imperial Germany Navy had a GOAT ensign.
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very effective at what they were supposed to, a little bit too effective, thats why the RN did everything to counter them
the surface navies task was to sink tonnage and cargo, cutting britain from its colonies

these raiding parties, searching for merchants did good, however they were a bit too gentlemanly and a bit too eager, so they got detected and the RN could hunt them down, force them into ports

yes? the battleships, pocketbattleships, cruisers, heavy cruisers were a threat, allies always kept an eye on them, where they are
it was strong fleet, but not strong enough to challange the RN in an open battle

lack of materials, other priorities
they had no experience with carriers, no islands to hop on to, no giant open water areas to cover and no intention to engage in open combat

your last point is very off
Hitler didnt want to piss off the brits by a large fleet that could seem threatening to them
then it was the question of how
after sinking the bismarck raeder was blamed, and in came donitz (battleships vs uboats)

the surface fleet was not ready, like the german army generally and they couldnt pull off miracles like the heer
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>>2591975
Well the battle of Jutland was their only major engagement with the Navy of the UK and they didn't get stomped, it was inconclusive. So probably better than Nazi Germany's Navy comparatively.
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>>2591887
>1.) How effective was the Kriegsmarine in World War II really?
Considering the size? Very
>2.) Did they have any real strength outside of their U-Boat Fleet?
No really, the commerce raiders were as not as effective as the uboats
>3.) How did they stack up against other navies of the time? Were they the fourth most powerful behind the US, Japan and the UK? Could they have been stronger?
If we talk about surface fleet they were behind Italy (yes the fucking regia marina) and France
>4.) Why didn't they expand and build more surface ships and even aircraft carriers? Wouldn't that have given the Wehrmacht considerably more strength, particularly in the Atlantic?
The plan was to build a navy by 1948, when the war started in 39 they scrapped all the plans and slowly start to focus on uboats
>5.) Is there any truth to the notion that the Kriegsmarine were the least "nazfied" branch of the Wehrmacht? It seems like the Luftwaffe was definitely the most full of actual Nazies and the Heer seems to be a mix of conscripts and actual hardcore Party followers. Plus I've heard that Hitler didn't care for the Navy at first. Is any of this accurate or is it not that simple?
True, fun fact the sea planes of the ships were under control of the luftwaffe due to the fat fuck wanting to rule over evry german plane
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