Asiatic peoples

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>>2535431
I agree with your theory, anon

>>2535431

The Mongoloid race originates somewhere in Northern China around 25000 years ago and radiated from there.

They spread by human wave absorption tactics. They had high population growth in their homeland and sent out women to other tribes likes Negritos and pre-Mongoloid Siberians until they were biologically absorbed.
This tactic was particularly successful after they invented pottery as other races were very interested in it.

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Asian people used to look similar to Caucasians before they evolved more. See: Polynesians, Jomon/AInu and northern Amerindians. All classified as "proto-mongoloid" by anthropologists.

>>2535431
Is there even a consensus about different eye shapes having evolutionary benefits? I heard Epicanthic fold might protect the eyes a bit from harsh winds but it might be false. Also, they are present in many different regions, from South Africa (among Khosai) to Finland. They might just be random traits that became widespread due to sexual selection (people finding one or the other attractive).

>>2535431
>that developed small eyes because of blindness educed by light reflecting off snow.
so why did the xhosans develop the same eyes?

>>2535496

I have a theory that chinky eyes are actually a common genetic defect caused by inbreeding which can arise independently anywhere.
I've noticed some Sardinians, Brits etc have them.

well I have a theroy that people were already different when they get out of africa

>>2535496

I think sexual selection drives fastest physical changes on an ethnic level.

When it comes to natural selection, some trait has to literally kill you before mating age. Not alot of ethnic traits seem to endure death in differing environments.

Skin cancer and melanin maybe? But I'm not sure if skin cancer happens before mating age

>>2535440
No they started somewhere in northern west India which is really cold during the ice age thats why their faces are so flat and their eyes are permanently squint due to high altitude winds from the Himalayas.

>>2535585

Why India? Doesn't make sense. India is the homeland of Veddoids not Mongoloids.

>>2535431
Obviously they are ayylmao's with no soul

>>2535585
my god that was retarding to read

the wind gave them flat faces?!

>>2535585
>their faces are so flat
wat

>>2535600
No on the edge of India anon, notice how west India has alot of mongoloids native to it.
>>2535619
No the cold temperature did.

>>2535600
Vedic people were Indo-European Aryans

Dravidian abbos are natives of South and Southeast Asia. They later got cucked by Aryans to the West and mongs to the north

>>2535628
Veddoid doesn't mean Vedic, idiot

>>2535628

Veddoid is a term to describe the pure unadultered aboriginals of South Asia, nothing to do with Vedic Aryans from Europe.

Dravidians are mixed with Neolithic farmers from Iran.

>>2535459
mongoloids descended from australoids
australoids being the bedrock/foundation of mongoloid/caucasoid race

mongoloids didnt evolve more, the australoids mixed with peking man type hominids and became mongoloids

it proves regional continuity of peking man to modern china


750,000 years ago Peking Man with Mongoloid features

"On the Relevance of the Regional Continuity Features of the Face in East Asia" also found that a form of facial flatness is unique to China (i.e. only appears there at high frequency, very rarely elsewhere)

Shovel-shaped incisors are commonly cited as evidence for regional continuity in China.

"It is the pattern of shoveling that identities as an East Asian regional feature, not just the occurrence of shoveling of any sort


a non-depressed nasal root, non-projecting perpendicularly oriented nasal bones and facial flatness are unique to the Chinese region in the fossil record and may be evidence for limited regional continuity

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiregional_origin_of_modern_humans#China

>>2535685

Multiregionalism doesn't work.
East Asians have a very small bit of Denisovan admixture, which is of course present in Europeans as well but in a vanishing fraction.
East Asians and Europeans are both a mixture of OoA humans and Neanderthals.

>>2535623
fucking wat

>>2535623
>>2535702
ok lets think through what the hell you're on about.
You are saying that because it sucks up there and you have to squint all the time, being born scrunching up your face and squinting your eyes permanently is a genetic trait that will get you to thrive more and mate more.
SO MUCH SO that we now have asia as it is.

if that's the case, you're a fucking idjut

>>2535691
>mixture of OoA humans and Neanderthals.
just a few years ago and academia considered neanderthal mixing with humans to be fringe psuedoscientific crap

mongoloids exhibit regional features of peking man and inhabit the land of peking man

caucasoids phenotype can be easily traced to their australoid forebearers (who once occupied terrirories throughout eurasia and even americas),

but mongoloids have a distinct peking man phenotype that is not can not be traced to australoid

>>2535716

>just a few years ago

They had a relatively valid reason at the time to think so since Humans don't carry even a single Neanderthal derived uniparental DNA lineage.

Autosomal DNA studies however have confirmed the Neanderthal admixture event beyond all doubt.

If East Asians had non-Neanderthal archaic ancestry beyond ~0.1-0.2% Denisovan it would be easy to notice as autosomal DNA can be deciphered with the current level of science.

>>2535728
and just a decade ago it was thought to be impossible by the scientific authorities

heard of floresiensis?
heard of boskop?

there are literally 100s of yet undiscovered species and subspecies of hominids

most wont get discovered even

to discount the real possibility that mongoloid alien phenotype is a result of mixture with undiscovered hominids is anti-scientific

>>2535758

Doesn't matter. East Asians don't have special archaic ancestry or else it would show up in *-stat matrixes.

You don't understand anything about the science involved and yet you claim that scientists are anti-scientific.

>>2535768
>10 years ago: East Asians don't have special archaic ancestry, its scientifically proven to be impossible, everyone just shut the fuck up and listen to my superior opinions
>in 2010: oh shit, we found a previously unknown hominid Denisova
>shit, looks like mongoloids have special archaic ancestry
>2017: but now i am TOTALLY sure that East Asians don't have special archaic ancestry, just trust me on this one

hear it from an actual asian, the poster is stupid to assume that all Asians have the same characteristic,
to say that I have a slant eyes is preposterous.
it's like saying all apples are red, when in fact some can be green,

>>2535809

East Asians don't have enough Denisovan admixture for it to be significant and Denisovan alleles aren't entirely absent from Europe.

The ones with meaningful Denisovan admixture are Papuans and Australians. They are 5-7% Denisovan.

>>2535821
>t. ainu
you are special apple, research your aboriginal past

>>2535821

2/2

you people need some education, it's making you ridiculous here on the net. if you just listen to your history class then you would not be dumb enough to make such stupendous assumptions on something you don't know, u dumb americans,

>>2535831


don't make china as the whole ASIAN
you americans, china is a fake country, literally fake shit comes out of there, those savages eat dogs and cats and shits sheesh,

>>2535821
>American education in a mainland chinese inmigrant: the post

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>>2535685
>>2535716
>>2535809
Chinese and Japanese have no Australoid admixture. I don't think Polynesians do either. Proto-mongoloids are distinct from Australoids.

>>2535872


australoid haplogroup M are observed in Asia, specifically in Bangladesh, China, India, Japan, Nepal, and Tibet

Haplogroup M2 [2] - found in South Asia
Haplogroup M3 [3] - found mainly in South Asia
Haplogroup M29'Q found among Papuans, Australian Aborigines
Haplogroup M31 [24] - found among the Onge, in the Andaman Islands[15]
Haplogroup M32 [25] - found in Andaman Islands
Haplogroup M33 [26] - found in South Asia
Haplogroup M33a - found in India
Haplogroup M34 [27] - found in South Asia
Haplogroup M40 [30] - found in South Asia[15]
Haplogroup M41 - found in South Asia
Haplogroup M42 [31] - found among Australian Aborigines
Haplogroup M5 [5] - found in South Asia
Haplogroup M6 [6] - found mainly in South Asia

>>2536083

Haplogroup M contains much more derived lineages than those rare ones which don't have their own letters.

>C
>Z
>D
>G

All typical and characteristic of Mongoloid populations, particularly from NE and East Asia.

So much for you wacky theory that M is Australoid.
Besides, Aurignacian Europeans had M. They just went extinct.

>>2536118
>haplogroup M
you just confirmed that mongoloids derived from australoids

>>2536192

Never argued otherwise.
Europeans also descend from Australoid looking Eurasians.
Kostenki man had physical similarities to Australoids and yet genetically he is the earliest European ancestor that has been identified.

>>2535459
Only the Jomon are representative of a basal East Asian phenotype.

Polynesians are Austronesians with Papuan admixture,Amerindians have Ancient North Eurasian and Ainu have Paleosiberian.

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>>2536569
Do you think this Papuan looks anything like the lady I posted? If Polynesians have any admixture from them it's very minimal.

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>>2536603
Polynesians are primarily East Asian but their Papuan ancestry is far from insignificant.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v538/n7626/full/nature19844.html#tables

The Jomon are the best representative of an unadmixed "Australoid" population with East Asian roots(as opposed to descent from Australasians and Andaman Islanders).

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>>2536746
Looks like it's just a couple of Polynesians then, not all of them. Maori look close to Jomon/Ainu. They're just a bit darker due to the climate of where they live.

Are native americans mongoloid?

>>2536766
>Maori look close to Jomon/Ainu.
Shouldn't be a surprise,Austronesians are derived from neolithic cultures from coastal China(some of which are phenotypically Australoid).

What is more annoying is this individual >>2536083 trying to associate Australasians,South Asians and Andaman Islanders with East Asians because proto Mongoloids had an Australoid phenotype.

>>2535849
>eat dogs and cats
So do nords, what's your point

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>>2536791
The northern ones are proto-mongoloids. You can see that they do have some Caucasian-like traits as the Jomon and Maori do as well. I'm not sure about whether the southern ones fall into though.

>>2536837
>Amerindians
They are admixed with Ancient North Eurasians(30-40%).

Ancient North Eurasians and other West Eurasians may have some basal East Asian ancestry. https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/doi/10.1093/molbev/msw293/2838774/A-Working-Model-of-the-Deep-Relationships-of

>>2535431
You include the fucking aboriginal Americans? Why not include the fucking Indians then?

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>>2536861
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongoloid#Proto-Mongoloids

>Lahr said that the other hypothesis is that Mongoloids originate from Southeast Asian populations that expanded from Africa to Southeast Asia during the first half of the Upper Pleistocene and then traveled to Australia-Melanesia and East Asia. Lahr said that the morphology of the Paleoindian is consistent with the proto-Mongoloid definition.

>>2536893

Native Americans share genes with Europeans, particularly the Aryans.
It's a folk legend of the uninformed that they are Mongoloids.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mal'ta-Buret'_culture

>>2536791
yes

>>2536899
Ancient North Eurasians were not white.

>>2536893
>Wikipedia
No one knows when and where the Mongoloid phenotype emerged.

What doesn't change is that Amerindians are heavily admixed with Ancient North Eurasians.

There's a dearth of ancient East Asian DNA with isolated population such as the Taiwanese Austronesians(East Asian lowlanders),Sherpas(East Asian highlanders) and Ainu(Jomon) and Ulchi(East Asian's from Devil's Gate) providing clues to the internal split of East Asians.

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>>2536926
Amerindians cluster closest with Siberians. They aren't anywhere near Europeans.

>>2536919

ANE are the source of at least some of the genes which White people carry so they are one of the founding fathers of White people.

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>>2536933
ANE is pretty much chink admixture. Yamnaya were mixed with chinks. The "Europeans" closest to them today are the heavily mongoloid influenced Saami.

>>2536933
whites were founded by cro-magnons long before ANE

>>2536943

>I don't understand something thus I call it chink to discredit it

>>2536948

Doesn't matter since those guys sucked balls. Modern day White people carry the genes of ANE. Sardinians ain't white anyway.

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>>2536932
>They aren't anywhere near Europeans.
Why would they be? Europeans only derive part of their ancestry from Ancient North Eurasians.

>ANE is pretty much chink admixture.
ANE is descended from the West Eurasian split of non Africans.

http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2017/01/09/molbev.msw293.short?rss=1

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>>2536951
>hurr Siberian mongoloid admixture isn't chink

>>2536971

Let's try to imagine a population which contributed significant DNA to both to the Eurasian looking Kets and the hyper-Caucasoid looking Chechens.

Hmmm...

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>>2536978
>no Siberian mongol genes here, pure Aryan master race

>>2537017

Not strictly connected to ANE idiot or else Scots would share alleles with Han Chinese wouldn't they?

The ANE natives of Siberia became intermixed with East Asians over time, beginning around 10000 years ago.

>>2536951
>Modern day White people carry the genes of ANE

a subset, ie russians and finns

also thats like saying
>Modern day Yellows people carry the genes of Australoid genes

>>2537046

>Irish
>Scots
>Spaniards
>Scandinavians
>Germans
>Slavs
>Finns

All ANE carriers. Mediterranean wogs also had more ANE in the classical times as their Indo-European blood wasn't as dilluted yet.

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>>2537058
>all of them occasionally exhibit chink phenotypes, specially Russians and Finns

>>2537058
well that's why you look at subclades, the more a lineage spreads and mutates the less it is linked to a specific ethnicity
African R1b is a totally different branch from European R1b

you had almost fully WHG Latvians in the mesolithic carrying R1b so by that point one could say it was already pretty much west Eurasian


>Modern day Yellows people carry the genes of Australoid genes

>>2537089

R might have had some remote origin in paleolithic SE Asia but still EHG were just as "West Eurasian" as WHGs.

Besides, WHGs weren't the original Europeans anyway. They replaced the Aurignacian descendants.

Lochsbour had only 5% Aurignacian admixture IIRC.


WHG and ANE/EHG must be seen as something related to each other and equally unrelated East Asians, and almost equally unrelated to Aurignacians.

>>2535809
you have more viral ancestry than asians have denisovan ancestry

shut the fuck up retard

>>2535509
well, your theory is correct

>>2537219
can i get names for different branches of their race
like how caucasians have white, med, arab peoples

what does asian race have

>>2537201
>t. locust insectoid

>>2537219
4th from top looks latina, and qt af

>>2537239

>Med and Arab
>Distinct

Lmao

>>2537239
Asian here, not scientific, for most common social use divided around:
North east Asian: North China, Korea, Japan
South east Asian: South China, Vietnam, Thailand, etc.
North west Asian: Uighur, Kazakhstan, Kyrgistan, Stans etc.

Amerindians, Eskimos, and Pacific Islanders are included scinetifically

>>2535510
Traits don't have to kill you to die out. It could simply be that a certain trait is beneficial and allows those that have it to breed successfully

>>2537330
this
especially in humans

humans are too smart to really be pressured by the environment too hard and differences are mostly due to sexual selection, drift and bottlenecks

>>2535585
India didn't exist back then.

Also,
>Northwest India
What did he mean by this?

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>>2537261
The only "Arabs" that look like Meds are the ones that live close to the Mediterranean sea unsurprisingly.

>>2537255
>4th from top looks latina
Well yeah, since she is from peru

>>2536766
I work here and some native Japanese especially in the labor force really look un-asian. Almost like Polynesian. But very rare lol

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What's with the WE WUZ WHITE Japanese posters these days? Is this Japanese autism?