So, explain de Gaulle to me.

>>2526606
The last sane European who didn't suck international American or Anglo cock so he's demonized by a lot of western media. Also he sired a retard.

A tall Gaul.

>>2526606
Utter cuckold who pulled out of Algeria and capitulated to shitskins.

>>2526623

What would have been your solution to Algeria wise one?

>>2526653
Nuclear weapons.

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>>2526623
>je vous ai compris

>>2526669
+1

r8 my Anglo-centric, American pop-history knowledge...

>obscure (?) french general in pre-ww2 era
>thinks the french army still preparing to "fight the last war"
>doesn't surrender in 1940, escapes and leads gov't-in-exile from UK (?)
>gets butthurt that U.S. recognizes vichy government for so long
>gets to lead the march back into Paris in 1944
>very popular in france
>wants france to remain a great power to combat "anglo-saxons" (UK/US)
>only american president he likes is eisenhower
>pulls out of NATO
>kickstarts quebec nationalism
>rules france as conservative quasi-authoritarian until toppled by hippies in 1968

Don't know very much about Algeria & Indochina, desu.

>birthed in an old noble family, with a strong military tradition
>captured in WWI, becomes famous for his prison escape attempts, then serves in Poland and the colonies
>writes up a book about mechanized warfare which Hitler and Guderian each add to their libraries
>handed a tank division in WWII which almost wrecks Guderian, and becomes the secretary to the war minister
>flees to England when the French cabinet appoints Pétain as président du Conseil
>rallies the French to him, though this is wounded as a movement by Mers-el-Kébir, and holds a speech which almost predits the fate to be had for WWII
>grows a working relationship with Churchill, though most of what he does is irking him a lot for France not to be dismissed as an Allied power
>lends the French Free Forces credibility in their recapture of the French colonies, although some of this he does in secret which upsets F(aggot)DR, and is the reason for Algerian Vichy forces surrendering their arms
>salvages the soveignity of France by persuading the Allies to capture Paris before the communist might, and empowers the Resistance movements so that American can't subject France to military occupation
>meets Stalin in 1945 as a precursor for France to not submit to either side of the Iron curtain
>is president of the provisional government, but retires from politics when the writers of the IVth French Republic's constitution shy away from strong presidential leadership
>makes last speech at Bayeux (which founds "Gaullism"), then broods for 20 or so years
>begged for his assistance in resolving the Algerian war crisis (a war that France is winning but that makes it shunned all over the world) in 1958
>becomes last president of the IVth French Republic, then starts writing the constitution for the Vth one on the principles of Gaullism
>ends the war in Algeria as he considers that old-age colonies cannot outlast the modern age (on a side-note, my grandpa goes "eh?")

>>2527338
>starts being hated by the OAS, an organization that derides him for his action in Algeria (on a side-note, my grandpa isn't with them), and survives being bombed by them
>starts the French approach to a post-colonial world by pioneering Françafrique (built around either befriending former French colonies on the link of a common language, or slightly bullying them)
>starts the nuclear program with France with the Gerboise bleue project, and experimenting with them in the Algerian desert and the French Polynesia
>grows tired of France being the bait in NATO's strategy for fighting a Soviet invasion, and retreats from the NATO joint command structure, in the process ousting NATO bases from France
>realizes that the US is in a cultural war against France, and does his utmost to prepare France for this conflict
>enters in a bromance with Konrad Adenauer, chancellor of Germany, to soothe tensions between France and Germany, to strengthen the CEE, although he wills for it to be a confederation of nations
>screws over the unfair Bretton Woods by system, and on his own starts a trend that will lead to Nixon disbanding Bretton Woods
>leads France in being the first Western power to officilally recognize the PRC as legitimate China
>tours Poland, and asserts his ambition for a Poland free from Soviet chains
>exerts out of France's position as third party state a status as a link between the US and the USSR, and oversees the first arms limitation agreement between Eisenhower and Khrouchtchev
>on the negative side however, is a bit of a somewhat dick with the CEE, such as by sitting out negotiations between the members when the CAP was being debated
>was criticized throughout May 1968 by silly protesters, but however does enough that the riots from students are contained
>rules by referendum, and retires when one doesn't approve of one of his ideas, interpreting this as the public repudiating him
>lives out a comfy life at Colombey-les-deux-églises,

>>2527340
Also, what is gaullism?
>belief that government should be above class struggles, and divisions between political parties, and should instead be bothered with unity and national sovereinty


Now maybe, it's less elusive to some people why France has a liking for him.

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>>2526606
He pretty much led to decades of civil unrest in my country, so you could say we don't hold the best opinion of him over here in Canada.

Even I am split about him, despite being a Frenchaboo.

>>2527338
>>2527340
>>2527343
Wtf I love France and am a Gaullist now

>>2527338
>>2527340
>>2527343

Very informative, thank you.

However, from what I know about de Gaulle...

What is with his antagonism towards Great Britain?

And why the hell did he go with the whole "Vivre le Quebec libre" thing? That confuses me a lot, because it doesn't seem to work towards his whole "politics of grandeur" schtick.

>>2527343
>belief that government should be above class struggles
So basically fascism.

>>2527390
His diary showed that he felt France let Quebec down in letting it be ruled by the Eternal Anglo, and wanted to "redeem" France through one last show of integrity.

>>2527390
>What is with his antagonism towards Great Britain?
Maybe because Albion is perfidious

>>2527360
vive le québec libre
canadians get out

>>2527420
actually, I should rephrase that
Québecois are the only real Canadians, the rest are just American LARPers
false-canadians get out

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>tfw Sarkozy's burger loving ass destroyed his Legacy

If you learn only one thing about De Gaulle, understand that he placed French sovereignty above all else. That is the principle that guided all of his actions.

And in that way he saved France in the aftermath of WW2 and restored it to the status of great power, and incidentally also prevented a crypto-colonial American takeover of Western Europe.

Regarding the Algerian thing, actually it seems he saw he had to make a choice between giving French nationality to millions of Muslims and fully integrating Algeria, or abandoning it and having the millions European colonizers back. And he chose the latter out of preserving France ethno-religious integrity.
Poor great man, had he known that all now free Algerians would anyway come to France and receive citizenship. :)))

>>2526669
I see no way that could possibly go wrong

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>>2526606
>BRRRRRRRRRR PHBPHBPHBPHBPHB

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>>2527366
/his/ ain't a Francophile board for nothing.

>>2527390
Don't fret now anon. Would've been a waste that I have been indoctrinated every detail of that gentleman's life in class, and then that I not infuse into /his/ threads.

As to him being wary of Great Britain, to hear him discourse on it, that was to ward France of increasing American occupation, be it militarily, or politically even, and to shun Britain was to think on those terms, since Britain had gradually grown closer to the USA through WWII. The Polaris program, as well as Britain's perseverance in grappling from a relationship with the USA some hope to remain a global power (i.e. Churchill calling on Europe to unite, but without the Brits who were above that), persuaded him that the British now sided more with the Anglo-Saxon world than the European world. Also, I think that he bewared British exceptionalism, that Thatcher would come to personify so well: "Reee, we don't want to pay for the EU!", and now Brexit. And also, that it might distract from the French-German power couple destined to rule Europe.

As for Québec, the whole minority had been more than once ridiculed by the remainder of Canada, until de Gaulle scared them with the Québec libre movement, so as you can see, there was some good to it.

>>2527398
That was what urged the greater part of May 1968, yes. There are also politicians to this day who pretend to be outraged at the French system, calling it a presidential monarchy, or even the Vth Republic a "permanent coup d'état" (-Mitterand). Mitterand is the greatest faggot in French history however, and I'd advise not listening to him.

>>2528113
Some day, I'll embark on a quest to awaken /his/ to Mitterand's hypocrisy, and utter evilness, but here's a sneakpeak for now.

>François de Groussouvre
>He was found dead with gunshot wounds at the Élysée Palace, the French President's official residence. The official verdict was suicide.
One of Mitterand's buddies who came to dislike him, so Mitterand had him killed.

>>2526606
Canada's greatest foe.

>>2528113
>There are also politicians to this day who pretend to be outraged at the French system
Why do you say pretend? His style of rule was quite authoritarian. Do you mean they denounced Gaulle while praising the dirigisme he implemented?

>>2526606
Yappy little dog applied to international politics. France was declining as a world power, and in fact was probably no longer a proper Great Power (if the term even means anything post WW2), and consequently sperged out hard on Gallic pride and French independence and dickwavnig in their cultural background to try to distract and avoid the issue.

After him, France will never be a great world power again. The country's spot on the UN Security Council is a tribute to the days of old.

>>2528191
>Why do you say pretend?
Here, I thought best to apply that word since the leading voice in denouncing the authoritarianism he'd endowed on the presidency, François Mitterand, did nothing to amend that when he became president too. It's something that humbles you to say you as a politician should have less power, but no one would ever apply that when in power. (For more reference, see current Mélenchon).

>was quite authoritarian.
But needed, seeing as what state France was muddied by.

>>2528211
> François Mitterand, did nothing to amend that when he became president too.
Didn't know that. By how he talked about Gallue I would have expected immediate reforms.

>seeing as what state France was muddied by.
I kinda agree. If I remember correctly France was a political shitshow right before and right after. I think Gaulle was also the first to suggest that the president be directly elected, an idea that everybody else hated at the time.

>>2526606
I know many Americans and Anglos hate him. But frankly, no matter what you think of France and de Gaulle's ego, you can't deny the guy did everything for his country. Honnestly, I respect him greatly for that.

>>2528235
>right before and right after
*right before WW2 and right after WW2

>>2528235
>By how he talked about Gallue I would have expected immediate reforms.
Again, one day I'll muster it within me to rouse /his/ to what an inhumane politician Mitterand was: >>2528125 (You), but for now know that his outrage at the birth of the Vth Republic was merely something that was adequate for a socialist such as he, especially in that in the 1960s, he was hard-pressed to throw his Vichyist past off from his back.

>political shitshow right before and right after.
Pure legislative democracies, which orchestrated a context in which the executive had been almost discarded, and robbed extensively of the power it should've entertained. Pre-WWII France was, as the expression here would, very Byzantine-minded in how treacherous and distrustful the politics were, and many could be outright exiled from power should that come to be one of whims of the majority of the House of Representatives, and the House had an insane amount of powers too.
IVth Republic France was also geared into becoming in that, especially in that it was born when everybody's need to remind that they weren't an authoritarian fascist, and so the executive too was powerless against the legislative. Teachers here blow us away by reminding us that in the Vth Republic's 10 year lifetime, it had been ruled by 21 président du Conseil. Which wasn't the best of atmospheres for tricky things like Indochina, decolonization and the Cold war to be happening.

>>2528238
Shame about that. People would empathize a heap of a lot more had they read his mémoirs.