ITT: Historical figures who deserved better endings

>>2583613
Phillip II
Pertinax

>inb4 hitler

Trotski

>>2583613
The Romanovs in general

Hector and Achilles were some of the greatest figures in western canon yet they both died from such lame things. I think its cooler sometimes when a hero like Alexander the Great dies then went on to live happily ever after or whatever the fuck.

Even Napoleon started to wish he died in Russia.

alexander the great
>build massive empire from scratch
>collapses cuz generals were cucks

>>2583667
They might not even be remembered as much if they lived out in exile until death. A huge part of their myth was the execution.

>>2583613
Carthage deserved a better ending

>>2583689
This

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You know it to be true

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>>2583698
>>2583689
>>2583613

>>2583689
I couldn't see them ever growing larger though. The best they could have hoped for was becoming a vassal of Rome.

>>2583613
>>2583651
>>2583699
ITT people who got what they deserved.

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>>2583613

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>>2583613

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>>2583613

>>2583883
>As a member of the Socialist Revolutionaries (SRs), Kaplan viewed Lenin as a ‘traitor to the revolution’, when his Bolsheviks banned her party. On 30 August 1918, she approached Lenin as he was leaving a Moscow factory, and fired three shots, badly injuring him. Interrogated by the Cheka, she refused to name any accomplices, and was shot on 3 September. The incident did much to provoke the imminent civil war.

Nah, that fuck deserved everything he got for betraying the workers.

>>2583940
>Didn't get given a piece of the pie
>Says that means he betrayed the revolution
She was just a jealous cunt.

>>2583677
Fuck
If his generals weren't gayer than he was and actually stayed married to those persian babes macedonia would have lasted potentially hundreds of years

Socrates
Cicero
Jesus
Moctezuma, Cuauhtemoc
Atahualpa
Charles II. of Spain (deserved a better everything)
Sitting Bull
Hussein, Sharif of Mecca
Sophie Scholl, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Claus von Stauffenberg
Anne Frank
Patrice Lumumba
Salvador Allende

That's all i can think of for now

>>2584372
Socrates got the ultimate ending. His prophecy that his execution would open more and louder mouths than his was fulfilled

>>2584372
>Anne Frank
You were doing well ... and you jump with this fucking bullshit.

Anyway.

>>2583613
Hitler

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Caracalla. All he wanted was to take a piss

>>2584422
what are you suggesting?
an innocent little girl deserved to be worked to death in a concentration camp?

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>>2583689
>this triggers the Carthaboo

>>2583613
>his people get cucked by the Romans fair and square
>daddy makes him swear an oath to stay forever butt hurt
>crosses the fucking alps with elephants in tow
>crushes Romans using Jew tactics but refuses to march on Rome because >muh Italian allies
>engages in almost 20 years of protracted attritional warfare
>gets cucked by a hotheaded young general
>dies in exile and disgrace

He got exactly what he deserved.

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Hereclius

>>2584488

>Encircling your retarded opponent who literally tried Zerg tactics against you is now a Jewish trick

Hmmmmmmmmm

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>>2584489
that gave me a sensible chuckle

>>2584489
iktf fellow Byzaboo

If only the Romans and the Persians weren't always at each other's throats and hadn't just ended a massively costly war.

That rivalry really did cost the whole world.

>>2584509
Of course, the roach comes to defend the honor of his fellow semites.

>>2584488
dub dubs confirm Hannibal for cuck?

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>>2583613

>>2584489
Pls nerf Khalid ibn al-walid

>>2584488
Can't argue with those dubs. Hannibal's probably is that he was too clever for his own good and out thought himself.

>>2584372
>Cicero
I agree wholeheartedly

Marcus Livius Drusus
Yamamoto

>>2584656
>Marcus Livius Drusus
Gracchus was objectively superior though

>>2584665
Drusus acted more constitutionally. Not saying they were wrong, but the Gracchi kinda had it coming.

>>2583980
Seleucus stayed with his Persian qt and his dynasty held on to Persia and Syria for a decently long time. really activates my almonds

>>2584533
(you)

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>>2583651
He deserved it for causing another damn civil war. Germanicus on the other hand did LITERALLY nothing besides kill germans and fuck his wife and produce shittons of children and be loyal to Tiberius. But then the fucking paranoid Tiberius's orders had to go and poison him and then his son Caligula was sent to Tiberius's rape island and then his wife had to campaign her entire life to try and get retribution. Fuck Tiberius.

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Google the way this man died

>>2583613
Aut Viam Inveniam Aut Faciam

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>>2583613
>ywn hear about a revived Principate in the 4th century

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>>2584456
It really does honestly,

Credit where credit is do Fabius and Scipio knew their shit and knew how to get shit done around Hannibal.

But Carthage and Hannibal still deserved better damn it.

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>When you only fought for freedom then get deposed and your wife and child get captured by a Roman Legate and your son likely dies as a Gladiator

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>>2590346

>and then a statue is erected in your honor on a different continent in the middle of nowhere millennia after the fact

>>2584372
The Austrian emperor of mexico

Joan of arc

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This madman

Marie Antoinette

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Thomas Cromwell

Seneca
Hemingway

decius mus. He should have survived :(

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He did nothing wrong.

>>2584488
He couldn't have taken Rome if he attacked

W A L L S
A
L
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S

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Poor guy probably didn't even have the time to have a proper statue built

>>2594210
KEk

>>2584456
DAMN YOU MAAAASSINISSAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

>>2592146
Truth told. Had Nicolas II listened to him the Tsardom would still exist today. No commies. No nazis. No breakdown of traditional values in the west. Colonies would peacefully transition to independence a mere 20 years later after economic development like Australia and Canada did. The world would be a capitalist playground and everyone would have a share. It is like God was speaking through him.

>>2583613
Carolus Rex

>>2594552
>implying that he didn't get the type of end that he wanted
He probably would have wanted to die actually in battle, but I think it would have been worse if he had died an elderly invalid

>>2584456
delet this pls

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No one posted him yet? Really?

>>2592124

This

He littertaly was the driving force in the English reformation. Henry the 8th fucking betrayed the man that raised him thousands.

Lafayette.

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>>2583613

>>2595407
Ow the edge.

>>2590817
This, he didn't deserve to be executed.

>>2594410
Only if half from what you said was true

>>2595415
Ow the truth

>>2583651
no

>>2594758
I was surprised to read about what happened to him after the Revolutionary War.

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Zenobia

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>>2595494
And Boudica

>>2583613
The Red Barron. AA shot him down, apparently.

>>2595483
What happened to him? Too lazy to google

>>2594764
t. Member of the Iranian diaspora

I agree tho

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>>2584456

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Aurelian did nothing wrong.

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>>2584456

Even the most hardcore Carthageboo can't deny that Zama was truly the zenit of Hannibal's career. It wasn't the decisive victory he planned for, it wasn't the victory against the odds he became legendary for, no, it was the moment that for the first time in his life, he met a worthy rival, a true match for him.

now this one? this one actually had to hurt him.

>>2583689
>FURTHERMORE

>>2583613
>no love for mah man wallenstein
>no love for mah men gustav II adolphus

>>2584422
I wish /pol/ and it's inhabitants just didn't exist

>>2583613
Mussolini and ole' Adolf.

Pyrrhus of Epirus desu

Otto von Bismark

>>2595407
>>>/po/
you have to go back

>>2592152
Elephants CAN melt stone walls

>>2596555
>have elephants
>foiled by gap in the lines

lol hannibal was a hack

>>2596556
DELENDA
E
S
T

>>2592152
>perhaps most crushing defeat in military history up to that point
>Rome still wetting the bed at the thought of another sack
>almost all the upper echelon of officers dead or on the run
>Carthage perfectly capable of building or sending siege equipment

>Hannibal goes for a stroll around Campagnia

>>2597697
>p-pls go back ;_;

>>2592140
why seneca? he died on his own terms in accordance with his philosophy, seems pretty fitting

>>2583689
CARTHAGO DELENDA EST

But all romaboo aside yes, a good part of history was lost with the razing of carthage and it was probably unnecessary.

>>2583613
Spartacus

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F Pyrrhus
Dead by a fucking roof tile
Why do the best men suffer the most undeserving deaths

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>>2584488
This.

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>>2596733
This, Pyrrhus was utterly insane in foreign policy and genius in warfare. Had he lived on 10-20 years longer Greece would have had a wildly different development.

>>2590356

I heard people complained when some Germans wanted to hounour either this guy, or the battle in Teutoburg forest.

>>2597754
Forced to painfully commit suicide.

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The Anglican Church was a mistake.

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>>2594764
right in my feels

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>>2583613

>>2595499
>brutally tortured people in the towns she captured
>cut of breasts and sewed them to their mouths, live impalings, boiling people alive in oil
>all for living in cities under roman control
Wow so brave and such a strong woman
B*udicca got what she deserved, she deserves more desu

All those Russian princes who got crushed or suffocated under Mongol's feasting platform because 'they deserved a death without blood being spilled'.

>>2590200
This. Trying not to be the edgy teen against religion here, but just imagine what he could have done with a 20 year rule.

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>>2583613

>>2584422
"fuck this teenage girl who managed to defy an evil regime until dying from disease just weeks before she would have been free"
hello?

>>2599639
Fuck off Roman scum

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Stilicho
god gave the romans the punishment they deserved for it

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>>2599884
>In the disturbances which followed the downfall and execution of Stilicho, the wives and children of barbarian foederati throughout Italy were slain by the local Romans.
People complain about "nordniggers" but the Romans really got what was coming to them.

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>>2583613

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>>2599936
no

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>>2599941
reeee dont talk shit abour john sempai,he did as good as he could

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Frederick Barbarossa

>>2600041
he died 67-68 years old doing the thing he liked
sounds like a good end to me

>>2583613
Dude, we all deserve a better ending.

>>2584372
Salvador Allende was a cuck, he deserved everything that came to him

>>2584488
>>crushes Romans using Jew tactics but refuses to march on Rome because >muh Italian allies
>the basic acts of cutting your enemy from supply and fostering infighting is a jewish trick
Come the fuck on dude.

>>2583699
If you're going to use his real first name, use his real full name

LEV
DAVIDOVICH
BRONSTEIN
the Jew.

>>2590096
>secret pedophile island for the wealthy and powerful has always been a thing

>>2602256
I don't even think they had to keep pedophilia a secret back then

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>>2583651
No, he deserved everything he got.

>>2592146
Who's peen is that?

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>>2595499
She was a fucking idiot for trying to stir up shit with the Romans.

>>2595499
>>2602340
Did Boudicca actually exist? I thought she was a meme like Joan of Arc

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Saddam Hussein

fucker kept order in his shithole of the world

>>2602376
>Did Boudicca actually exist?
Yes.

>I thought she was a meme like Joan of Arc
JoA is shit, i agree.

>>2599820
>evil regime

You're a retarded faggot.

>>2583670
>died from lame things
That was to show they were still human

>>2602410
I would like to put Gaddafi on the list as well. They (Hussein and Gaddafi) may of not been the best, but they were far better then what's going on right now.

Archimedes. We would probably have transcended the physical realm a millenia ago if he would have lived but one more day

>>2602250
He was an atheist until he died.

>>2599915
>Romans conquer a region
>Built buildings, roads, amphitheaters, etc.

>Germ*anics conquer a region
>Becomes backward nation while Eastern Romans, Persians, and even fucking Arabs were thriving with actual civilization

>>2602462

Gaddafi was a murderous faggot who kept "his" people in a state of backwardness and terror, he got the death he deserved, I just wish he'd suffered more.

>>2602667
this

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>>2602513
Germanics had been living within the Roman borders for almost a century, with the Romans treating them like permanent second class citizens while using them as disposable soldiers in their endless civil wars, which is what completely fucked over their economy. The Germanics didn't so much as invade as simply buy out the government when it went bankrupt as the only wealth remaining in that society was in the hands of mercenaries

More harm was done to Italy during the Byzantine reconquest than when Odoacer declared himself king of Italy. In fact, Gothic Italy experienced something of a mini-golden age as people found their new German masters to be slightly less shittier than their old Roman ones.

>>2602704
ha, you wish. I was talking to a libyan migrant who was against gaddafi and he flat out told me "we were tricked, they got us good."