>tfw Japs are special snowflakes like Basques and Albanians

>>2568055
Probably somewhere in China.

middle joseon

It probably began as native to the main island, with a few other languages that developed on the 'mainland' and the sub islands. The 'mainlanders' spread to the islands by boat and brought their language. Eventually, they adopted Chinese script.

The language never traveled further than that due to xenophobia.

Note that I'm not an actual linguist or anthropologist.
>>2568064
>different language entirely beyond a single shared script that was adopted a longass time ago
>'omg they same'

>>2568065
Delet this

Altaic,

Yeah, a lot of professionals say its bullshit but as a non-linguist I still like the idea of Turkic + Mongolic + Tungusic + Koreanic + Japonic

>>2568055
Jomon-era Japan was a cultural stew of the indigenous tribes of that archipelago, Pacific Islanders, and northeast Asians that crossed over sporadically. After thousands of years of smoothing things out, you have the roots of the Japonic language which had a dash of Yayoi immigrants, then Korean and Chinese nobility that fled to Japan for sanctuary.

>>2568064
Proto Japonic may have been in the vincinity of Tai Kadai.
http://www.academia.edu/7869241/Out_of_Southern_China

(para)Japonic was spoken in Jin,Sam Han and Gaya.

>>2568122
>Pacific Islanders
Japanese are a mix of the basal East Asian Jomon(predates the formation of modern East Asians) and an East Asian population derived from southern Korea.

>>2568055

Japanese and Korean are certainly related, they both share many very peculiar grammatical features. However, they share almost no actual words, suggesting that they parted company a long time ago and haven't influenced one another since.

Lots of languages are isolated.

But has anyone else noticed how similar Japanese is to a European language in terms of how it sounds? Consider how difficult Chinese is for westerners to pronounce and then how easy and familiar Japanese is.

The Yayoi people came in multiple waves. One of the waves are most likely people from the Lower Yangzi River Delta region. The Wu (Go) and Yue (Etsu) people.

So "native" Jomon people (the first arrivals) Haplogroup D2 still makes up about 30% of male population today. This is the origin of the language.
Yayoi 1 (Wu, Yue) people
Han Chinese are mostly Haplogroup O3 and the O3 people make up about 30% of male population of Japan today
Yayoi 2 (southern Korea) people and last arrivals (after fall of Paekche)
There's a significant Korean population with Haplogroup O2b and the O2b people make up about 30% of male population of Japan today.

Plus there's others but those 3 make up the big three groups.

TLDR Japan is a mish mash of various peoples but the language first came from the earliest Jomon arrivals and later arrivals enriched it with new loan words.

https://aratta.wordpress.com/2013/12/08/the-yap-mutation-asia-or-africa/

>>2568208
What are unvoiced vowels?

>>2568307
>unvoiced vowels
The funniest thing is when you hear snobby weeaboo "connoisseurs of Japanese culture" pronounce stuff like "ah-ee-shee-teh-roo".

>>2568307
Something English also has, but less than Japanese.

I'm not saying Japanese isn't different, just that it's relatively easy for Western speakers to pronounce compared to say Chinese or Mongolian.

>>2568208
It is odd. I've heard plenty of nips trying to sound exotic that ended up sounding West/Central European.
>>2568307
Easy enough to learn.

>>2568064
The most favored current theory is Siberia then it split to Tibet and Korea, then from Korea to Japan.

>>2568307
>Sonorants are sounds such as vowels and nasals that are voiced in most of the world's languages. However, in some languages sonorants may be voiceless, usually allophonically. For example, the Japanese word sukiyaki is pronounced [su̥kijaki] and may sound like [skijaki] to an English speaker, but the lips can be seen to compress for the [u̥]. Something similar happens in English words like peculiar [pʰə̥ˈkj̊uːliɚ] and potato [pʰə̥ˈtʰeJtoʊ].

>>2568055
Old Okinawan was a distinct but similar language. Its also worth noting that many of the oldest building designs in Japan match south east Asian designs rather than Chinese or Korean

>>2568055
>tfw Japs are special snowflakes like Basques and Albanians yet nobody notices
>yet nobody notices
Samuel "LE CLASH" Huntington literally thinks Japan is a special snowflake civilization, as opposed to the mainstream label of "Sinic Civilization."

They say grammatically, Japanese is most similar to Turk. Japanese grammar is rather simple and not so difficult to learn. You can master basic Japanese without much difficulty when you live in Japan for about three months. But their writing system is a hell.

>>2568208
It depends. It certainly sounds a lot like Finno-Ugric and Latin and in pronounce, but not Germanic.