Times Where The Good Guys Lost

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if we'd accepted the British proposals we'd all be in a much better place right now.
Temporary self-interest has taken the US from the world's largest creditor to the world's largest debtor, and unleashed financial havoc on the rest of us. Breton Woods was built to fail.

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Fuck Mussolini.

Gaul niggers shouldn't have destroyed Rome if they didn't want to face retaliation.

>>2549841
The Napoleonic Wars

>>2550365
Rome only fought defensive wars so therefore the invasion of Ethiopia was purely a defensive war.

>>2551556
On Mussolinis part that is.

>>2549841

Oliver Cromwell.

>did nothing wrong
>could not stop a man from building a wall from scratch around a hilled city

???

>>2550371
/pol/ get out

>>2551624
>From building two walls

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>>2551556
>>2551592
Mussolini was defending the pride of the Italian people that had been so cruelly wounded by being beaten in the first Italo-Ethiopian War hard enough that their government collapsed.

>>2549841
>Vercingetorix LITERALLY did nothing wrong
Now I don't remember very precisely the whole history on the gallic side, but wasn't Vercingetorix basically a kinslaying usurper who was right about as good at dividing the gallic tribes as Caesar himself? He "sacrificed" the tribes the Arverni had bad history with and refused to collaborate with the Belgae because he didn't want to acknowledge them as anything other than subjects in spite of them considering themselves a separated group of people from the Celtae.

>>2552924
He also thought camping at the top of a hill was the greatest idea ever despite outnumbering Caesar 2:1

>>2551842
to be fair the second wall was behind the first one he failed to stop the building of

>>2549841
He was incompetent

willingly surrendering was a pretty lame move though

>>2553923
his army was starved, exhausted and pretty much neutralized.

>>2553929
I meant the part about him running in front of Caesar. He should have just left and kept his life.

What is every single Danish war since Swedish independence?

>>2551623
He didn't lose tho

>>2553891
>>2553868
What the hell happened? I'm not well versed in Roman-Germanic wars

>>2553934
Didn't he wander out naked and wave his cock in front of Caesar as a sign of respect?

>>2553950
Celts BTFO

>>2553973
How did they do that by building a wall? What did the celts camping on a hill have to do with it?

>>2553983
two separate battles. One is a field battle and the other is a siege. in the battle he camped on a hill instead of cutting off Caesar and allowed him to build a Fort completely negating his hilltop position, but he still wouldn't get off the hill because muh hill so Caesar charged up the hill and smashed him in an infantry slog because Caesar's men were some seriously fanatical badasses. They were able to build a wall around alesia because the cavalry trying to stop the construction couldn't break the Roman infantry.

it basically comes down to romans being extremely headstrong and foolhardy and winning virtually every engagement that can be broken down into a simple slogfest. As long as they don't get outflanked-and Caesar's battles are basically a guide book on how to not get flanked-they eventually win.

A group of 300 romans got lost during the invasion of Britain and shipwrecked off the northern coast of Gaul and we're attacked by thousands of barbars, and despite being completely surrounded for hours they held their box formation until Caesar arrived with the cavalry to drive them off. If I remember correctly they didn't lose a single man though this might be propaganda. Still, it shows the kind of men we're dealing with: the kind that are so fanatically loyal to Caesar that they held out hope for an impossible rescue against impossible odds, and when they were rewarded with salvation, they became that much more fanatically loyal than they were before.

The loyalty and unbreakable morale of Caesar's troops, even when he wasn't present, was probably the single biggest factor in why they thrashed the gauls.

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>>2549841

>that centurion wearing pants

>>2554020
Damn. I always wanted to get deeper into Roman history and now I think I know where to start. Thanks, man

>>2554131
Just read the gallic wars by julius caesar

>>2549841

The Romans were pure fucking evil to the core. Genocide, rape, mass murder, drunken incest, all with a straight face.

>>2551631
>/pol/ boogeymanning isn't bannable but Reddit Boogeymanning is
>>2550371
>implying Gaul is one tribe

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>>2549841

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Nothing wrong

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>>2549841
R.I.P.

>>2554393
Fuck you

He defied Rome, that is crime enough

>>2554388

I concur, he was the hero of the United States of America

we should have given him a medal

>>2554393
National Socialism had so much potential, but Hitler fucked it all up.

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>>2554020

For anyone that wants to hear the account from the man himself may I recommend, "How I conquered Gaul; why the Gauls are a race of fools, and why I'm pretty damned accomplished." by IVLII CAESARIS

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>>2554453
In your opinion, who could have led NatSoc to fulfill its potential?

>>2554465
None of the inner circle, that's for damn sure. The only ones who didn't get completely caught up in all the bullshit backstabbing politics were Speer and Goering, but Speer didn't have the charisma to lead a nation, and Goering was too much of a drug addict for the people to respect him.

>>2554453
What about pseudo-scientific racism and anti-semitism has potential?

>>2554480
>pseudo-scientific racism
That shit was mostly concocted by Himmler and Rosenberg. Most of the inner circle disagreed with their theories, especially Hitler.
>anti-semitism
Don't even get me started.

>>2554204
a good read but you can't take it all literally since it was written essentially as a propaganda piece.

germany, austro hungary and the ottomans should have won the first world war...we are living in the wrong/bad ending. seriously...think about it, the more you do the more it makes sense.