Can we have a thread on how other cultures viewed Westerners?

>hairy body
>pointy nose
>smoking tobacco
>tattoos

It's like a game of telephone

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Alberto Barbosa in Benin

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Japan really liked drawing pictures of Commodore Perry

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>>2546321
thats not Alberto Barbosa
>sorry compulsory meme

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>>2546326
what do they say?

pic is American ship from the Perry Expedition.

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>>2546424
more Americans

>>2546014
>Chinese sketch of an English Sailor.
literally demonization

>>2546424
This looks like a marines ship from One Piece. I wonder if Oda took inspiration from period drawings.

>>2546438
It probably went like this: English sailors land, meet some peasants then leave. Artist arrives later, asks peasants how the English looked like. They tell them they had big noses, were covered in hair and blew smoke from their mouth. Using these bits of information he draws this thing.

>>2546326
>Fuck nigga those gaijin have weird eyes, like, do I make them bigger on the face, or droopy or what the fuck.

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>>2546014

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How arabs viewed whites

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>>2546727

>>2546727
>their hair is lank and reddish because of the damp mists

you what mate

>>2546727
>Shut up Perry

lmao. I'll start saying that to every fatposting american I come across on /int/

>>2546756
... I'mma be real, I'm American Nationalist as fuck...

but you should totally do that. You old-world son of a bitch.

>>2546727
Sounds a lot like how the Greeks viewed Northerners too.

>>2546727
>skin is coarse

is it just a tradition for white people to not moisturize their skin

>>2546748
Their accounts get a boit weird at times.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_ibn_Fadlan#Ethnographic_accounts
>I have seen the Rus as they came on their merchant journeys and encamped by the Itil. I have never seen more perfect physical specimens, tall as date palms, blond and ruddy; they wear neither tunics nor kaftans, but the men wear a garment which covers one side of the body and leaves a hand free. Each man has an axe, a sword, and a knife, and keeps each by him at all times. Each woman wears on either breast a box of iron, silver, copper, or gold; the value of the box indicates the wealth of the husband. Each box has a ring from which depends a knife. The women wear neck-rings of gold and silver. Their most prized ornaments are green glass beads. They string them as necklaces for their women.

>Ibn Fadlan, on the Rus merchants at Itil, 922.

Germanics having tatoos is cool though.

>>2546495
smart

>>2546790
I only do it after shaving, we live in countries with a lot of mouisture in the air so there is no need.

>>2546768
You might be interested in the change in homicide rate in Europe. The homicide rate used to be 100 times higher in the middle ages, and about three times as high as in Detroit. People used to chop of the limbs of the executed and keep them as souvenirs, in England they played football with their heads occasionally.
http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2017/03/15/first-worldism-part-5-the-european-revolution/

>>2546014
Glad the Chinese could see through the eternal *nglo even back then

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Portuguese traders.

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>>2546821
>dude wtf is this bird

>>2546821
Look at those happy merchants.

>>2546727
>the farther they are to the north the more stupid, gross and brutish they are

this still applies to this very day!

>>2546438
Anglos are demons

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>>2546818
>the homicide rate used to be 100 times higher in the middle ages, and about three times as high as in Detroit.

these are so fascinating.

must keep thread alive

>>2546748
The lack of sun means their hair doesn't get burnt black duh

>>2546821

stop

hammer time

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cargo cults allowed?

>>2546818
>thealternatehypothesis.org

didn't click, reminder to hide/report clickbait spam.

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Russian couple

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Probable Greek soldier, woollen wall hanging, 3rd- 2nd century BCE, Sampul, Urumqi Xinjiang Museum

>>2546719

Why did Perry tell the Japs that America didn't have enough food?

>>2546756

That's fine, just know that I'll respond "You stupid catfish!"

>>2546756
>posting on /int/
>ever
You have to go back

>>2546719
>Shut up Perry.

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Frenchman with a geisha

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Sumo and American marines.

>>2547103
spooky

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Frenchman.

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Sumo and foreigner.

>>2547166
>"these gaijin are gay as fuck"

I have never understood the Chinese conceit that white people = big noses. I lived in Hong Kong for five years and it's not like Chinese noses are particularly small. Shaped differently, sure, but really not that much smaller. Yet every time they drew Europeans they gave them these huge bulbous noses (still do, kinda). It's not even offensive to me, it's just stupid.

The weird eye shapes and excessive body hair I can understand, but not that.

>>2547166
>Mirin dat core strength

>>2547166
>Americans meeting with foreigners
>Americans aren't the fat ones
How times have changed

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Columbus.

>>2547185
I dont know, it always looks to me like western noses are wider, maybe slightly longer to

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Washington, apparently.

>>2547185
White noses are much bigger than Asian noses if you look at profiles.

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Perry's ship and crew, with a black sailor looking like a literal monkey. Which reminds that one of the things the Americans offered as gift to the Japanese was a minstrel show.

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Perry bowing.

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Sumos really loved kicking gaijin ass.

>>2547205
Yeah, if you only look at profiles. Asian noses are flatter. Not smaller. I see plenty of Asian dudes and even some women who aren't exactly slacking in the nose department.

The ones that emphasize the ... sharpness, I guess (>>2547108) I can see more than the ones that are just giant and bulbous and elongated.

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The five nations allowed to trade with Japan at the time.

>>2546727
>Their furthest north is Francia
>No one knows what's north of the twelve isles (presumably Denmark)

O i am laffin

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Benjamin Franklin.

>>2547249
Woops, that should be in my Dastu-a Ron folder, not my Black Ships folder, sorry.

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James Watt.

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Titian.

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Western tourists.

>>2547253
The twelve islands are called the Islands of Barataniya, which shouldnt be hard to figure out as meaning Britannia

>>2547285
"Barataniya" and "Britain" don't sound as similar as you might think it does

>>2547166
semper fi

>>2546014
Probably a Northerner haha.

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>>2546719
I read it in this voice.

>>2547405
hahaha benis

>>2547193
>Isabela as a japanese noble.
Funnt, but cool.

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>>2546326

>>2547218
>Perry's ship and crew, with a black sailor looking like a literal monkey.
Japan has a... weird relationship with black folk.

The one black samurai of Japan.
>Nobunaga heard the noise from the temple where he was staying and expressed a desire to see him. Suspecting the black color of his skin to be black ink, Nobunaga had him strip from the waist up and made him scrub his skin.

>Satisfied that he was in fact black, Nobunaga seems to have taken a shine to him, and at some point, although when is not clear, he was either given (Japanese accounts indicate him presented to Nobunaga, although European accounts do not mention this) or allowed to enter Nobunaga's service.

>Yasuke fought alongside the Nobutada's forces for a long time but he eventually surrendered his sword to Akechi's men. They asked Akechi himself what to do with him. Akechi said that the black man was a beast and did not know anything, and furthermore, he was not Japanese, so they should not kill him but take him to the nanban-dera or nanban-ji (南蛮寺, literally the temple of the southern barbarians, how the Japanese referred to the Jesuit church).[7][11] It is said that the reason why Akechi spoke in such a manner was a form of taking pity on him, i.e. giving a clear reason why not to kill him. Black people were not discriminated against in Japan at this time; they were even admired, for the Buddha was often portrayed in black in Japanese temples.

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>>2547475
Why I never see him on my historical animu?

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>>2547475
>google this guy
>most of the results are "We Wuz" tier stuff.

Shame, sounds like an interesting story.

>It is said that the reason why Akechi spoke in such a manner was a form of taking pity on him, i.e. giving a clear reason why not to kill him. Black people were not discriminated against in Japan at this time; they were even admired, for the Buddha was often portrayed in black in Japanese temples.

Maybe it's just phrased awkwardly, but that sounds like bullshit: I doubt there had been many, if any, black people in Japan before him. And I don't speak Japanese so I can't check the source cited by wikipedia.

>>2547511
I think that's the main idea.
Sure, they considered him kinda ape-ish, but he left a good impression on Nobunaga, and everyone believed he was a pretty cool guy, and a wildcard, since Japan didn't meet black people before that.

>>2546014
The rest of the world sees Anglos in the same way

>>2547475
>they were even admired, for the Buddha was often portrayed in black in Japanese temples.
WE

>>2546451
he did

>>2547522
Eh, poor Hideyoshi was called "The Monkey" just because he was ugly. Didn't mean he wasn't respected. Banter on appearance is to be expected in those times. Even further back, Socrates was ridiculed for his ugliness as well and Diogenes, upon seeing an Ethiopian taking a dump, is reported to have said, "A leaking cauldron".

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>>2547522
Oh yeah, I'm not denying that. It's just that he seems to be used to create some kind of narrative. The talk page on wikipedia illustrates this a bit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Yasuke

>>2547092
>announcing your reports
Enjoy your ban.

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>>2547565
>mfw that page and the edit page

Fuck me why is everyone on wikipedia so fucking autistic

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Englishman doing something while looking at a huge picture of a woman.

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Here's something a bit different: a western view of Japan right after Perry's expedition.

>>2546727
Pretty accurate desu

>>2546014
accurate depiction down to the peak

>>2547379
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>>2547368
would pictures like this be copied from european paintings, or just done off descriptions & accounts?

>>2547673
>daybot
>a giant man with boobs and an aura being tugged on by tiny people

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All the ones are a bit surprising, considering the Perry expedition did great gravures of Japan.

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They were also accurate Japanese representation of Perry's ships, but they're less funny.

The king of the Azande people hated & despised whites

He called them "dirty little crop-headed barbarians"

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Of course the Japanese continued to show western people. Here's one from the Russo-Japanese war.

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And another.

>>2547771
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>>2547682
Thanks so much!

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>>2547779
You're welcome! A last bonus: how the Japanese represented themselves vs how they represented the Chinese in the Sino-Japanese War.

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>>2547779
>>2547797
Depending on the artist, you have almost Western looking Japanese soldiers fighting stereotypical Chinese caricatures.

>>2547299
Try Barataniya and Britannia on for size.

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T'ang depiction of a Sogdian.

>>2547133
>Why did Perry tell the Japs that America didn't have enough food?

He probably didn't literally say that, but one of the major reasons for opening up ports in places like Japan (other than trading for profit) was to be able to stop there for repairs and to resupply stocks of coal, water, and food.

Strictly speaking the use of Japanese ports for supplies was Perry's primary goal, the trade was a secondary issue.

>>2547881
From Perry's treaty of Kanagawa:

On supplies:

>ARTICLE II
>The port of Simoda, in the principality of Idzu, and the port of Hakodade, in the principality of Matsmai, are granted by the Japanese as ports for the reception of American ships, where they can be supplied with wood, water, provisions, and coal, and other articles their necessities may require, as far as the Japanese have them. The time for opening the first-named port is immediately on signing this treaty; the last- named port is to be opened immediately after the same day in the ensuing Japanese year.
>A tariff of prices shall be given by the Japanese officers of the things which they can furnish, payment for which shall be made in gold and silver coin.

>ARTICLE VIII.
>Wood, water, provisions, coal, and goods required, shall only be procured through the agency of Japanese officers appointed for that purpose, and in no other manner.

On trade:

>ARTICLE VI.
>If there be any other sort of goods wanted, or any business which shall require to be arranged, there shall be careful deliberation between the parties in order to settle such matters.

>ARTICLE VII.
>It is agreed that ships of the United States resorting to the ports open to them shall be permitted to exchange gold and silver coin and articles of goods for other articles of goods, under such regulations as shall be temporarily established by the Japanese Government for that purpose. It is stipulated, however, that the ships of the United States shall be permitted to carry away whatever articles they are unwilling to exchange.

>>2546014
we get it bro you vape

>>2547175
bullshit, sumos are manlets especially back in the olden days, a sumo competition probably resembled a danny devito impersonator convention

>>2548013
delet this

>>2548008
No. Sumo wrestlers were always big guys. The minimum height requirement to be one today is 180cm./5'11.

>>2548094
>5'11
>big

>>2548102
>the minimum height requirement is way above the average height of Japan and higher than most Western countries
>they're manlets hurr

>>2547508
Hyouge mono depicts him

>>2547823
New desktop image

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>>2546727
>There are women there whose custom it is to cut off their breasts and cauterize them while they are small to prevent them from growing big.
wut

>>2548013
What did they mean by this

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>>2547166

>>2548013
Showed this to my Japanese girlfriend and now she won't talk to me.

>>2546719
>S-sh--shhut up perry!

>>2548184

Don't show her old gay pictures. You must steal her pantsu and live forever alone

A long ass time ago I read about an exchange between one of the first European colonists and a native. The native guy felt really bad for the colonists, because Europe had to be REALLY shitty to convince all these people to go live across the ocean.

>>2547825
Looks like one of those bathhouse greeters from Spirited Away

>>2547175
Replace the foreigner with Wojak and the Sumo with Pepe

>>2548013
what the fuck

>>2548211
>Europe had to be REALLY shitty to convince all these people to go live across the ocean.
Well he wasn't wrong.

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>>2547159
m'lady

>>2548013
don't let Yukio see this

>>2547673
Is that supposed to be the Buddha? Btw it's cute how the artist chose to depict Buddhist monks with tonsures. Well, they are monks after all.

>>2548013
This is the painting that best represent the Russo-Japanese war. Slavshits got literally fucked in the ass.

>>2547909
>japanese year
Hm?

>>2548350

Surely you don't expect Edo Period Japan to use the Gregorian calendar?

>>2548013
fuckin lol

>>2548164
Pre-Christian Russians. At least they seem to be less nostalgic about paganism than nordcucks.

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>>2546719
>Shut up Perry.

>>2547768
>russians
>western

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A European depicted on a 17th century Siamese cabinet. Sorry about the ant-size.

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>>2548727
Portuguese on a salt-cellar from Benin, Nigeria. These were commissioned by European visitors to Benin and modern Sierra Leone in the 16th century to bring back as 'curios' to Europe.

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>>2548750
An example from Sierra Leone, with the passion of Christ.

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>>2548756
17th century Safavid miniature of a Portuguese.

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>>2548767
Another

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>>2548775
A 16th century Mughal example.

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>>2548778
The Mughals also emulated European styles in their paintings, eventually integrating it into their own art. Here's an early example of a Mughal study of a European painting.

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>>2546727
>976 historian
kek, already butthurt about the battle of tours

little did they know what awaited them a hundred years later

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>>2548789
Here you can see the styles integrated, plus a depiction of a European (Dutch, I think).

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>>2548801
The Portuguese in Japan. In the top right is a Christian church; notice the cross on top and the image of Jesus inside.

>>2548798
I don't think Muslims even noticed the battle of Tours, and the Crusades weren't very important.

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>>2548813
Around 1600 there was a Jesuit-driven attempt to fuse European and Japanese art styles, to make Christian imagery more attractive to the Japanese. Mostly native artists were used, to create European-style paintings on Japanese folding screens. It didn't have a lasting influence like in Mughal art though.

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>>2548833

>>2548813
Dunno lad, they seemed pretty set on expanding further in france. Wouldn't even have mentioned it if it wasn't for the constant mention of "franks" in that historian account which made me think of it.

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>>2548835

>>2547193
talk about yellow washing history, gees

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>>2548840
This one's meant to be the battle of Lepanto, but it was copied from a depiction of a battle between Rome and Carthage, hence the flags.

>>2548837
As far as I know it was just seen as a minor skirmish from a Muslim perspective, but there do seem to be other views: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tours#In_Muslim_history

Franks are just what Muslims and non-Europeans in general called Western, Catholic Europeans. It even spread as far as places like Thailand; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farang

>>2548835
>>2548840
Looks reminiscent of Italian genre paintings from the Quattrocento.

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>>2548870
Here's an Indian (Deccani) 17th century depiction of the conquistadors arriving before an Aztec pyramid.

>>2546326
>nicest guy you'll ever meet or twisted fucking psychopath

>>2548013
Accurate depiction of Russo-Japanese War.

>>2548874
Yeah, I get the same impression, especially from the buildings.

Those two in particular were meant to combine Christian imagery of pilgrimage with Japanese imagery of outdoor leisure (a popular subject in Japanese art).

https://nichibun.repo.nii.ac.jp/?action=repository_uri&item_id=198&file_id=18&file_no=1

>>2548013
I don't understand

>>2548478
No of course not, i just don't know what they did use so I am curious

>>2546014
>>2546326
Didnt the chinese and japanese have contact with persian and arab traders before? Shouldnt they already know what caucasians looked like?

>>2546727
>Nords BTFO

>>2548013
>Depicted: Battle of Tsushima

>>2548948
1904: Russia and Japan went to war. The Russian army got buttfucked by the Japanese army.

>>2548013
Imagine being around at the time and hearing that the largest country on earth got buttfucked by some tiny island nation.

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>>2546014

>>2549009
The Chinese did. They arguably had contact with the Roman Empire as well. The first Europeans on Japanese soil were missionaries and traders in the 1500s.

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>>2549074

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>>2549076

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>>2549078

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>>2549080

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>>2549083

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>>2549086

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>>2549092

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>>2549100

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>>2549110
Another rendition

>>2549080
Turkey is white? wtf Japan

>>2548164
It's a funky cult-y thing. I remember it because they showed up in a Delta Green splat and then I saw someone bring them up here and I was "holy shit it's a real thing?" Can't remember the name, though.

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>>2549115

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>>2549128

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>>2549132

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>>2549135

>>2548883

That's neat. A non-western country depicting another non-western country on the other side of the world.

>>2549118
>White
Look up Ottoman illustrations of themselves during the middle ages. Skin tone is a spectrum of a phenotypical characteristic everywhere. What to an East Asian might be "Regular pale skin", to a Swede, might seem swarthy, and what "Light skin" is to a spaniard, might look "Olive" to a German.

>>2549009
>>2549067
The Japanese probably knew about Sogdians back in the Tang/Nara period, but presumably forgot about them.

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>>2546719
>What are you talking about, you stupid catfish!
>Shut up Perry
10/10 would laff again

>>2549165
Knew nothing about that. Thanks.

>>2549086
This is in France. Normans were never in sub-Saharan Africa.

>>2549135
I'm pretty sure this is late 15th century. Definitely not 13th anyway.

>>2549182
First one was a stretch, saw it and saved it without looking into it much.

The second one I forgot to rename after saving it. It comes from the 15th century Siyah Qalam. Good call anon!

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>>2549197
The Siyah Qalam stuff is really great. I love the way he depicts Chinese and Central Asians.

>>2549120
You're probably thinking of these guys, right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skoptsy

>>2548581
they're probably less nostalgic about it because they don't know most of it. Huge chunks of pre-christian mythology, rituals, etc, were erased

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17th century Kongo depiction of St Anthony

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>>2549242
The Kongo were fucking nuts about St Anthony

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>>2549247
Like really nuts

>>2549080
>that italian costume
what the actual fuck, it's like they switched the man and woman by accident

>>2549242
>>2549247
>>2549251
It's because he apparently brought visions to a girl that Jesus and other Christian figures were in the Kongo. It was the original WE WUZ and St. Anthony started it all

Part of Ibn Fadlan's account of the Vikings, 922 AD.

>I saw the Rus’ (Vikings) who had come on their trading missions and taken up quarters on the river Atil. I have never seen men more physically perfect than they, being tall as date palms, blond and ruddy and wearing neither tunics nor caftans. A man among them, however, wears a garment with which he wraps up one side of his body, and it is through this opening hat he lets one of his hands out. Every one of them has an ax, a sword, and a knife, and he is never without the items just mentioned.
>Their swords have furrowed blades in the manner of the Franks. From the tip of their toenails to their necks each one of them is covered with [tatoos of] verdant trees, figures and the like. Every one of their women has a rounded container fastened over her breasts, that is made of iron, silver, copper, or gold in a manner commensurate with the magnitude of her husband’s wealth. On each container there is a ring in which there is a knife, which is also fastened over the breasts. Around their necks they have bands of gold and silver. This is because when a man possesses ten thousand dirhams, he has a neckband made for his wife. If he has twenty thousand dirhams, he has two neckbands made for her. Thus with each ten thousand dirhams that is added to his wealth, a [new] neckband is added to those possessed by his wife. It sometimes happens that one of them will have around her neck numerous neckbands. The most splendid ornaments among them that are made of the ceramic material found on their ships, which they greatly overrate. They buy them at a dirham a bead and string them into necklaces for their women.

>>2548896
Spilt my fucking tea all over the carpet... thanks

>>2549280
>They are the filthiest of God’s creatures. They neither cleanse themselves after either defecation or urination, nor do they perform the necessary ablutions after major ritual impurity, nor do they wash their hands after eating. Indeed they are like stray asses. The come from their country, and dock their ships on the Atil which is a large river, on whose banks they build large wooden houses.
>Ten or twenty of them, more or less, gather in one house. Each one has a couch on which he sits, and with them are the beautiful slave girls intended for the merchants. One of them may have sexual relations with his slave girl while his comrade looks on. Sometimes a whole group of them may come together and engage in such action opposite each other. It sometimes happens that a merchant comes in to buy a girl from one of them and finds him copulationg with her, yet he does not leave her until he has satisfied his desire.
>Every day, without fail, they wash their faces and heads in the filthiest and most foul water possible. A slave girl comes every morning carrying a large bowl filled with water. She presents it to her master, and he washes his hands and face, and the hair of his head which he also washes, and combs it into the bowl with a comb. Then he blows his nose and spits into it, and indeed there is no filthy deed that he refrains from doing in that water. When he has finished whatever is necessary, the girl carries the bowl to the one next to him, who engages in the same activity as his colleague. She continues to pass it around from one to the other until she will have taken it to all those in the house, each one of whom would in turn blow his nose, spit, and wash his face and hair in it.

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>>2549259
>Accident
Ever see Italian women?

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>>2549280
Ibn Fadlan judged everyone. His accounts of the Turks who "converted" to Islam is hilarious. They keep claiming to be Muslims and he's like the fuck you are nigga

>>2549259

It's his mom

>>2549293
The whole account is a pretty fun read.

>The next day, we encountered a lone Turk of ugly countenance, shabby appearance, mean looks and despicable demeanor, just as we were overtaken by a heavy rain. He said: “Halt!” and the entire caravan, comprising close to three thousand mounts and five thousand men came to a halt. Then he said: “Not one of you will pass,” and we halted in obedience at his order. We said to him: “We are friends of the Kudharkin.” Whereupon he began to laugh, saying: “Who is the Kudharkin? I shit on the beard of Kudharkin.” Then he said: “Pakand!” which means “bread” in the language of Khwarizm, and I handed him some round, flat loaves of bread. He took them and said: “Pass! I have taken pity upon you.”

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Tsar Nicholas having a nightmare about the war

>>2549287
absolutely disgusting.

>>2549287
I thought the meme of Vikings being literal niggers was just a meme

>>2549280
For the last time the Rus were not vikings. Only the nobility of the Rus were

>>2546326

HOLY SHIT, top left is literally a proto-pepe

>>2549355
Even accounting for exaggeration, it doesn't sound too far from how actual sailors might have acted at the time. Consider that they are probably from the lowest elements of the society of their birth, as sailors often are, particularly those who volunteer for long voyages.

>>2549009

They're not white

>>2547355
I enjoy how clean the perspective is.

>>2549162

Swedes are swarthier then light skinned Asians...swedes as probably the tannest European behind the portugese

>>2549356
The people living in the land of Rus' were not all Vikings, but the population of merchants and sailors specifically called Rus' in the 10th century were Vikings.

>>2549403
How are there still people who don't know what 'caucasian' means?

>>2549287

Butthurt defeated pussy whining that vikings don't do their pretentious arrogant rwligous "ablutions" to get the sand out of their asshiles so they can rent it out to old sheikhs

sure but its not like the average person would see one in their lifetime

>>2549408
They weren't nords

>>2549110

is that the virgin mary with a gun?

>>2549418
I can feel the ass-pain radiating off this post.

>>2549421
They were, though around the mid-10th century the meaning of the word gradually changed to mean the ruling class regardless of ethnic origin. Ibn Fadlan was writing just before this change, and the population he writes about are described as merchants, not rulers. The idea that they were never Norse is just Russian nationalist WEWUZing.

>>2549333
>8,000 men halting for a hungry, crazy old man.
Amazing.

>>2547595
Please tell me that's his penis

>>2549416

I know what it means but this thread is about foreignperceptions of westerners/Europeans

>>2548995
They used the Chinese system and the year would be based on whoever was Emperor.

>>2549467
happens everyday when a hobo gets onto a subway track in a big city during rush hour

>>2547108
>yfw she wants the dick
>hfw she wants the dick

>>2547166
Just mirin, no homo

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>>2546326
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0NV9rXbVzc

>>2548813
LMAO

Still buthurt thousand of years after that

>>2546727
>Those who dwell sixty odd miles beyond this latitude are Gog and Magog.
is he implying we are white devils ?

>>2547193
Im digging the messed up name - you can tell this story was told to an artist by another Japanese person

>>2548767
>>2548775
why did they depict the portuguese as white?

>>2549948
>>2548813
By Muslim sources they didn't attach that much importance to Tours, but they really lamented and were butthurt about the battle of Toulouse.

>>2547645
Baggy pants or extra leg?

>>2550146
;^)

>>2548801

it's King James I being butthurt because he's being made to play second fiddle to a Sufi Shaikh even though he's a king

look at him he's so mad

>>2549340
Oh god, if i had had the 2nd pacific squadron pastas on this computer id be posting them right now!

>>2549333
Based turks taming arabs since forever

>>2547748
Got any source material for us to view?

>>2549340
He looks more like Kaiser Willy desu

>>2550146
bulge

>>2549340
>tfw the japs killed telephone pole man

>>2550369
>tfw i forgot to remove my shitpost name after shitposting on s4s

>>2550381
>there are /s4s/ crossposters on this board

Explains a lot.

>>2547086
These always fascinated me.
I've always wondered what would happen if a plane had to make an emergency landing on one of their airfields in some odd circumstance.

>>2547299
It do bro

Bara taniya
Bri tannia

>>2549110
>>2549115
Thats neat, everyone seems to have a great time

>>2547175
Looks like Groundskeeper Willie

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>>2548226

>>2547166
>THICCfags.png

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>>2549118
Turkey is probably whiter than Britain at this point.

>>2547205
>>2547197
European noses are bigger when looking from profile, asians have flat faces and noses

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>>2547086

>tfw john frum hasn't visited in like, 50 sun spins
>tfw no cargo

>>2549110
>native auxiliaries in the first ranks
>italians hiding behind

As expected.

>>2549289
>tracey says

What purpose does this exactly serve?

>>2550690
>>2547086
Are they still around?

If I land my Cessna there and give them some cargo will they consider me a messenger of the gods?

>>2547797
>>2547804
>>2547823
>>2547771


question for art fags, are these expressionist paintings?

They look great either way

>>2550849
Not really
expressionism is a period in modern art, type in expressionist in google images, you'll see.

Maybe you're thinking impressionism, which refers to a movement in painting where the artists moved away from realism
>The artists like to capture their images without detail but with bold colors. Some of the greatest impressionist artists were Edouard Manet, Camille Pissaro, Edgar Degas, Alfred Sisley, Claude Monet, Berthe Morisot and Pierre Auguste Renoir. Manet influenced the development of impressionism.

But it's also not that

The Japanese used the brush more as a performance / expressive way to capture nature, rather than making a realistic depiction of what nature looks like.
.. I guess


read this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_painting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hokusai
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukiyo-e

>>2550146
BIGGU

>>2550849
No, Japanese art was just way ahead of European/American art before they decided to go 360 and side-shuffle.

>>2546719
>let me tell u 'bout freedom, you stupid fucking catfish
>fuck off ameripoor

>>2546727
>euroniggers

>>2547175
wtf is that a merchant caricature

>>2549073
>>2549074
>>2549076
>>2549078
>>2549080
Really digging that artstyle and the way they despict the other nations. I can say Portuguese and Brazulians are pretty accurate indeed.

Thanks for the dump Anons.

>>2546730
Europeans used to be the niggers of the old world.

>>2547166
>No homo, but I like what i'm seeing, big boy.

>>2546719

>PERRY BTFO

>>2549287
Truly the niggers of the old world.

>>2550788
Yes before they eat you

>>2549418
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXhcekI7lp4

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>>2550546
pretty gud

>>2547242
ah yes, the norwegian-british colony of norway-britain

>>2547426
Bless you for posting these. This one is interesting. I assume these were Dutchmen visiting Japan. Did they bring their own table, chairs, and silverware in order to eat? I wouldn't think they'd commission local carpenters to make them to their specifications. It's just funny to think about.

>>2550984
I'm glad that some things never change.

>>2547193
>Korombus
you can't make this shit up