Native Americans

hmm

there's a football named after them

casinos?

the game of lacrosse is supposedly and indian game

of course we used indian names for plenty of lakes and rivers, so there's that as well

also a few states draw their name from indian words, but those are further west

Their land was pretty useful.

If it weren't for the Spanish taking them as slaves, it would have been much more difficult for the earliest permanent colonies to be established.

At the same time, their presence made north america in particular much more difficult for Britain and France to take hold of.

Surrealism
Navajo code talkers
Lacrosse
Iroquois Confederacy

Would anyone say they had an effect in creating a more welcoming culture?

>>2562956

no?

the indians of old would kill you dead

You can probably draw the love for the enviroment some americans have to the natives

>>2562960
I say this because of the mythology created around the story of the pilgrims and their relationship with the local Native Americans

The founding narratives of European settlement feature Natives pretty prominently. Think about things like the Thanksgiving story, Pocahontas, and the westward expansion.

Plus, there's the fact that many white Americans desperately try to claim ties to Native ancestry and bits of culture.

>>2563010

not in the least do I or anyone I know claim or pretend at indian ancestry

thank you

>>2563036
I didn't say they all do, I said many of them. Because they do. A pretty well-known recent example of this in the public is Elizabeth Warren. Are you sure you've never known anyone that claims to be 1/32 Apache, or have a Cherokee great-grandfather, or something like that? Because in my experience it's super common. I've personally known a bunch of people who do it; my funniest story about it is a "Native American Club" some kinds started at my junior high school that made made up of literally the whitest looking people you could imagine, and who were all dead serious about their proud Native heritage that they didn't really know anything about. My best friend (who was full-blooded Native) and I thought it was hilarious.

It's common enough that's become a pretty well-known joke, especially among Native people. I've seen it pop up a lot in media, too.

>>2563080

no

not once have I ever known anyone like that, only my mother who had a coworker that was an indian

>>2563094
Its probably a difference in where you lice as the west has a much larger native population than the east

>>2562969
That isn't really a cultural thing it's acquired by direct experience, from my anecdotes

Food

>please make my homework for me

Depends where you live. Back east where the depopulation efforts were most effective, the history and cultural impact are minimal. Place names here and there, legends and stories.

Here in the western U.S. Where populations still survive the impact is much more significant. Not just casinos and place names. The migrant people who settled here felt a very intense relationship with the natives, and likewise the natives had strong feelings. Not always negative. The settlers felt both fear and admiration for the natives who could endure these climates. Respect for the harsh environments and each other. Tribal land is everywhere you look and Indians as well are still living breathing cultures. In Arizona we have the highest percentage of our state as Tribal territory and a great many tribes, both historically local, and moved here by the Federal Government.

Thier impact here is significant. The native people exist not just as some kind of legend you cant really be found anywhere as in the east, but as living ghosts that haunt us and serve as a permanent living reminder that this land was mot a gift from God to us, but a spoil of conquest that carried with it tremendous suffering for the people who lost that conquest. It's impossible for us to overlook them when they are all around us. Note in the posted map I posted how much of Arizona is red. It's impossible to drive down a road without ending up in a reservation before too long.

You in the east who have met one or two Indians have no concept of the cultures and peoples. To you they are history. To us in the west, they are not history, they are still a present and valuable part of our humanity.

They have an impact by surviving and refusing to disappear. They have an impact by existing. If you live among them, they will influence you.

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>>2563258
Forgot the map.

>>2562939
>Surrealism
Elaborate

>>2562909
The U.S. Constitution, and a huge number of geographic place names.

>>2563080
Different anon.
I know white people do this, but I have never seen it irl. However, I have seen it done by Chicano fucktards.
The lightest skin Mexicans you see that claim to be Aztec and shit.

I find it incredibly funny and stupid. Indians get treated like dog shit in Latin America. My dad (a Quiche Indian, yes weird that he would be Mexican but I can explain that in another post if you want) gets so many nasty looks when we go to Durango, a northern state in Mexico, to visit my sister-in-laws family.

Can someone explain to me why they do this shit?

>>2563292
Mexicans from Durango aren't Chicanos.

>>2563306
No I mean in the US, and not all Mexicans in the US are Chicano. I for one am not because I speak and write Spanish and Nahuatl fluently.

My point was that these people, Chicanos, are retards for wanting to claim they are indigenous.

>>2562939
>Iroquois Confederacy
This fucking meme again

>>2563319
How is wanting to be indigenous retarded?

>>2563358
How about you get some reading comprehension, you fucking retard.

These light skin fucks are whites or castizos who want to claim indigeneity when they have no right to it. These people have no ties to being Indian, not biologically nor culturally.

>>2563377
What is biological and cultural indigeneity?

>>2563382
Different guy. I would think it looks like this.

Biologically: Not being some 1/16 Cherokee Princess blue eyes, blonde hair dipshit

Culturally: Having real bonds and tie to a community that is Indigenous or still practice some of the old ways or language of your people

And to explain to the Injun from Wall Land, the answer is white guilt.

On our mythos, yes. On anything else? Not really.

>>2563407
Bio: then how much native ancestry should a person have to be biologically native?
Cultural: indigenous languages have a lot of loanwords from european languages and the grammar has morphed over time and incorporated european grammar. The same applies to their traditions.

>>2562909

Inventing the Indian:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmP3gGj9yjM

>>2563446
Maybe at least one grandparent. Don't know. I'm not an Indian. Definitions on who is Indigenous are different in North and Latin America.

That is true. Many of them are Christian. But you know what I meant.
Why are you so interested in this?

>>2563446
The question is Euro-American based and not relevant to Native Americans. It is strictly a matter of culture. If a Native American tribe accepts you as a member then you are Native American. It is not a question of genetics.

>>2563502
>entirely Euro based

Not true. I have a friend who is a light skin Trique. He was raised speaking the language and in a village with only Trique people, but several of his fellow Triques do not consider him Trique simply because he has his mother's eye and hair color. In Latin America, blood sometimes matter.

t. Mestizo Oaxaqueño

ITT: People who know nothing about indigenous culture and people, and even less about the historical impact and legacy of those people.

/his/ was a mistake indeed.

>>2562909
Democracy and the Enlightenment. See: Haudenosaunee

>>2563548
t. "white ally" who thinks he knows shit about Indians.

Nicnequi nicahuiltiz tonanan niggers.

>>2563536
Every tribe is different in whois accepted and considered one of them. They are more strict in Latin America, cause the racial caste system was more specific. In the US we don't even have a term castizo. You are either white, mixed race or identify as some non white race. That said some native groups here are known to adopt nonracial natives.

>>2563567
*Nicnequi quiahuiltiz monanan nigger

>>2563583
Yeah yeah. Sorry just being a contrarian.

>>2563036
Wtf are you talking about 7 in 10 white people I know will say they are an 1/8th this or a 1/16th that

>>2563536
Isn't this the same tribe that sells their daughters for like a couple hundred dollars and some alcohol? I know the Mixtecs do that shit too, they tried to sell me their 14 yr old girl once as a wife.

>>2562969
Like this said >>2563122
But direct experience can be a cultural thing, like as in native Americans, and POV has a lot to do with what is experienced.
A European settler, or commercial Gardner has a radically different relationship with and understanding of ecology than in Native American tradition. It's somewhat unfortunate but the natural sciences, people like John Muir and the resulting environmentalist movement has probably had a more prevalent effect on European Americans, Native American influence is more noticeable in the west.

>>2563599
>gardener
*farmer lol

>>2562960
The Indians of now will too, the reservations are generally all horrible places.

I was a lifeguard at a public pool on the rez one summer, it may as well have been inner-city Detroit. I caught a 12-year old trying to sneak a bottle of Jack Daniels in.

>>2562909
Conan the barbarian was envisioned as a native american at first but Howard couldn't make him that way due to racial attitudes of the time. Instead he only made implications through the descriptions of Conan, just added different color eyes. I always imagined him as a big apache looking guy though.

>>2563596
Yes.
Youtube.com/watch?v=uPfRGFm7hYY
The father says others in his tribe sell their daughters but he did not want to. Go to 10:09

>>2563618
>>2563596
Yeah I should have mentioned they are real assholes. They also like to Jew other Indians.

>>2563616
Source on that? Everything I've ever read says that Cimmerians were intended to be proto-Celts that were descendants of the Atlanteans (which makes sense, considering Conan was originally sort of a knockoff of Kull, an Atlantean).

>>2563595

I happen to be an American, so I know my own slice of this country, and I never claimed people don't have an interest in their heritage you simpleton.

>>2563258

malarkey

>>2563476

turned it off after 40 seconds

>>2562909
Food

Shitload of "southern" cousins are just Native American food

For example corn bread.

Technically Tacobell is Native American fast food lol

Camp Red Cloud and Navajo Talkers

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Ripping of whitey

>>2562909
Names of places
Illinois
Miami
Iowa
Dakota
Algonquin
etc, etc.

Bam, there you go.

>>2562937
Their presence didn't make it difficult, puritan ideology did

Nigga just look at the US state names: Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, the Dakotas, etc all are named after native tribes. There are a multitude of cities, counties, and various landmarks and geographic regions in the US named after native peoples or bearing names given to them by natives. You cannot go to a single state in this country without running into something named after a Native tribe.

>>2562969
>You can probably draw the love for the enviroment some americans have to myths regarding natives
FTFY