Does American Imperialism really exist?

No of course not.

>>2572399
No, America is pure.

No.
America wuz good guys they dindu nuffin

>does the panama canal really exist?
>does the korean war really exist?
>does the vietnam war really exist?
>does the war on terrorism really exist?

liberal states are inherently imperial

it's still wrong to use force to suppress a foreign population even if you do so in the name of "human rights"

>>2572442
the #1 example of this comes from W. Bush though

>>2572442
>wrong
why is it more wrong for a foreign power to oppress people than a native power

>>2572399
Yes, but there's nothing wrong with that. Twain criticized American ambitions in the Philippines and placed extra emphasis on how uncivilized and how widespread prostitution was. What would you think if he was able to compare South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, and Hong Kong to China, India, and North Korea?

American "economic imperialism," whatever the fuck that means, has marked the greatest upward surge from poverty in world history. China and India have taken more people out of poverty in the past thirty years than the welfare state has in the history of Man and that's just with the basic applications of free trade and market forces. If China and India applied neoliberal/Friedmanite doctrine full force, you'd be amazed with what kinds of wonders we'd see.

American cultural imperialism is among the most prevalent forms of American imperialism. This isn't a bad thing. You can travel to virtually any country in the world and find an English speaker. This is partly the product of the Anglos, but regardless products like Coca Cola and Hollywood are virtually recognizable around the globe.

Only fucking liberals whose agendas of control get disrupted by these developments get triggered by this. Globalism, not globalization is the problem. There's nothing wrong with forcing 1st world institutions on 3rd world states aka globalization, but globalism is about making the 1st world accept 3rd world institutions.

>>2572446
>w. bush
>not a liberal
liberal does not mean "left-wing"

>>2572458
it's wrong either way, but a native power that oppresses its citizens can't really function if its people revolt against it (unless the oppressive regime is supported abroad, which makes the situation really one of foreign oppression). this makes it more easily fixable than having a bunch of malevolent outsiders ruling over you, because they'll be able to actually fight you if you oppose them

>>2572474
Bait of this size shouldn't even be possible!

>>2572399
Nope.

>>2572446
>what is liberal foreign policy
God is this all neckbeards or are there any fucking IR majors on this board or at least people with the slightest amount of brain power.

>>2572517
Americans screw up meanings in a regular basis. See fascism, corporatism and most recently racism.

>>2572512
It's glorious, isn't it?

>>2572474
>doesn't mention their aid for Iraq in a war of conquest, including helping them target Iranian troop build up knowing that the Iraqis would use chemical weapons.
Somehow this is the part that bothers me.
(Because the "Helping Iraq > Invading Iraq" turnabout was so damn fast, 1988 to 1990.

American Imperialism is just Western Imperialism, which in turn is just Globalization.

it's not inherently bad, but it is what it is.

no

we aren't establishing rajas anywhere

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>>2572399
No, America just protects and expands commercial imperialism.

>>2572771
>American Imperialism is just Western Imperialism, which in turn is just Globalization.
Your half right. Western Imperialism is far broader than American Imperialism but American Imperialism is currently globalistic.

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>>2572399
Yes

>>2572517
Yeesh, don't blame him for his education. I understand what liberalism is. I'm not an IR major though. That major is just begging to have tons of subversive dogma pumped into your rectum

I'm not sure how (((American))) you would consider Hollywood, but it is an example.

>>2572442
This. It's better to watch from afar and let commie states piss all over themselves and eventually die.

>>2572487
>China and India have taken more people out of poverty in the past thirty years than the welfare state has in the history of Man


Not really. They just turned from dirt poor to barely above dirt poor. Also that poverty stat has been budged by China by lowering it's threshold so they can say they have "more people" lifted out of poverty.

>>2572442
t. Ibn Abdul al-Wahhab
Islam is a shit political ideology and you're getting flushed down the toilet along with commies and fascists and there's nothing you can do about it

Yes, but that isn't a bad thing.

>>2572474

This is actually pretty accurate in its brevity. Americans; the niggers of whites.

>>2572399
Yes.

And the world is more peaceful and wealthier than ever before.

Yes. So is Russian, Chinese, British, French, German, etc., etc., etc. imperialism. Americans are just a bit more prominent recently and successful at it than others. In fact, I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a nation which doesn't try to extend its sphere of influence/control.

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>>2572442
>wrong
Getting spooky here, lads.

Yes. America is also the most powerful and greatest nation on Earth. No other country preceding has been capable of doing what it has done in the last 70 years.

>>2574994
you're thinking of g*rms

>>2572399
Yes but it is disguised as protecting the interests of the local populace.

>>2572399
yes, on the moon

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>>2572416
>>2572420
>>2572424
>>2572487
>>2572516
>>2572776
>>2573388
+2 happymeals sent to cubicle

>>2575771
What a cringy image.

>>2572487
>China and India have taken more people out of poverty in the past thirty years than the welfare state has in the history of Man and that's just with the basic applications of free trade and market forces.
Milton Friedman pls go

Look, I don't want to be the one to say it, but fuck it, it must be said.

(((American Imperialism)))

>>2574994
This is what europoors actually believe

American imperialism is merely an extension of British imperialism, and you could make the arguement that British imperialism is merely an extension of Venician imperialism, or oligarchism. Rule via a small clique.

Protip: It's good to keep in mind the metastasis of financial ideas. From Babylon to Rome to London.

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>>2572458
Because you should respect a counries soverignty enough to not try and control the events of its own goverment.

If the cause your nation sopports morally/politically is not the popular one, dont try and force the favorable outcome just let them and leave them to there own devices.

All you do then is treat them with mutual respect and if your way of doing things trully is better they will change eventually.

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>>2574854
so thats why you kill off the (relatively) secular dictators that keeps the islamists at bay?

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>>2575771
>accuse someone of being spooked while posting an extremely spooked image
what did he mean by this?

>>2572399
Yes.

Not really. Imperialism based in America is not done to the benefit of the American nation, but instead it benefits a rootless, cosmopolitan elite that actually hates Americans.

>>2572399
no

now back to playing Call of Duty with you

>>2572474
>Americans win
>"omg they are attacking their poor innocent enemies!"
>Americans lose
>"haha they can't into war!"

really can (and have) do this to every military history

>>2578567
T. Alex Jones

>>2572399
Yes, America is an evil empire.

>>2580452
What would you prefer?

No.

>>2580457
Know.

>>2580456
Even Russia is better then yanks

>>2580467
So an evil Russian empire? Weren't they borderless communists?

>>2572399
Yes, and it's extremely obvious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kcPyqMWems

>>2580470
>borderless communists
Nnnope

>Socialism in One Country (Russian: Coциaлизм в oднoй cтpaнe Sotsializm v odnoi strane) was a theory put forth by Joseph Stalin in 1924, elaborated by Nikolai Bukharin in 1925 and finally adopted by the Soviet Union as state policy.[1] The theory held that given the defeat of all the communist revolutions in Europe in 1917–1921 except Russia's, the Soviet Union should begin to strengthen itself internally

>>2580480
I was under the impression that communism was stateless, classless and moneyless.

>>2580484
Only theoretical gommunism

>>2580485
What else is there?

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>>2580179
>>Americans win
>"omg they are attacking their poor innocent enemies!"
>Americans lose
>"haha they can't into war!"
where is the contradiction?
There is literally nothing wrong to laugh at the aggressors when they finally get their comeuppance

>>2580484
It's not communism, it is socialism.

>>2580489
You would laugh so hard at obese diabetics.

>>2580493
So all property owned by the state, in a national context. Like some sort of national socialism?

>>2580497
Sure, although not "National Socialism(tm)"

Isn't it kind of obvious that 'socialism in one country' means nationalistic socialism?

>>2580489
Dude, this is really the best you can do for American hypocrisy? You really think most Americans went hahahahahah!!! at Vietnam?

It's only offensive when it has the sting of truth.

>>2580499
And how would this national socialism be different from National Socialism(tm)? You know damn well that that necessitates censorship and consumption controls.

>>2580503
WIkipedia will tell you the difference between Stalinism and Nazism. It's not very hard to google it.

>>2580506
The difference being that Stalinism was simplistic totalitarianism under a dictator while the Nazis at least pretended to have some sort of systematic, predictable and legalistic method?

>>2580489
they blew up, 2 buildings, we blew up 2 countries.

whos laughing now shitbird?

>>2580512
Not really. The Fuhrerprinzip pretty much removed the constitution.

>>2580512
>Nazis at least pretended to have some sort of systematic, predictable and legalistic method?
ummm...wat? have you ever read about nazi germany?

>>2580515
While attempting to maintain a sense of order instead of just point a maurading band of raiders in this or that direction, not that there is much of a difference ultimately. Lynch mobs and witch hunts are just that.

>>2580501
yes their evil and should be genocided.

>>2580514
not you since it has increased your enourmous debt even more. have fun

>>2580522
Jokes on you, it would mostly be Mexicans.

>>2580528
American isn't a race henche anybody living in america i american

>>2580518
read a book reddit

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>>2580456
Americans need to take their Beaner asses back to their own continent and stop bombing countries and massacring civilians because of muh oil.

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>>2572487
>Only fucking liberals whose agendas of control get disrupted by these developments get triggered by this
funny because your whole post shrieks of reddit-tier liberalism
>Globalism, not globalization is the problem
what the fuck is the difference? are you retarded?

>>2572487
>>2582650

I don't understand what is being said. You literally outline the neo-liberal world view and then complain about "fucking liberals"

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>>2573417
>Not wanting things pumped into your rectum

>>2573209
>stupid not american can't even take a picture correctly

I am jiggling with laughter right now.

>>2572399
Yeah, but it isn't inherently an issue. Most, if not all, successful countries seek to advance their position on the the global stage. People get butthurt about the US because it is good at it. Nobody likes to lose.

>US imperialism is good and lifts countries out of poverty

in that case
>my country elects Jacobo Arbenz in the 50s
>he takes UFCO's land and gives it to farmers
>country is (surprisingly) more prosperous than ever before, and well on its way to be a non-shithole
>US thinks this is too commie and removes him, then sets up 36 years of consecutive military dictatorships and civil war
>country is now still a third world shithole and is stagnating in human development, poverty, literacy and health

is this what the benefit of US intervention looks like? someone redpill me on this

>>2572399
Yes. The 20th century has proven that economic imperialism is far more powerful than military imperialism.

>>2582886
yeah enjoy your fredomz.

Under the "commie" label, they killed lots of leaders that weren't lefties in the first place.

>>2575771
>black text on a colored image
Truly the most enlightened race.

>>2574854
Meanwhile, America is funneling weapons and taxpayer dollars to Saudi Arabia, who in turn propagates Wahhab's very teachings.

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>>2572399
>Writes on AMERICAN INVENTION
>Does American Imperialism really exist?
Yss. You're welcome.
Next question.

>>2583813
>Under the "commie" label, they killed lots of leaders that weren't lefties in the first place.

?

>>2584005
(Some of these were leftist but none were communist)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inejiro_Asanuma
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_Allende
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrice_Lumumba
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwame_Nkrumah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eduardo_Mondlane
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Am%C3%ADlcar_Cabral
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samora_Machel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Garang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jo%C3%A3o_Goulart
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Jos%C3%A9_Torres
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mart%C3%ADn_Almada
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A9ctor_Guti%C3%A9rrez_Ruiz
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheddi_Jagan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Mosaddegh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shukri_al-Quwatli
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Mar%C3%ADa_Velasco_Ibarra
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobo_%C3%81rbenz

>>2583912
I was unaware that the World Wide Web was an American invention.

>writes

>>2582886
your country learned to respect private property.

>>2584143
fuck off class-cuck

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Yea. What are you going to do about it, punk?

>>2580456
Brits.

>>2580512
>The difference being that Stalinism was simplistic totalitarianism under a dictator while the Nazis at least pretended to have some sort of systematic, predictable and legalistic method?

An-caps should be permabanned.

>>2573406
I don't really get how people can defend this. Are we supposed to believe the US didn't understand the difference between socialist democratic, democratically elected regimes and communist ones?

>>2580467

you would deserve them

>>2586927

only interested in lands where a few blaps from a maxim gun is enough to quite to the natives

>>2580834

retard

>Implying every other power doesn't do their best to enforce their outside interests
>Implying they all wouldn't do the same given USA tier powers

>>2587521

they would have conquered the world, we just want everyone to trade freely and respect the rights of our countrymen to engage in unrestricted enterprise

>>2572399
We are an empire of trust.

>>2580526
>implying debt means anything
It is just a scary number to get people to vote for a certain political party

>>2584066
Yeah

American imperialism is a Russian meme used to justify expanding borders.

american imperialism is the only thing keeping us safe from the unwashed hordes

t. euro

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>>2575771
Can't believe I have to be the one to post this image.

>>2588149
It's thanks to american imperialism the unwashed hordes comes to Europe you tard

>>2572399
Perhaps.

>have massive national debt
>the world can't do ANYTHING (ZERO THINGS) about it because we've got an unstoppable military setup in a defensive situation and nobody is going to call the bluff or get their money by force because our military is the foundation on which the modern world functions.

we basically can't lose. Everyone is so trapped in our globalized economy that they can't escape us because our economic arm reaches so deep into everyone else's shit. You can't even hide behind borders anymore we've already broken in and set up roots and our military bases all over the world ensure that nobody gets any dumb ideas. Because honestly, if you call out America on our bluff and declare war, we'd just win the war and dissolve our debt. So, you can't force us to pay you back or you'll get nothing, all you can do is stand outside on the lawn and beg for scraps, because that's all anyone's gonna get. Even China knows not to fuck with us and to not push their luck with their relationship with us. They like the setup we have now and are probably glad the United states has even played along this much in the first place.

>>2580489
Young Americans these days make 9/11 jokes all the time tho.
Me included

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>>2584066
I-I'm sorry anon, pretty sure he's right about that one.
Early forms of the world wide web were produced as an emergency communication system for US military and government bases to use if basic communication lines between these locations were severed.
I think it was later scrapped, but they had already developed the method and equipment to do this. I vaguely remember something about further work done in Britain and so on, until it was finally finished.

>>2589296

free market capitalism is the way to go, but your meme image goes off the rails after that

>>2589159

>our economy

it's the world's economy, and we are all partners in its management

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>>2572487
>globalism is about making the 1st world accept 3rd world institutions

>>2580467
You wish that were true. But in reality they are bad as each other.

>>2590010

You are a lout

>>2572399
yes but its not a bad thing

>>2572399

Only retards would think it's an imperial nation when really the US is only a Superpower nation and that's just it.

>>2589159
except you backed out like lil bitches in syria when Russia said they would shoot down your planes if you continued to bomb them.
your influence is declining, a multipolar world is inevitable

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>>2591194
>being a superpower and being inperialist is mutually exclusive

>>2591194

are you a rational person?

you should not travel in these woods alone or else the bogeyman will get you

May God have mercy on the world when the Americans discover how to neutralize the MAD doctrine.

>>2589396
You're probably thinking of ARPANET.

The WWW is a different thing that shares underlying infrastructure. (It's a protocol running on the underlying network, parts of which are ex-ARPANET. Similarly you've got FTP, IRC, Gopher, etc.)

>>2572399

Its just a prank bro

>>2572487

kys