Can we have an architecture thread? Bonus points for posting

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>>2591063
>Bonus points for posting stuff that doesn't exist anymore.

WHAT DOES ONE GET BY POSTING IMAGES OF SOMETHING THAT DID NOT EVEN COME TO BE?

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>>2591063

>>2591063
>first time seeing this
>learn it doesn't exist anymore
this is just pure emotional robbery

>>2591425

I simply can't for the life of me see how it came to be this way.

:^)

>>2591357
hopefully a ban, faggot

Khan Palace in Ganja, Azerbaijan. Was destroyed during the war with Ruskies in 19th century

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>>2591477
forgot pic

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>>2591478

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Beijing used to have extensive fortifications surrounding it

you can imagine who thought they needed to go

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Exist anymore

>>2591510

RIP childhood dream of visiting the observation deck like in home alone 2

>>2591510
F

>>2591510
good riddance

>>2591532
Lol what's your problem?

>3edgy5me

>>2591510
Just from a totally objective view with nothing to do with the tragedy, they're a bit ugly, aren't they? Two big grey rectangles.

>>2591532

raus

>>2591510
I'm glad this dystopian II was toppled

if I died tomorrow I wouldn't even be mad considering I lived through 9/11

>>2591561

in what capacity did you "live through 9/11?"

>>2591540
They're wonderful examples of American International Style architecture.

>>2591063
thicc

>>2591570
I flew one of the planes

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Catedral del Voto Nacional in Quito, Ecuador.

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>>2591988
More of the same cathedral.

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>>2591990

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Contribootin'

>>2591470
underrated

>>2591529
I work in the new building, it's pretty sweet

>>2592540

it's alright, but I think it would have been better to brick for brick rebuild the things

>>2593037

among my favorite photographs, I just wish I could spend an afternoon there

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>>2591063
>MFW I love architecture and environmental design but I realized pretty quickly that the life of an architect was shit and didn't provide nearly as much creative control as one would want.

Is there still any way for me to influence architecture and design even if I'm not nor will ever be an architect?

>>2594872
Graffiti and vandalism

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>>2591063

>>2595038

nice hogwarts tier building

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>>2591510
obligatory

>>2591416
That's fucking gorgeous, can I live there?

>>2591582
God bless Hungary
>Beautiful buildings
>Beautiful people
>BTFOs leftie fucking shits

>>2595475
This is the noob starting location in the town of Lumbrige in Runescape, it still exists man.

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Bijenkorf van Dudok - This beautiful building in Rotterdam has just existed for 10 years

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Amsterdam - proposal for a new stock exchange

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M O D E R N I S M

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>>2597984
was a Mistake

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>>2598178
why? should we repeat the same 'we wuz romans n nordics n shieeet' trollop for the rest of time? Should the modern era we live in not have developed its own architectural forms reflecting the nature of society and advances in technology?

>>2592540
if they had any balls, they would paint a big bullseye on the thing

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>>2598231
I believe very little of it will be considered beautiful in not too long a time.
And if building a modern building means tearing down an older one that is more eclectic or really shows its influences from an era I hate it.

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>>2599189
>I believe very little of it will be considered beautiful in not too long a time.

That's the case with most architectural phases. A few 19th century buildings are beautifully intricate or pristine but the vast majority were terraced slums or hack job derivatives of popular styles. It's also important to keep a sense of perspective; Modernism is a style that's almost 70 years old now and the fact that some buildings (such as pic related) look to many observers like they could have been built yesterday is a part of what makes this style so unique. It's true that there are many bad attempts at modernism that now look dated or ugly but the beautiful examples of modernism deserve preservation just as any beautiful Beau Arts or Gothic Revival structure

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>>2599277
>A few 19th century buildings
Walk through Paris.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haussmann%27s_renovation_of_Paris
They rebuilt, redesigned the Paris and made it what gives it this incredible mid to late 19th century and early 20th century feel that the most beautiful cities in Europe have. e.g. Barcelona, Wien, Munich

.... I think main reason why I have this negative view of modern architecture is that there is so much crap out there that when it really sucks it sticks out like a sore thumb (since it is so different) amongst often more beautiful architecture.
Best example is the Centre Pompidou. Absolutely disgusting and stands out.

One of the things why I personally really don't like it is that it is like much modern art very minimal and often seem to dwell in it.
With something like pic related (the Palais de Justice in Brussels) I can go there multiple times and see differnet carvings, statues, notice columns that have a style from a different era than when it was built.
It is very eclectic which modernism avoids like the plague.

>>2599584
Back then manual labour and ressources were cheap.

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>>2599638
Most of humanities greatest creations occured through the suffering of many people.

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>>2599277
>>2599584
but there is obviously a lot of really good modern art without a doubt

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>>2599584
also want to say that Brussels is a great city not just culturly but with great variety of impressive architecture.
Definetly should visit it before CNN scares you from visiting the next muslim capital.

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>>2599690
Yeah, but I don't blame people if they're trying to avoid suffering. But now, with modern technologies and progress in terms of productivity, there's no reason not to return to more elaborate designs.

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>>2599735
>modern technologies and progress in terms of productivity, there's no reason not to return to more elaborate designs.
I think it is a lot more that it would cause unnecessary large amounts of money that people aren't as willing to spend since there aren't royalties who believe they have unlimited funds to create the most magnificent building in the world. But America did really good with that imo.
the national mall and all the buildings around it in washington DC are really beautiful and impressive for being built by a republic while never having a single dominant figure and being fairly modern.
The US capitol is a really impressive building


Not like nowadays the tallest glas house...

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>>2599718
belgium in general has a lot of good 19th century architecture resulting from the combination of the at the time young country having a need for monuments of its own and the fact during the second half of the 19th century the country was extremely wealthy

shame a lot of the buildings have suffered from ill maintenance over the years

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>>2591510
why does the right tower shorter than the left, they call twin towers, one would expects they are similar in size

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#ruinporn

>>2599834
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFTgkibl7DU&t=30s

Describe your ideal city or town, architecture-wise.

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>>2599902

>>2599902
White people and historical buildings

>>2599923
STOP

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>>2599822
>the second half of the 19th century the country was extremely wealthy
Germans ruined Belgium economy and infrastructur during the first world war and ruined Eastern Europe and much of its self during the second one.
To imagine how incredible Europe would look if wars of that scale never had plundered through the continent.
>>2592368
>>2592362

>>2599923
oh fuck yes

>>2599902
/OldGeorgianArchitectureMasterRace/

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>>2599902
City:
culture, people, life(i):
Berlin in the 1920
City(ii):
Munich without the modern areas and overpopulated suburbs and immense amounts of tourists and foreigners so propably munich in the 1920 without communist and nationalists.

Town:
i)
Very rural, farmers with local church couple Inns and bars with one train station going through it at most every other hour and many local ponds, marshes, rivers and lakes.
ii)
pic related

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>>2591063

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I was just in Manhattan. There are some gems buried in the glass utopia. Granted, a cathedral will more often than not be beautiful.

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>>2600210
>utopia
I meant dystopia. Is there a single aesthetic skyscraper?

>>2594872
Concept artist, desu

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>>2599902

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>>2600389

>is there a single aesthetic skyscraper

the Chrysler building, the empire state building, the cathedral of learning, the flatiron building, Tribune Tower...

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>>2600415
I actually find the Empire State Building bland, but the Chrysler Building is one of the few examples of aesthetic Art Deco. It didn't deserve to get bullied by all those taller buildings.

>>2600424
Inside is also ver interesting. It has a really Bioshock feelingg to it inside.

>>2591492

...jews and nigras?

>>2593044

But what the fuck can you DO there?
Gamble?
Work in an office?

Boring.

>>2600485

Well, since I'd only be there for the afternoon, I suppose I'd visit a shop, or a newspaper stand, I have plenty of old silver dollars to use.

I'd take in the sights, sit and read at a bench while watching this wonderfully lively world gaily go about its hustling and bustling.

>>2600508
same
Eventhough I would also love to spend the night there as well to get the experience of the whole day and how different times of the day affect the city's life.

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>>2599822
belgium's 19th century architecture is shit, and a blight. just a bunch of mass-produced and uninspired "throwback" architecture mixed with crummy industrial-era cheap crumbling brick rowhousing (with the exception of some art nouveau and art deco gems)

16-18th century is where you'll find all the good stuff

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>>2600780
Imagine if that would hae been taken care of and cleaned regularly.
It would look really great.
Also the center building is stone which was expensive unlike brick.

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Post cool buildings from your town, village, city, or whatever

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I'm glad that Christian IV was such a big fan of Dutch renaissance architecture.

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>>2591582
>>2591990
>>2591993
>>2592362
>>2600210
>>2600415
>Gothshit architecture

Why do people like this trash? It looks absolutely disgusting and barbarian.

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>gothic

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eco-brutalism!

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>>2600929
>>2600961
Well excuuuuuuuuuuuuse me

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>>2600858
Ooh. I can actually post this now.

>>2600402
I have considered something like that. Just draw out architectural ideas, put it on the open internet and just hope that people notice and become influenced by it.

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>>2600838
the fuck are you talking about faggot, its in perfectly fine condition and does look great?

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>>2599902

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>>2601408

>>2601424
>>2601408

nice pictures

quaint town

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Find a more aesthetic city than Edinburgh.

>hint: you can't

The only truly, unredeemably ugly building in the entire city is the fucking new parliament building. I hate everyone who had a hand in that building and they should probably be shot.

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>>2601549

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>>2601550

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>>2601554

>tfw used to walk this street every day for years

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>>2601556

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>>2601557

Also home to the most aesthetic cottage in Britain

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>>2601561

>tfw going back in September

>>2601549
Yessssss

>>2599277
You're completely ignoring the philosophies behind modernist/post-modernist architecture. Those earlier styles, for all their blandness, were still designed, by necessity, at a human scale and with the entire milieu in mind. Modernists plop down a 14-story high rise in the middle of a forest and call it a suburb. They hide the functions of buildings behind glass walls and suck the life out of the street. They also build absolutely HUGE and monolithic, completely dwarfing and alienating the normal person. Plus urban planning around the car.

>>2594872
Terrorism

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Adana, Cilician Armenia 1918 after the French Liberated it- later destroyed by Turkish pigs who now occupy it.

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I really like the Alpirsbach monastery

>>2599584
Haussmannian Paris is literally as architecturally stimulating as the average commieblock. It was meant to be uniform mass-produced background housing in one predominant style to give a corridor for landmarks like the Paris Opera. His legacy directly resulted in the 20th century urban renewal that brought about widespread imposing Modernist urbanity. Today, the approach is a lot more contextual and sensitive because it embodies values of Western democracies, unlike in places like China.

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>>2602098
I like the Bebenhausen monastery even better

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>>2599584
What the fuck is going on there, what a clusterfuck. I don't think architecture is supposed to look like a bunch of random blocks slapped together. Should've posted this one instead.

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I really really enjoy Victorian architecture, it's a nice mix between ancient and modern for me.

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>>2602370
Wow, really nice. I might take a trip there sometime.

Do you live nearby or something? Because I've never heard of it.

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>tfw the gommies ruined China

>>2601549
Weren't they considering tearing down everything and replacing it all with modernist brutalist trash?

>>2602267
>Haussmannian Paris is literally as architecturally stimulating as the average commieblock

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>>2602533

Yup. The city council are a bunch of absolute cunts who are constantly trying to ruin things. They keep getting voted out but every once in a while assholes are present in sufficient numbers to push some harebrained project through. Last time they put in a tram system that absolutely no one wanted due to a perfectly adequate bus system because tearing up streets and putting in shiny new trains looks more modern. The cabbies were griping about it for years.

pic is similar; it's the clusterfuck of a parliament building they put in. I hate having to see this bloody thing whenever I go up on the crags.

>>2600470

of course not,

ask yourself who fucked up china?

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Medieval Bulgarian architecture. Lots of decorative elements by combining bricks with stone and mosaics. A lot of flying buttresses and arches and niches that don't correspond with the interior. Bonus objective: save for a few examples here and there it doesn't exist.

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>>2602522
>tfw the gommies saved China by advancing architecture

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>>2602499
I'm from Germany and there's plenty to discover here, and Medieval monasteries have something special about them in particular.

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>>2603453

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>>2603276
>A lot of flying buttresses
Only the largest churches recquire flying buttresses, this one doesn't have any (St. Paul in London has them, too, but they're hidden)

Pic related is just your average bland central-european architecture.

>>2599277
>some buildings (such as pic related) look to many observers like they could have been built yesterday
looks like it was built in the 50's/60's desu senpai

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>>2603615
no cheating, maybe it is a trick or maybe not...
guess when this was built.
Hint: it wasn't built in the 60's or 50's

>>2603586
yeah had a brain fart there for a moment mean a completely different thing.

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>>2603276
>>2603586
Another example this time a defensive
donjoun-like tower.

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>>2603586
Reminder that flying buttresses are a design failure. One of the many reasons why traditional Gothic architecture is shit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Cathedral

>The commitment to reject traditional Gothic buttresses had been made when Neri di Fioravanti's model was chosen over a competing one by Giovanni di Lapo Ghini.[9] That architectural choice, in 1367, was one of the first events of the Italian Renaissance, marking a break with the Medieval Gothic style and a return to the classic Mediterranean dome. Italian architects regarded Gothic flying buttresses as ugly makeshifts. Furthermore, the use of buttresses was forbidden in Florence, as the style was favored by central Italy's traditional enemies to the north

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>>2600858

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>>2600858

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Where i live has some nice architecture dotted about.

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Ghent reporting in

>>2591532
goat fucker detected

Thanks for the thread

>>2591576
two big rectangles? great architecture

>>2599943
>>>/pol/

>>2591988
>>2591990
>>2591993

Catholic style is disgusting, Im glad we kicked them out.

>>2601394
Oudenaarde?

>>2601408
>>2601424
What a shame

>>2601554
>Edinburgh, Grassmarket
Market for grass?

>>2595038
beniss:DDD

>>2604028
negenduust
Shame they removed the houses at the cathedral. Seems like they made the surrounding houses more medieval than they ever were by the looks of it

>>2604653
Probably.
But also "market that is on grass".

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>>2603845
Oh yeah, this place is totes a design failure.

>>2604750
lack of money reather

>>2604787
rather

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>>2603845
Oh look, it's the butthurt shitalian again

>>2604028

shame they didn't level the whole lot to widen the roads and make modern highrises

>>2604950
kys

>>2605909

If I had a quid for all the shabby, run down, brick huts from the industrial revolution I have to wend my way through...

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>>2600389
You bet your ass there is and I live right under it. It's also one of our towns running jokes.

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>>2601317
Florida senpai is that you? Looks like some of the stuff in St. Augustine but I don't recognize that skyscraper. I also haven't been to St. Augustine in a long while.
>>2601574
Building name?
>>2602529
Love the Moroccan stuff, huge fan of the interior courtyard design

>>2600929
most of what is posted here is neogotshit though

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Not sure if I like this or not.

>>2599902
Red Brick Gothic 4 story houses, mixed with giant glass skyscrapers in the business district.

And red brick churches. Especially.

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>>2606243

neogothic is THE SHIT, I believe you were intending to say

>>2606267
new worlder pls go, this abomination is bleeding my eyes out

>>2606283

>flat city lander

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>>2606267

>>2606300
>no cultural identity lander
the toilet i shit on is probably older than your city

>>2606328

a toilet, now there's an apt representation for your culture's legacy

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>>2606327

look upon my works and learn you pleb

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Can I offer you can egg in this trying time?

>>2606348
>can
an* fuck my life

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Lots of people criticizing stuff, so I'll ask this here: what do you guys think about Milan's Cathedral which took almost 600 years to build? It has received some very mixed critical reception from people.

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>>2606356
More pictures to judge.

>>2606356

very spiky

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>>2606361

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>>2606365

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>>2606366

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>>2606372

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>>2606267

here's another angle of it, I'm thinking perhaps someone thinks that it's joined to the structure you see adjacent to the road

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>>2606383

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>>2606397
This thing is so fucking enormous.

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>>2606404

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>>2606356
>>2606361
>>2606365
>>2606366
>>2606372
>>2606383
>>2606397
>>2606404
>>2606411

Okay, done. Please be the judge now. Is it shit or not?

>>2606420

it's extremely ornate, that's for sure

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>>2606392
>>2606340
>>2606267

going in

>>2598231
>Should the modern era we live in not have developed its own architectural forms reflecting the nature of society
And its values and more. But guess what, we do it and it's a big, ugly, soulless piece of garbage.

>>2606420
Feels like I might get shot with an arrow by some knights in silver armor.

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>>2603845
What a stupid cathedral. The whole point of Gothic design inventions was to allow windows to get bigger so the interior could be better illuminated. Now look at those tiny-ass windows on the Duomo... embarassing

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Stand back plebeians, the Eastern Empire has this shit.

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timber-frame masterrace

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Ultimate /comfy/

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>>2606677
>The church is particularly notable for its 44 stained glass windows, the largest undertaking of this kind in Italy in the 14th and 15th century. The windows in the aisles and in the transept depict saints from the Old and the New Testament, while the circular windows in the drum of the dome or above the entrance depict Christ and Mary. They are the work of the greatest Florentine artists of their times, such as Donatello, Lorenzo Ghiberti, Paolo Uccello and Andrea del Castagno.

44 windows is more than enough to illuminate the interior even if they're not big.

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I can't fathom these were built tens of thousands of years ago, and still stand.

>>2607457
sorry, nearly 5,000. not tens.

>>2591416
where is the photo from ?

>>2593044
I like that you can walk places. The car is simultaneously among the best and worst inventions ever conceived.

>>2599902
Stormhold from skyrim is pretty comfy

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>>2591063
Phoenician architecture... so noble... so pure

>>2607601
Stormhold is a city in Argonia, pleb.

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>>2599584
>I think main reason why I have this negative view of modern architecture is that there is so much crap out there that when it really sucks it sticks out like a sore thumb (since it is so different) amongst often more beautiful architecture.
>Best example is the Centre Pompidou. Absolutely disgusting and stands out.

Pompidou is hi-tech, which while often categorised as modernist was actually a reaction to the modernist philosophy. When I talk about modernism I'm referring to the works such as those designed by Corbusier, Van der Rohe, Niemayer, and to a lesser extent Frank Lloyd-Wright

>It is very eclectic which modernism avoids like the plague.

that's what postmodernism is for laddy :^)

>>2601982
>They hide the functions of buildings behind glass walls

The modernist philosophy was defined by 'form follows function' and these great glass walls were designed to to hide functions but to expose them. Contrast Van de Rohe's work with your average 19th century office building where everything is hidden behind columns and decor.

>were still designed, by necessity, at a human scale

Corbusier literally created a unit of measure based around the human scale and used it in his work. The problem came when people who didn't properly understand modernism built the monolithic and cheap hack jobs that people came to associate the movement with.

>Plus urban planning around the car.

this is a valid point, urban planning is where the modernist movement is at its weakest.

>>2601490
>quaint
I love that word

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>modernism su-

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>>2608266
>Corbusier literally created a unit of measure based around the human scale and used it in his work. The problem came when people who didn't properly understand modernism built the monolithic and cheap hack jobs that people came to associate the movement with.

Riiiight

Modern architecture is made of metal which looks soulless compared to stone building material.

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>The Palácio Monroe was a monumental hall in the Centro neighbourhood in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. It was originally built in St. Louis to act as the Brazilian Pavilion during the 1904 World's Fair. Following the World's Fair, the building was dismantled and transported in cargo ships to Rio de Janeiro, where it was rebuilt in 1906. Its grand opening at the 3rd Pan-American Conference was held on July 23, 1906. From 1914 to 1920, the palace was used as the home of the Brazilian Congress. From 1925 to 1960 it was used as home to the Brazilian Senate. On October 11, 1975, the Brazilian president Ernesto Geisel authorised the building's demolition. The decision was contrary to the Rio de Janeiro State's decision declaring the building an Official Landmark in 1974.

>>2607463

I'm sure muslims will get them at some point

>>2608419
ya it actualy still sucks senpai

>>2595445
my blood still boils when I think about what the sandniggers did to those marvels

>>2595475
the more I look at minoan 'palace' design and read about their palace economy system the more it seems to me like those 'palace's where just really compressed cities or maybe ancient appartments

>>2597935
>Beautiful
but that's an ugly ass building

>>2604638
antwerp city hall

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>>2591063
Let us continue with unusual ancient architecture, my friends.

Baalbek or, as it was called back in the days, Heliopolis and it's extensive temple grounds.

>>2608543

their race deserves to be extinguished from human record

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>>2608571
This temple of Venus in Baalbek is one of the finest surviving examples of the so-called "hellenistic (or ancient) baroque" style, and indeed, the ancient forms reflect the late Baroque in a fascinating manner.

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>>2608577
Porta Maggiore in Rome. Notice the unusual form of the columns - the architect was obviously experimenting.

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>>2608580
Also in Rome, the triumphal arch of the two-faced Ianus - the two-faced nature is reflected in the architecture of the triumphal arch by binding itself to three other archs, thus forming a unique 4-gated arch standing right at the crossroads.

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>>2608585
This one is pretty unique. Not only were bricks used in bulding this tomb of Annia Regilla, you can also see the strange, polygonal shape of the columns, which are one with the wall of the building, actually.
That's some major academic experiment right here.

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>>2608592
Ephesus and the library of Celsius. Also pretty baroque, if you ask me.

>>2608592
>>2608585
>>2608580
>>2608577

shame there really isn't any wholly pristine roman structure

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>>2608597
A Punic monument in Dougga in Northern Africa, of course. Coming to us straight from the Carthaginian times, it reflects the presumed influence of Hellenistic architecture on the Punic civilization, whose culture is lost to us in the ages and whose architecture was violated by the Romans, except for a few surviving examples.

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>>2608602
>>2608605
This is not so much architecture, but engineering - a fascinating Roman mill in Barbegal in southern France. It is truly a testament to Roman engineering skill.

>>2608602
Depends on your definition of pristine.

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>>2608619
Now this one is a bomb - the Roman town of Baiae was something of a bathing and sunbathing areal for the Romans and is host to some awesome, small-scaled architecture.

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>>2608555
No, it's not. It's finished in 1930 and one of the first examples of modern architecture in the Netherlands.

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>>2608626
>>2608626
Another one from Baiae, straight up fascinating stuff it would be if I had the reconstruction I saw once on hand - basically, according to the reconstruction, this "temple of Venus" (actually a bath) was more or less an example of organic architecture - the Romans were way ahead, on level with Le Corbusier.

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>>2608663
The Tetrapylon in Aphrodisias. Pretty much baroque, isn't it?

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>>2608673
The temple of Romulus in Rome, though it is not of the Romulus we all know. The bronze door is originally ancient, friends.

I'm done.

>>2608679
thanks

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Question: does most of Porta Nigra's current structure actually date to Roman times? It looks better than most early-mid medieval architecture imo.

>>2608659

Not that guy but what you've just posted here is clearly a hideous building and there's no valid way for you to argue that it isn't. The lines are too busy and are often "cute" just for the sake of being cute, something that Wright did all the time. Nor do the opinions of contemporary architects/culture-makers matter, nor too does whatever historical importance the building have matter, when all that's under discussion is whether or not a clearly hideous building is in point of fact hideous. The next step is for you to simply concede the point, and not argue back.

>>2608659

Also, you should know better than to argue with another anon's Trips Of Truth.

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>>2608717
Just look it up on wikipedia. In Medieval times, the gate was transformed into a church. In the 19th century the romanesque alterations were removed.

>>2606846

Star Wars Episode I doesn't count anon

>>2608717
>>2608736
The chancel (left-most portion) looks like part of the church, the rest of it looks roman

>>2608717
I think what stands today is msotly from Roma times. Trier has a lot of Roman stuff. Pretty cool visit tbqh

>>2608717
>>2608717
More or less, it surely underwent some changes later on, however.

Also, I sadly cannot find the link, but archeologists in middle Italy just recently found a St. Pauls-sized building reminiscent of the Pergamon Altar, Roman baroque as well, it seems.

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>>2608756
But the architects obviously didn't care about a wholesome design. Why would they restore a single part and completely alter the rest? Also material coherence. What makes you even doubt the originality of it in the first place?

>pic related is more Roman junk in Trier

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>>2608717
Arch of Constantine >>> Porta Nigra

That one I'm sure it's mostly the same as it was back then. It was just restored a bit when it got damaged.

>>2593044

This

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>>2591063
>still no Koeln Dom
I fucking love the Dom

>>2608722
I'm not even him, but,
>JUST ACCEPT THAT MY OPINIONS ARE FACTS AND THAT YOURS ARE OBJECTIVELY WRONG, PLEB
Post disregarded.

>>2608565
Ja dus niet

>>2608953
Shame it's the only old thing in the whole of the city, doesn't really belong there anymore

>>2608717
I live not far from Trier myself (just not in Germany), but that's irrelevant for this question.

It was a church and when something is a church the Catholic church spends money on it to maintain it, just like the Curia Iulia.

>>2591990
I love this architecture despite it giving off a kinky sadistic vibe to it

>>2607485
Dubrovnik, Croatia

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>whites can never be on the same architectural level as us Turks

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>tfw this existed some months ago

Well, pretty much every single town in Italy is "historic", but still pretty sad.

>>2609314
That used to be a church and was converted into a mosque....

>>2609385
WE WUZ BUILDERZ OF THA HAGIA SOPHIA N SHIEEET
Hagia Sophia was built by Mehmed II after he conquered Constantinople.
If it was once a church, then why is it built like a mosque?

>>2609421
fuck of retard

>>2609427
t. Butthurt Yuropoor

>>2599834
because one is farther away from the camera moron

>>2609421
Quality bait m8t. 9/10

>>2609445
>bait
>Eurotards are this delusional

>>2609455
That building is older than your religion you retard

>>2609486
>Islam was founded after 1453

>>2606492
>Feels like I might get shot with an arrow by some knights in silver armor.
>archers
>wearing plate armor
>knights
>shooting arrows

>>2609504
Do you get off of shitposting?
No seriously, don't you have anything better to do with your time other than shitpost on a thread other people might enjoy?

>>2606420

the whole complex is so ornate and overstimulating, I wonder if it's in danger of making one forget about the glory of God

>>2606965
Fucking Freiburg, man. I miss it.

>>2608659
early modernism is best modernism

>>2608673
>>2608577
this is really interesting, i've never heard of this "ancient baroque" stuff, but after looking at it thats exactly how I would describe it. do you have any more examples?

>>2609051

In other words, all you've really said of my above post is that it says "I'm right, and you're wrong", which is what all of argumentation boils down to. You want to dismiss argumentation and rhetoric in general in order to dismiss me (you can't), yet on some level you're smart enough to know that you can't really do that. Meanwhile, you ascribe to me a claim to objectivity where there literally was none, and you also conveniently ignore the supporting arguments for why the dogshit hideous building in Holland really is a dogshit hideous building in Holland, as previously stated.

Since all of that flopped, try instead arguing the thing on its own real merits: the supposed beauty or ugliness of the building. There's no side to come down on except for its ugliness. All it takes, is to look at it.

>>2610912
you are legitimately autistic

>>2610946

Notice that (assuming you're the above poster, or even not) you still can't argue the thing on its own merits. Go back to the above building and look at it and explain why it's so beautiful or be quiet.

>>2606420
Shit.
Mainly because it fails at what gothic style should be about, which is light. Look, >>2606411
they have to light the inside with artificial light, that's a failure.

>>2597971
thats zentraal station you huge faggot it does exist

>>2607457
where are these?

>>2609656
They were trying to say that it looks like anor londo from dark souls.

>>2610889
In architecture? Not much is preserved, really. I might as well use the Pergamon Altar as an example, because it counts. In sculpture, a lot of Hellenistic sculptures can easily be classified as baroque - Laocoon and his sons are classified that way by today's scholars.
It's kind of an irony, assuming Winckelmann hated Baroque and considered it decadent, but loved Laocoon. Yet today's scholars classify Laocoon as a Hellenistic baroque sculpture.

It's a prime example of convergent evolution, though not much is left of the ancient baroque.

>>2611449
No, it's not. It's a design of a stock exchange that was never built. I'm from Amsterdam myself, so I think I would have known if it was not.

>>2611449
>>2612410
But a part of Centraal* Station is on the picture as well, just on a smaller scale.

>>2594872

I plan on becoming an urban real estate developer for those exact reasons.

>>2595866
this...i feel like all of the absurdly tall skyscrapers are just capitalism being "look at my big dick" ....trhe whole international contest to build the biggest and tallest is just a dick size contest with no substance to it

>>2612557

why would one wish to build millions of square feet of office space in one of the most sought after markets in the globe

surely this is just a dick size contest

>>2601993
kek

>>2606356
>>2606420
Real fuckin neato. Lombardia is the most Germanic region of Italy. It is also the best

>>2607105
Fuck yes
Eastphalia is the best

>>2610961
I'm >>2609051, and >>2610946 isn't me. With that out of the way, the only thing I was doing with my post was calling you out on how you presented your opinions as facts, something that's almost as obnoxious as postmodern strip-malls made of EIFS and plastic. I never stated my own opinions on the building (which I think would be "alright-ish" if it weren't for a few features that are just absolutely retarded), and I don't care about the actual argument that was taking place.
>you ascribe to me a claim to objectivity where there literally was none
What kind of brain-damage are we dealing with here? Does,
>a clearly hideous building is in point of fact hideous
just not exist anymore, or what? You have me confused on an entirely different level, Anon.
>There's no side to come down on except for its ugliness
And congratulations on doing the exact same thing RIGHT AFTER stating that you never presented your opinions as facts.

>>2607105
to bad the whole lot is 50 years old at best

>>2614156

a sign of a lively and vibrant culture

>>2614156
Mostly Renaissance and Baroque, it's a small city and wasn't bombed in WWII

>>2612800
>Lombardia is the most Germanic region of Italy
ambrogino pls

>>2615991
It even takes its name from the Lombard/Langobard tribe

>>2615991
Where do you claim it to be? the south?