how did a place (Singapore) with no natural resources go from

>>2559502
>How does trading work.

>>2559502
Most ijportant port in Asia.

>>2559502
it's a trading hub

signapore is asian venice desu

>>2559505
>>2559512
>>2559520
>le trading hub

This meme has to stop.

>>2559528
>singapore magically turned rich

this meme has to stop

>>2559531
No, Singapore is basically a tax haven.

>>2559533
>tax the people
>people become rich

ok

>>2559539
a tax haven is when you tax the people less

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>>2559502
>le no natural resources meme
Singapoor is situated in EXACTLY the best place in asia - it's a point which is directly on the best shipping routes.

Most of the population consists of a high IQ group (Chinese).

The location is also a relatively good location as a trade hub, but everyone knows that low-IQ races wouldn't have achieved that level of wealth under the same circumstances

>>2559563
so wait you're saying signapore has little to any taxes, AND didnt get its money from trade?

ur memeing me

>>2559575
Then why are indians the richest demographic in Singapore?

It's simple. They are one of the only countries in the world that embraced export-lead growth instead of import-substitution industrialization.

>>2559528
>This meme has to stop.
how is the truth a meme
are you retarded

City states don't have to worry about supporting a bunch of rural dead weight like most countries do.

>>2559502
Jewry. Trading and banking.

>>2559674
Imagine if London were it's own country.

>>2559624
>singapore
>export

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>>2559694
>Imagine if London were it's own country.

openness to global markets and investment
favorable attitude to the west and support from the west
inheriting infrastructure, industry and commercial ties from the British and a skilled educated organized workforce
an easy to secure island
proximity to less stable countries which provided a lot of raw materials increasing demand for a city where the long term large capital investments needed to process them are safe

>>2559502
banking
logistics
trading
capitalism, baby

>>2559528
This is the reason. Reasons are not memes. Singapore's location makes it natural as a trading hub for all vessels entering Asia from the Indian Ocean or vice versa. People passing through a place brings money, if not through taxes then through commerce (and apparently it also brings the Chinese).

>>2559674
This. Rural and suburban retards are a plague

>>2559771
the Anglo brought opium addicted coolies to Singapore who subsequently cuckolded local Malays

>>2559849
So the Chinese of Singapore are all descendants of drug addicts?

>>2559612
They aren't. Their household income is larger due to on averge larger households

>>2559771
>(and apparently it also brings the Chinese)
Chinese communities in asia almost always begin with traders, artisans and other trades almost always arrive later. It follows that they're in greater abundance where trade is most lucrative.

iron fisted socialist government run by a benevolent and competent autocrat.

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>>2560560
""""""""socialist"""""""""

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>>2559502

Multiculturism itself isn't the problem.

The problem is the low socio/cultural cohesion OFTEN (not always) caused by multiculturalism.

An iron-fisted government and the situation of living in a small and dense land (a fucking island) maintained socio-cultural unity and cohesion despite multiculturalism.

Nevertheless, the good majority of Singapore is Chinese, so it's not the BEST example of multiculturalism. A good one, but not the best.

I know OP is subtly trying to argue multiculturalism is good. Close but no cigar. Maybe a cigarillo for you.

>>2560574
first few decades, yes.

they only started going full on capitalist and neoliberal trade since the 1980s.

>>2559795

t. Starbucks sipping san-fran tranny

>>2560579
multiculturalism is the problem.

multiple ethnicity/religions sharing the same culture is ok.

multikulti causes parallel societies to form and eventually civil unrest and fracturing of nations.

>>2560593

But that's what I'm saying! You're being a bit redundant, buddy

>>2560579
Is that why Malaysia is basically a failed state? Weak government and geographically diverse?

Imo I'd say it has more to do with self serving elites ruling on behalf of their pragmatic interests, but I'm interested to hear your thoughts. Islam could also legitimately have something to do with it.

>>2560584
In what way was it socialist

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>>2560609

Singapore consists mainly of Chinese and Indians; Malay is by far the minority.

So the people's culture/background/wealth of Singapore and Malaysia are already vastly different. So many variables between the two countries that I won't even try to answer your question.

Singapore was also lucky to have a productive and generally well-meaning autocrat. Like general Park's regime in South Korea (the most economically significant and progress-filled period of post-war South Korea), Singapore's "iron fist" government was exactly what Singapore needed to grow rapidly.

Good autocrats/monarchs are rare, but boy when they do happen, they blow wimpy wishy-washy democracy out of the water.

Islam? I don't know.

>>2560609
>Is that why Malaysia is basically a failed state?
Define failed state. Malaysia
>maintains control of its territory
>maintains monopoly on use of legitimate force within its territory
>maintains authority to create and enforce law
>maintains ability to collect taxes and provide public services
>maintains ability to interact with other states as part of the international community
Just because people are mad the PM is stealing shit doesn't make Malaysia a failed state yet.

>>2559528
It is dipshit. Literally the British came coz it was a motherfucking hub

>>2560628
>Commieblocks
>A lottttttttt of socdem spending
Daily reminder that the PAP was in the Socialist International before they resigned


>>2561397
This. Malaysia is shit but not that shit

>>2561397
The Anon is just using hyperbole, Anon.

When he says 'failed state' he means a society riven with systemic issues.

>>2561411
I don't get you people.

As a Venezuelan I encounter leftists online who tell me our insane Marxist government, with all their red stars, flags, hammer and sickle, Che Guevara poster crap, Maduro being "educated" in Cuba by their Communist Party, the Ministry of Economy being run by some "Marxist theoretician" from Spain, most private industry being nationalized and given to "collectives", etc.
>It's not REAL socialism and they're not socialists you reactionary fuck. Socialism is direct ownership by the workers of blablabla..

Now we're talking about Singapore, the ultra-capitalist technocracy par-excellence.
>Uh they were in the SOCIALIST International and they built commieblocks and spent on social programs, clearly their success as a hyper-capitalistic financial hub is all thanks to SOCIALISM, *sniff* praise Marx.

>>2561475
This, the PAP purged all its communists pretty early on who became the Barisan Sosialis (Socialist Front), then after they joined Malaysia they used the Brunei revolt to arrest half of the leadership and killed Singaporean socialism dead.

>>2561475
>ow we're talking about Singapore, the ultra-capitalist technocracy par-excellence.
It is, but that wasn't always the case as some anon has already said. If anything the guiding policies at the beginning was socdem in nature. Maybe actually read what is being said

Here's a question
Why is the majority of the population descended from Han chinese? What happened to the ethnic native malay?

>>2559502
Capitalism.Singapore being multicultural is a meme.Countries like France or America are more multicultural than Singapore
>>2559533
Manufacuring is a bigger sector in Singapore than the finacial sector

>>2561513
>Singapore being multicultural is a meme
Implying,
The big difference between Singapore and Europe is that Singapore is not trying to assimilate populations as long as they are within the law.

Europe thinks assimilation =/= intergration. hence why they consider it to fail.

+point of Singapore is also that they are strict on the law, this counts for crime but also racism. Hence why all people are in harmony.

>>2561509
>Why is the majority of the population descended from Han chinese?
British Empire imported shitloads of Chinese and Indians to Malaya and Singapore to work the mines and plantations because they didn't consider the Malays to be reliable workers.
>What happened to the ethnic native malay?
The island was nearly uninhabited at the time the British took posession.

>>2560657
>Like general Park's regime in South Korea (the most economically significant and progress-filled period of post-war South Korea),
[Multiple Citations Needed]

>>2561521
Singapore is 85% chink.All the population speaks english or Madarin.France is more multicultural than Singapore

>>2561521
>making everyone live together is not assimilation

>>2561598
More like 71%.

Singapore is an authoritarian pseudo-dictatorship that enforces "harmony" through whips and money. It's in no way a multicultural society as western liberals think.
Furthermore, there's a reason the PAP is 85-90% Han Chinese.

>>2561598
>Singapore is 85% chink.All the population speaks english or Madarin.
The law mandates that all Singaporeans learn both English and their ethnic mother tongue. So Chinese learn English and Mandarin, the Malays learn English and Malay, and the Indians learn English and Tamil.

entrepot used as main trading hub in Malaysian archipelago totally had nothing to do with it

it grew so much from its settlement within 6 years that in the Anglo Dutch treaty of 1824 the British were willing to rip the treaty up if the Dutch tried taking Singapore

>>2559502
It was a trade hub from the start. Avery urbanized one at that. Making multiculturalism work there wasn't a bonus, it was a requirement for the whole thing.

>>2559694

That shit would be a John Carpenter movie.

>>2559694
London as defined by the M25, or the ancient City of London as defined by the walls of Roman Londonium?

>>2561509
The Chinese in Singapore and in Southeast Asia are mostly descendants of Teochew, Hainanese, Cantonese, And Hakka speakers. They came mainly from Fujian and Guangdong
Large scale migration didn't occur until Singapore was administered as part of the Straits Settlement by the British. They came as traders and coolies.

>>2561686
>coolies
mostly coolies and were bottom tier in all of southeast asia

>>2559502
Read LKYs memoirs.

>>2559502
Best Geographic location for trading

Also its a small city sate easy to organize and police

>>2560609
Malaysia has laws that makes sure the ethnic Malays or Muslims are on top and are the only ones that gets to be a first class citizen

Its like a soft apartied style

>>2559575

>High IQ
>Chinese

you gotta be kidding me,

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>>2561579

Then which period was better, oh wise one?

The ousting to the old republic (in which the elites preferred reverting to an agrarian economy) and the beginning of an autocracy which forced the introduction of the highly-successful export economy was what makes South Korea rich right now.

Everyone respects Park in South Korea. And I say respect; a good number of people dislike him but the vast majority saw him ultimately as a necessary evil.

Basically the only people that hate him are butthurt far-left radicals, literal communists, and people from South Jeolla province (and I'm from that place so that says a lot about how popular Park's regime was).