Who are the top ten most influential people?

you forgot confusius

>>2568552
Could it be that we don't know their names?
What were the names of the people who 'invented' agriculture?
Who knows what person had some small, yet very significant influence on how things turned out.
Not a bad list OP, but I think Einstein deserves a honorable mention

>>2568571

>Could it be that we don't know their names?

Ad hoc

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>>2568552
Where? Locally, or global? Where would you like to know?

>>2568614
Global.

>>2568552
>Turing
Come on son

You touched on a few, but the cold hard reality is the MOST influential people of all time aren't intellectuals or writers, they are either conquerors or founders/spreaders of religions.

1: Muhammad
2: Jesus
3: Saul/Paul of Tarsus
4: Augustus
5: Alexander
6: Julius
7: Charlemange
8: Ghengis Khan
9: Napoleon
10: Marx

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>>2568616
Your search has ended.

>>2568635
Decent list you could make the argument 1 and 2 could be swapped but I like it enough.

>>2568635
swap paul and muhammad and you've got it

>>2568635
>Marx
I have to disagree with you on that one. Marx was highly influential, but Smith surpasses him easily, for Smith is the creator of economics as we know it. Also, I chose Turing, because being the father of modern copters is a great influence. There is no greater a tool for communication and the spread of ideas today than the computer.

>>2568552
Top 5:
>1. Jesus
>2. Socrates
>3. Adam Smith
>4. Aquinas
>5. Napoleon

>>2568646
computers*, not copters

>>2568552
> Muhamad
> Buddha
These two aren't people but product of imagination.

1. me
2. you
3. he
5. we
6. they

>>2568641
>>2568644
Christianity is definitely more influential, but I put Muhammad at 1 because he was both a founder and a spreader of his religion. It's debatable of course whether he deserves it.

>>2568646
I was going to put Hitler but figured Stalin was more influential as he was on the winning side in the war, but then thought maybe Lenin because he founded the USSR, maybe Mao. Eventually just went back to Marx, but this is of course debatable too.

>>2568646
And it's not that Turing wasn't influential, he accomplished more than I ever will, but he didn't change national borders or fundamentally change religious or ideological beliefs.

>>2568552
1.Jesus
2.Mohamet
3.socratese
4.plato
5.aristotle
6.budda
7.marx
8.julius ceasar
9.napoleon
10.hitler (lol)

Aristotle
Plato
Jesus Christ
Socrates
Alexander the Great
Leonardo da Vinci
Confucius
Julius Caesar
Homer
Pythagoras

>>2568637
Can someone tell me who these guys are.
As speedily as possible.

1.Jesus
2.Hitler
everyone else is unimportant

Since the 18th Century, as it seems most pertinent to our times and more interesting to me, personally.

1. Marx
2. Hegel
3. John Locke (scrapes in, dying in 1704)
4. Adam Smith
5. David Hume
6. Lenin
7. Napoleon
8. Friedrich Hayek
9. Milton Friedman
10. Max Weber


All of these people remain influential to the present day and have changed the world we live in. I wouldn't include Hitler as, while we was impactful in a horrifying way, his influence is only to be seen with neo-nazis and hard-right wingers. Before Hitler there was classical liberalism, and Europe returned to it afterwards. If anything, Adenauer was more influential, adopting the capitalistic system in Germany after the war.

>>2569443
lul commie

>>2569449
Lul bootlicker.

You're a moron if you think Marx isn't the most influential man of the past 300 years. He is largely responsible for the foundation of sociology and contributed vastly to economic discourse.

>>2569455
Why don't you escape capitalism already?

Why is it that the most sycophantic commie LARPers all live in capitalist societies?

It's pathetic frankly, you clearly have no convictions for your ideology.

>>2568552
1) Jesus Christ
2) Christopher Columbus
3) Socrates
4) Mohammed
5) George Washington
6) Genghis Khan
7) Adolf Hitler
8) Joan of Arc
9) Joseph Stalin
10) FDR

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>>2569455
>discourse

>>2569464
How idiotic.

That's like asking why did people who dislike feudalism live in feudalist societies?

Go bootlick your masters. I love when labourers defend the rights of capital holders. You fucking cuck.

>>2568552
In no particular order
1Jesus-Mohammed-buda/Shrek(all the same guy)
2napoleon
3 smash mouth
4 Dwayne "rock" Johnson
My top 10 or less

>>2569482
Haha so capitalism isn't such an inconvenience that you would actually leave us?

How terrible... we just get to hear you bitch for an entire life time about something you won't even walk away from.

What a total schmendrick

>>2569514
>Haha so capitalism isn't such an inconvenience that you would actually leave us?
You're not a capitalist, moron. Capitalists own capital. You're a bootlicker and exploited labour.

>How terrible... we just get to hear you bitch for an entire life time about something you won't even walk away from.
The point is not to walk away from it, but to change society. It may come sooner than you think, kid.

>>2569514
It's not like he has the liberty to posses means of production without it, you have to pay to live on the planet you were born from now. Don't consider agency that isn't there, that's like me telling you to just up and stop being an idiot, ridiculous.

>>2569529
No one wants to share their food with you, you lazy shiftless homeless trash human

Earn your own food in life. Stop being a jealous leechperson.

If you want more than you earn work harder or innovate.

But stop trying to rob the rest of us.

>>2569533
Wait, are you telling me that out of all the revolutions and commie uprising there still isn't one fucking place that works?

What a total inevitability. And yet you keep shilling like you're in a literal cult.

>>2569541
>No one wants to share their food with you, you lazy shiftless homeless trash human
>Earn your own food in life. Stop being a jealous leechperson.
>If you want more than you earn work harder or innovate.
>But stop trying to rob the rest of us.

Why do you argue against ideologies you have no clue about?

It's so fucking arrogant. All you know of Marxism-Socialism-Communism is through US propaganda. Stalinism was not Marxism or Socialism or Communism.

Marxism-Socialism-Communism is not Social Democracy. In a Marxist society, people work because they are not alienated by their jobs due to creating surplus value for a capitalist.

It's obvious you don't know what Marxism-Socialism-Communism is.

>>2569551
Nobody cares about your esoteric unworkable ideology

Just die already or go live somewhere that it actually works.

Otherwise you're in a cult. And you have 'faith' that this shit can work.

Commies go live in Commilandia wherever it is

>>2569558
Good luck with your bootlicking on Monday morning, cuck.

>>2569572
Let me ask an amicable question.

What do other humans owe you in life?

>>2568680
Muhammad is well-documented for someone in the 7th century and is even mentioned by Christian sources.

There probably was a real Indian teacher who became known as the Buddha, even if we aren't sure where or when he lived.

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>>2569541

Don't worry. The capitalists are spending billions every year trying to develop automation so they can stop sharing food with you too.

>>2569585
If you can't secure your own food in life then you must attain your food from those who have it.

Therefore you must have something to trade for your food. Labor is common.

But even that is above you somehow

>>2568681
underrated

>>2569577
Well if you don't owe anyone anything, why do you create surplus value for a capitalist?

Socialism is not handouts, idiot. Can you get past that?

>>2568552
>Jesus Christ
>Alan Turing
>a fictional character in the same list as the grandfather of computer science

>>2569644
You didn't answer my question though.

>>2569691
No, I don't feel that anyone owes me anything. That's the whole point of Marxism -- that no one is exploited. I would not be able to take anything from anyone. It's a form of collectivism.

Now answer my question:
If you don't owe anyone anything, why do you create surplus value for a capitalist?

>>2569701
My parents brought me into this world. They created another mouth to feed.

They didn't consult with your parents on the matter but I still need to be fed.

Now my parents do have enough capital to feed me without any other wealth ever being generated by me. But throw in clothes, which are not a neccesity, luxury items, haircuts (assuming they don't cut my hair or teach me to do it) and they quickly run out of the ability to perpetually provide without more capital.

Therefore it is up to me to begin ammasing my own wealth and ensuring my own basic needs.

Now if I cannot do that myself then I MUST go without. Without haircuts and new clothes and luxury electronics.

I must NOT be allowed to reach into the next citizens pocket, in this case yours.

So I find a position with a capitalist I qualify for which provides me what I consider I need to maintain my lifestyle.

So that I am not a parasite upon humanity.

1. Alexander the Greatest
2. Muhammad
3. Johannes Gutenberg
4. Julius Caesar
5. Genghis Khan
6. Napoleon
7. Aristotle
8. Jesus
9. Hegel
10. Leonhard Euler and Newton together cause fuck you

>>2569425
The two most anti-Semitic people in history?

>>2569734
>My parents brought me into this world. They created another mouth to feed.
>They didn't consult with your parents on the matter but I still need to be fed.
Marxism is not Stalinism. It's not an authoritarian state.
>Now my parents... (cut rest due to comment being too long)
What? I don't understand your point here.
>Therefore it is up to me to begin ammasing my own wealth and ensuring my own basic needs.
Amassing wealth? No one NEEDS to amass wealth. What's wrong with being comfortably middle-class?
>Now if I cannot do that myself then I MUST go without. Without haircuts and new clothes and luxury electronics.
Poor kid. Having to do without a PS4 AND an XBOX 360. How will you live?
You know most of the world lives in poverty, yes? I'm sure you think they deserve it, even though -- as you mentioned -- you were born into a non-poor family.
>I must NOT be allowed to reach into the next citizens pocket, in this case yours.
That's not what socialism is. I keep telling you. It's not taxation. You are just being willfully ignorant. Also, you're vicariously getting upset on behalf of capitalists.

In a socialist society, if you work for a company, you also own part of the company. Everyone gets out what they put in.

>So I find a position with a capitalist I qualify for which provides me what I consider I need to maintain my lifestyle.
And you create surplus value for him which he STEALS. He is literally staling your productivity and you are defending him.

>So that I am not a parasite upon humanity.
Capitalists are parasites on us.

Anyway, I'm done. You're ignoring the points I'm making. It's not up to me to teach you Marxism. I just find it so galling that someone will lecture me on something they haven't even bothered to read about.

>>2568637
I need a lot of information on these gentlemen, but I don't have a lot of time. Is there an amended factual stipend, and may one of you good people provide it?

>>2569734
Just read it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surplus_value

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>>2569764
>if you work for a company, you also own part of the company. Everyone gets out what they put in.

Oh well then obviously translate your earnings into stocks. Wa la you now own part of the company commiserate with your input

Socialism on suicide watch!
>shoelaces and belts taken away
>all shap objects removed
>medicine cabinet cleared
>all windows nailed shut
>a 24/7 guardian is now assigned

Step back from that ledge my friend

https://youtu.be/_i1vMK4XaPk

>tfw too stupid to have an anonymous online argument about marxism

>>2569806
Please flee capitalism already.

Just go

THE INVENTOR OF FIRE

>tfw too stupid to be unable to realise there is more than one person on /his/

>>2569792
Keep bootlicking and see where it gets you.

When you get laid off, will you still love your capitalist masters?

Nothing worse than a cuck who loves being a cuck.

>>2569831
At this point I will literally pay you to go for the commie utopia of your choice

Just tell me where that exists.

Bismark
Darwin
Brzezinski
Chomsky
Dennet
Newton
Charlemagne
Nero
Augustus
Caesar
Nietzsche
11 every greek great king philosopher mathematician engineer and natural scientist

Not reallythough just names out of a bucket.

The nukes and free energy were pretty cool though.

Idhave to say the patriarchyx10 doth.

>>2569831
A healthy perspective is to view his post as self as the primary contract in which you own a hundred percent stake and the rest is just a temporarily loaned contract. That we lease life from eternal death, for a while... the soul being infinite and what lies under all thought and action.

Rationale sanity.

>>2569855
>Bismark
Ha.
>Brzezinski
Zbigniew Brzezinski?! What?!???
You can not get more mediocre than Zbigniew Brzezinski.
>Chomsky
First good pick.
>Dennet
Meh
>Newton
Important, yes
>Charlemagne
Meh
>Nero
Mehhhhhh
>Augustus
Enough
>Caesar
Maybe
>Nietzsche
Nope

Why Nietzsche and not Hegel or Marx?

>>2569600

Hold up? Didn't you read my part where capitalists are replacing all human labor with automation?

And even if you owned land, you would still be required to pay property tax. How you going to pay it when you can't work?

>>2569547
I'm not even a communist retard.
All political systems from democracy, political revolution, or take over are inherently authoritarian.

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>>2568552

>He leaves out Homer

>>2568552
1. My dick
2. Ya mums vag

Good job posting this cracked-tier bullshit OP. History isn't just a rogues gallery of yesteryear's celebrities.

>>2568552
>Jesus Christ
jesus christ, dude

>>2568637
quick rundown

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>no Confucius

>>2568968
>>2569771
>>2572332
They presented Pop-sci TV shows in France, and are now pseudoscience scam artists with god delusions. Also they have weird faces.
An example of their antics:
https://golem.ph.utexas.edu/string/archives/000377.html