Worst US presidents

He's generally ranked in or just outside of the top 10 by most historians and presidential scholars.

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>>2591054
He ranks right next to Obama The Great.

Excluding the incumbent, some order of Fillmore, Tyler, Buchanan, A. Johnson, Hayes, Coolidge, Hoover, Reagan, Bush II.

It goes Buchanan, then Harding, then Johnson, then power gap.

>after that it's Reagan

>>2591112
>Reagan, LBJ, Wilson, and Obama ranked higher than Polk, Adams, Jackson, Coolidge, and McKinley
who made this shit

>>2591047
Only retards think Wilson is anything other than absolutely based. Fucking shame the Libertarians and Commies direct discussion on this board and he managed to assfuck both of them so well in his own time.

>>2591180
Coolidge belongs in the trash, fucking faggot not realizing the economic and political authority of the government evolved with the times.

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>>2591047

Drumpf

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>>2591180
>Be president
>Greatest financial calamity of all time immediately follows your presidency
> Escape all blame

Really makes me think

>>2591308

Why, that Indian is so small it can fit in my cupboard!

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Woodrow Wilson is by far one of the greatest presidents we ever had. He made some serious mistakes, but I still believe modern America how we love it today would not exist without his foresight and wisdom. He was the right man for the time: He made the decisions no one else would for good.

>>2591318
holy shit those teeth..never realized

>>2591325
Think about it: Back then, almost all teeth looked like that.

>>2591054
Those lists are by Modern day Democrats, Liberals and Socialists, of fucking course when he set in forth both.

>>2591318
>but I still believe modern America how we love it today would not exist without his foresight and wisdom
>how we love it today
>love
That's the problem, United States of European Union-istan is shit in every way that it is because of his actions.

He's akin to Lincoln in violating the Constitution and the intentions of the Founding Fathers.

>>2591331
it must have been extremely painful

>>2591047
he's an alumni of my fraternity and I hate his fucking guts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_Act

>>2591486
>>2591585
What's so bad about having a central bank? Most countries already had one.
>inb4 muh illuminati

>>2591488
For you

>>2591664
>most countries
There's your problem, turncoat.

>>2591047
Am I the only one who thinks that he looks like H.P. Lovecrafts dad?

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>>2591727
>Am I the only one who thinks that he looks like H.P. Lovecrafts dad?
yes

>>2591047
Wilson is what made america the leading superpower and global hegemon you fucking retard

>>2591766
Dude.... I meant he could be his dad I know that his dad doesn't look like Wilson.

Have some decency.

>>2591664
they don't understand economics for the most part

>>2592182
The fuck he did. Or the fuck his wife did, who ruled behind his back. Guy's a literal cuck and the worst president prior to Obama.

>>2591047
why do people hate him so much?
what did he actually do that was apparently so devastating?

>>2591112
Polk should switch places with Eisebhower

>>2594042
Well for one he got 160k american citizens killed or maimed for really no good reason aside from how he wanted to help the British out.
Then there's how he used the first world war to grab a shit load of unconstitutional power and push through laws which never should have seen light of day.

>>2594325
can he be said to be responsible for the arms we found on lusitania?

>>2591688
>every idea that happens outside muh cuntREE should be contained at mah borders

>>2594325
So nothing particularly bad then

>>2592195
a lot of americans in 19th century pictures look very similar with a particular kind of beaky nose

>>2594353
>got the US into a pointless war and used said pointless war as a justification for shitting all over the Constitution
>not that bad
reeeeeeee~

>>2594360
If constitutional powers don't change with the times the system will collapse.
And entering ww1 was just basic power politics. Do you think Wilson actually believed his shit abou freedom and self determination?

>>2591112
>Abraham Lincoln higher than George Washington.

>>2594360

And how, pray tell, did he "violate the constitution"?

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>>2591047
At least he didn't gift half o Europe to commies

>>2591670
Why did you have to fuck it up

>>2591047
Well, of course. He's the only President who earned a Ph.D (http://www.state.nj.us/nj/about/famous/presidents.html), so he was secretly under the control of the universities.

>>2591314
I understood that reference.

Every time I fill out my income tax, I curse Wilson

>>2591480
>wilson
>socialist
you just went full retard.

>>2591318
Woodrow ruined our country by swapping campaign financing for the federal reserve act!

>>2595507
should we make another thread about why the federal reserve sucks?

>>2591318
8/10 Nice bait

>>2594377
>If constitutional powers don't change with the times the system will collapse.

So by that logic, literally any kind of constitutional amendment is permissible in the future. Nigga are you retarded?

>>2595536
>literally any kind of constitutional amendment is allowed
Where's the problem

George W. Bush
Barack Obama
Donald J. Trump
Woodrow Wilson
George Washington

>>2591054
Well it's a good thing there is absolutely zero political biases in modern academia

>>2595613
>scholars who spend their lives studying these things are invalid cause they disagree with me

>>2591047
Wilson was racist.

And not just racist in the "everyone was racist back then" way. He was unusually racist by the standards of the day. Look it up.

>>2595536

>literally any kind of constitutional amendment is permissible in the future.

You realize this is literally true, right? The constitution has no limitations on what amendments can be passed, except that it requires a very large number of votes in both federal and state legislatures. So while the process for amending the Constitution is quite strenuous, there are no limitations on what amendments can actually be passed if you're able to get the votes to do it.

>>2591325
He was Southern

>>2591112
>LBJ
the fuck man

>>2594453
The sedition act of 1918 springs to mind
As do the palmer raids

>>2592182
This is objectively correct.

Before Wilson the USA was an insignificant country that most people in Europe probably hadn't even heard of. There had been no expansion of it's economy, population, geographic size, or military power whatsoever in the 19th Century

>>2594248
Polk is a meme

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>>2591047

How come nobody ever talks about these guys? Did nothing happen when they were in office?

>>2595619
>Implying there are biases in academia is akin to saying there is no value in academia whatsoever
It's almost as if the very thing I was criticising was people who have a lack of nuance

>>2595634
>deporting foreigners
>unconstitutional

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>>2595637

>>2595652
Polk is talked about; at this point his a way to signal that you know a bit about US history

WHH died really fast

The rest were shit

>>2595654
Do you were just ~implying~ that we should ignore them because they disagree with you, sorry for the mix up

>>2595634
>The sedition act of 1918 springs to mind

The Founding Fathers passed their own sedition act in 1798. Is that one unconstitutional too? And let's not forget that the Supreme Court upheld it in Abrams v United States.

>Palmer raids

Wilson rebuked Palmer for it, cost him a lot of standing in the party and essentially stopped the guy's political career.

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>>2591112

>Implying

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>>2591047

>Van Buren

>>2595652
>be harrison
>get elected in the most perfect election in US history
>the highest turnout yet
>the whole population is dutifully getting involved in the political process
>whig party wins with a clear platform
>die after your inauguration
>your VP tyler goes full reactionary autist and declares that his status as president is mandate for his actions separate from popular opinion
>vetoes everything congress tries to pass
>whig party never recovers
>turnout goes back down to apathetic levels

>>2595699
Tyler was disowned by his own party WHILE HE WAS STILL IN OFFICE. The whigs nominated another candidate and Tyler decided he was going to run for re-election on his own.

>>2595716
Wow. I can't imagine a situation occurring today where an incumbent President has people who don't like him inside his own party

>>2595676
Why is FDR ranked so high for conservatives?

>>2595721

kind of gives you hope we can recover

>>2595729

Because he openly detested niggers.

>>2595721
It's one thing to have detractors and another for the entire party to say "you're not representative of us and we want nothing to do with you and we just nominated a new candidate even though you're still in office and expressed an interest in running for reelection".

>>2595747
You're distorting the whole episode, for lack of knowledge I hope. John Tyler iic had only JUST changed over from the democratic party. He was known and proved in practice to have very little stomach for whig ideas and was a Democrat in all but name. The Democrats came to reject him to though cause they saw his party switch as a betrayal to the party. The only reason he was chosen as the VP candidate, however, was out of political calculation to draw certain demographics iirc. Nobody in their wildest dreams could have imagined Harrison dying so abruptly

>>2595900
Also I'm also simplifying it a bit. If you read about Tyler you'd also know that he was a shitty politician who pissed everyone off.

>>2595683
>Van Buren
>creates modern party system
>master manipulator
>achieves his keikaku by deft political maneuvering
>inherits his predecessor's wreckage of the federal finance system
>nobody knew how to fix slumps so he was blamed for it

>>2594845
It was a fait accompli retard. Stalin already occupied it and there was no way he was gonna retreat without setting off another land war, which Stalin was more prepared for than the US or the UK

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Truman

you don't get a 24 percent approval rating for nothin'

>>2591112
>Obama
>Ranking no.12
>Overall Rankings 2009-2000 =0
>2017 out of nowhere
Niggers tung my anus

>>2591112
jefferson sucks
aside from the louisiana purchase which literally every president would do, he was pretty fucking retarded in office
>muh self-imposed embargo

>>2591480
dems hate wilson because of his racism

>>2595963
>The one Truman.
>The one Trumpan.
>The one Trump an.
>The one Trump Man.

My god. It's happening again.

>>2591480
>Socialists ever liking Wilson after what he did to Eugene Debs

>>2596095
>95% chance of Clinton victory

my God

ITS

HAPPENING

>>2595729
WWII.

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>>2596064
>disband the army and turn it into a science and frontier exploration crew because armies are antithetical to liberty and nobody would ever attack the USA anyways
>your sidekick madison attacks britain right after you leave office with your support

It is a miracle that the USA survived the war of 1812.

>>2591047
wouldn't say he's the worst but I wouldn't say he's all that great either

if you aren't a WASP then he probably doesn't like you
if he gotten us into WWI earlier he would be on the same level as Pasha and Hotzendorf in "being an opportunistic shit that destroyed his country"

I went to his horse once as a college field trip he had an awesome kangaroo-skinned coat and two black servants who were named, I shit you not, Issac and Maria.

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>>2595932

His wife was also a qt.

>>2593994
>punk on 4chan thinks he know the economy better than most countries that actually work with it

Millennial

>>2595671
>The Founding Fathers passed their own sedition act in 1798. Is that one unconstitutional too?

yeah it kinda was
note how the Federalist party didn't have a president after Addams

>>2595652
they had one fucking job "make the North and South get along" and they fucked it up

Antebellum presidents are fucking worthless (except Polk who was basically Jackson 2.0)

Also Garfield to Harrison don't get talked about much either

>>2595729
he made America great the first time

>>2595963
truly a vindicated man

>unsegregated the army which was a dick move back then but his well loved now
>fired MacArthur who was a sad story back then but people now believe he would get us a nuclear war

only problem is he caused the Cold War

>>2598338

Unpopular doesn't equal unconstitutional anon. Perhaps you could cite to a SCOTUS opinion somewhere about how it was unconstitutional.

>>2598360

>Also Garfield to Harrison don't get talked about much either

They kind of died shortly after taking office. There's not much to talk about.

>>2598391
>only problem is he caused the Cold War
Absurd. The Cold War was the result of natural contention between two superpower hegemons with divergent interests and adversarial ideologies who could never be so sure of the other's intentions.

Truman certainly didn't conjure it himself.

>>2598443
>>2595671
>it's constitutional because the president says it is

constitution wouldn't last long if such a bullshit justification was valid

it violates the 1st amendment therefore unconstitutional

>>2598325
Most economists agree in the benefits of a federal reserve system
Only meme schools like the Austrians hate them

>>2591318
>those Anglo teeth
It all makes sense now...

>>2594325
Ironically Theodore Roosevelt felt Woodrow Wilson was the worst president BECAUSE he took so long to get America involved quickly enough to resolve the war.

A man too moral and optimistic to be a good leader. That said, If his vision had been reached in 1919, a second World War probably could have been avoided, or at least reduced.


Italy may have still gone fascist, due to the failure to uphold the Treaty of London, American membership in the League of Nation would have likely deterred their invasion of Ethiopia.

>>2598479

>>it's constitutional because the Supreme Court says it is

FTFY

>it violates the 1st amendment therefore unconstitutional

And what makes you think it does? What are you basing your judgment on how something breaks the 1st on?

>>2591185
>Federal Reserve
>16th amendment
>WWI
>Based
His 14 points were pretty good though

>>2596626
It only survived because more important things were going on in Europe.

Fucking Frenchies save the Americans for a 2nd time.

>>2591664
>What's so bad about having a central bank? Most countries already had one.
So didn't America, but good old Andrew "Indian Axin'" Jackson realized how absolutely retarded it was.

>>2601147
>Jackson realized how absolutely retarded it was
Jackson's antipathy towards the back was less rooted in a sober examination of America's fiscal landscape are more to do with his personal prejudice against banks due to his prior problems with debt.

>>2601164
should say 'bank' instead of 'back'

>>2601164
I didn't knew that it was at least somewhat personal, but I didn't know it was that bad.

Jackson makes Truman look totally level headed and forgiving sometimes.

>>2596064
He navigated the nation's first political party change

>>2601211
Because that was so difficult with Adams' party destroying its own image and Adams himself ruing every minute of the presidency.

>>2591112

Hooooly shit that top 10 is cringe worthy, who the fuck makes this shit?

>truman
You mean the guy who basically started the Cold War with his incompetence?

>kennedy
You mean a literal meme president who's legacy was literally created by his wife to make everyone feel good?

Why the fuck is Polk, Jackson, and Van Buren so low? reeeee

>>2591112
>Reagan in the top 40

Fucking garbage list

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>>2591112

>''''''''historians''''''''''

The absolute state

>>2591112
Nevermind Wilson, why is Obama that high?

>>2595619
>education filters out blights of the soul

>>2591047

Trump is already on track to being the worst within 100 days. It's pretty astounding, really.

>>2601247
>You mean the guy who basically started the Cold War with his incompetence?
Where do people get this idea?
There is no scholar that attributes the responsibility of the Cold War to Truman.

>>2601352
Fuck, I wish he was the worst. I wish he'd destroy this corrupt empire. Nothing is going to change.