So in the National Palace Museum on Taiwan, they have a huge timeline that shows China against all the other major world civilizations, to try to prove that China is the oldest surviving civilization in the world. How accurate is this claim? Is there any reason to consider it suspect?
There is some continuity between the Chinese empires, but they were governed by many different peoples and dynasties, so to claim a continuation of a united Chinese Empire through all these years seems a bit like propaganda.
Would be the same if Italians claimed unbroken descendance from Roman Empire, or maybe even Greek.
>>2561707
It's bullshit, simple, tribal peoples of Neolithic Taiwan were completely different than modern Taiwan. You could just as well make a graph from similarly Neolithic cultures of Europe, or almost any other part of the world really, to "prove" that this culture is the oldest.
And if we consider Neolithic and modern Taiwan to be the same culture, there is no problem in moving even further back in time, to Palaeolithic times and "proving" that Africa is the oldest.
>>2561715
>but they were governed by many different peoples and dynasties
How did the different dynasties differ from, for example, the different Royal Houses of England (like the Tudors, the Stuarts, and the Hanoverians)?
>>2561721
I think the focus of the timeline was on the Chinese dynasties rather than the Taiwanese aboriginals, since the museum is broadly about Chinese historical artifacts taken from the Forbidden Palace when the Republic government escaped from the Communists.
>>2561755
It's very difficult to compare China to England in this aspect. The dynasties differ in that usually there was great violence involved in getting another dynasty, with a specific culture group in China becoming in charge of the country, and thus becoming the primary culture. Add that to being conquered by different peoples in between, and nobles intermixing with the conquerors, and you get a situation very different from that in England. I'm not sure about this, but most royal houses are related to each other in Europe. This was not as much the case in China.
>>2561707
>ancient greek civilisation ends around 400 BC
huh
>>2561771
That was around when Alexander died and his empire fragmented, then Alexandria and Antioch became more important than the Greek citystates proper.
>>2561707
What a stupid and pointless dick-measuring contest.
Nationalism might be the most serious threat to historical accuracy (next to time-related decay)
>>2561924
>That was around when Alexander died and his empire fragmented
Almost a century off.