Is Italy the most lucky/smart country ever?
>ww1 starts
>stay neutral than attack the guys you had a defensive alliance with
>win the war and destroy the austrian empire
>ww2 starts
>army sucks and lose africa
>shitolini loses in Greece too
>get btfo by everyone
>manages to get out of the war with no occupation and few territorial changes while Germany gets divided like a cake and occupied
How the fuck did they do that I mean it's not like they were the best at war but how did they manage to win a war (ww1) beating one of the strongest empire at the time and to not have the same faith as Germany in ww2?
>>2591521
>than attack
I meant "then" god fucking damnit no bully pls
nobody ever saw them as a threat so nobody bothered to "punish" them
like when the nerd kid tries to get people in dodgeball during gym class. it's cute, but you know you can dodge his attacks and just smash his face in any time you want
>>2591526
You always can delete post/thread and create new, dummy.
pic related is the human equivalent of italy
>>2591536
You can't delete an OP.
>>2591533
And Italy didn't piss off the russians like Germany did.
>>2591521
Maybe it's because of the Holy See and the Pope, and their trappings to to the people
>>2591521
>join war against a badly performing empire beset on different fronts that couldn't even invade Serbia properly
>get into a three year long near-stalemate where you actually lose territory
>eventually the empire is basically starving, beginning to literally fall apart and the war is lost for the enemy alliance
>kick the open door in and claim victory
>don't even get the concessions you wanted
>>2591521
Germany was divided because both Allied factions (communist and capitalist) invaded. Italy was only invaded by the capitalist Allies.
>>2591521
Honestly it wasnt due to the war effort on their part, but had more to do that they were invaded by capitalists and were prone to socialist sentiment post war.
Say what you will about the allies, but they learned from the post wwI era
>>2591560
Italy had only numbers in her favour, everything else was either inferior or equal to what A-H had.
The Western Front was also a stealmate. France and the UK were fighting a Germany busy with Russia, and yet the frontline barely moved.
The London Pact outright excluded Fiume (gotta leave a port to Austria-Hungary), Italy getting it would have been over what were promised in exchange of entering the war. Also, telling Croatia to get stuffed was very much against the Spirit of Veirsalles; and they could not give a piece of Turkey to Italy because Atäturk kicked everyone out.
We wuz alive n shit
>>2592104
Look at that italy lost almost no troops and civilians, how the fuck did they do that and how
>>2592151
Diplomatic skills and chivalry with the prisoners, italy used to save the live of their prisoners, even russian prisoners were treated well, most of times, and soldiers in russia when they scout to search food in the houses or farms but the conditions were so shit that they usually gave their rations to the kids they found. So basically when they were capture by the enemy they were usually treated better then the germans.
>>2592151
Italian have no loyalty to germancucks. Why would they? Germancucks repeatedly destroyed Italian goverments throughout history.
>>2592410
>Germancucks repeatedly destroyed Italian goverments throughout history
>tfw they are doing it even today
>>2591521
Because allies controlled all of Italy. Giving France an occupied territory and council seat was all posturing to occupy most of Germany despite the soviets
>>2591521
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collaborations_between_the_United_States_government_and_Italian_Mafia
This.
Venetian Jewry
>>2591521
During WWI, the Italians really wanted Dalmatia, and Britain and France promised them that. My guess is if the Italian government and population knew how little the British and French were going to give them, they would have stayed neutral.
As for WWII incompetence, Rommel said that the average Italian soldier was fine, but the Italian officers were shit. I think that has to do with Mussolini's purges.