Rank these generals

too much work and vulnerable to bias

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>>2518397
>Missing the Sherminator
Its not like the march to the sea invented Modern war or anything. This list is bias to the old timey shit.
Also
>William the conqueror.

>>2518397
Sun Tzu is number 1. Not up for debate, revolutionized ancient thought and warfare, his book is STILL being taught to the US military and others, the vietcong were known to extensively study this book (that is the only reason America studies it).

I mean, there are many number of things which you know today, which seems simply logical (attacking ones weakness instead of strength, how to identify weakness, etc, etc.), schools of thought which were actualy invented by Sun Tzu, which became so prevalent they don't even seem to have a starting point.

Seriously, read the Art of War if you haven't, it will only take a couple of hours for your first time. The lessons are timeless.

Capable:
Napoleon
Hannibal
Pyrrhus
Scipio Africanus
Gustavus Adolphus
Julius Caesar
Alexander the Great
Ewin Rommell
Heinz Guderian
Charles Martel
Gaius Marius
Aurelian
William the Conqueror
Duke of Wellington

Shit tier, only tactic was to increasingly put numbers on the battlefield:
Sun Tzu
Oda Nobunaga
Vasily Chuikov
Georgy Zhukov
Subutai

>>2518466

Alexander should be first, everyone else on that list combined can only stare at what he managed to do.

Also, he never fucking lost.

Everyone else you can zig zag at will.

Why exactly is Pyrrhus considered a great general? Genuinely curious, since I've read about him (a little bit) and I don't get why he's considered outstanding

>no Cyrus the Great
The Greeks and Macedonians would have gotten their shit pushed in by Cyrus's Persia.

>>2518550

Good for them his most capable descendant thought it would be a better idea to invade the Scythians and push into the Ukrainian steppes instead of invading Greece...

...bbhahhahahahahaha fucking lord

>Elder God Tier
Sun Tzu
Themistocles

>God Tier
Scipio Africanus
Alexander

>Great Tier
Napoleon
Cao Cao
Pompey

>Good Tier
Oda Nobunaga
Julius Caesar

>Average Tier
Charles Martel
Erwin Rommel
George Patton

>Bad Tier
Hannibal

>Shit Tier
Pyrrhus

>>2518535

Without him we wouldn't have pyrric victory

>>2518397
>No Khalid Ibn Walid

>>2518623
Exactly, no that anon but a Pyrric victory isn't exactly a good thing. It's a victory in name.

>>2518460
>implying its a single person.

>>2518397
>Rommel

>no Manstein
>no Rokossovsky

kys my man.

>>2518397
>GOAT tier

Subutai
Napoleon
Scipio

>Great tier
Chuikov
Zhukov
Hannibal
Guderian
Pyrrhus

>Good tier

Caesar
Aurelian
Wellington

>Average Tier

Rommel
Nobunaga
Charles Martel
William

>Meme who we know little about tier

Sun Tzu

>No Belisarius

>No Nikephoras Phokas


Anon.................

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>>2518397
>Son Of Zues Amon Tier
Alexander The Great

>Leader Of Man Tier
Julius Caesar
Napoleon
Charles Martel
Aurelian

>Pioneer Of Warfare Tier
Pyrrhus
Hannibal
Scipio Africanus
Gustavus Adolphus
Sun Tzu
Gaius Marius
Duke Of Wellington

>Great General Tier
Ewin Rommell
Vasily Chuikov
Heinz Guderian

>Plague Tier
Georgy Zhukov
Subutai

WILLIAM GET OUUUUUT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>2518904
How is Wellington a pioneer?

Rank these generals
Napoleon
Hannibal
Alexander the Great
Caesar
Gustavus Adolphus
Oda Nobunaga
Ewin Rommel
Scipio Africanus
Duke of Wellington
Sun Tzu
Georgy Zhukov
Phyrrus

>>2518618
>Pompey over Caesar
You're kidding, right?

>>2518466
>Nobunaga
>only tactic was to increasingly put numbers on the battlefield

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Okehazama

>Had Nobunaga decided on a frontal assault, the battle would have most likely been lost, as his army was heavily outnumbered by the Imagawa forces. A frontal assault would have resulted in defeat and an attempt to hold out at Zenshō-ji would have only lasted a few days. Because the odds were against their side, some of Nobunaga's advisers suggested "to stand a siege at Kiyosu". Nobunaga refused, stating that "only a strong offensive policy could make up for the superior numbers of the enemy, and calmly ordered a counterattack."

>Oda left a dummy army at Zenshō-ji with a large number ofbanners, to give the impression that this was the location of his main force. Meanwhile, Oda's main force (between 2,000 to 3,000 men)[7][8]moved through the forest undetected to the rear of the Imagawa army at Dengaku-hazama from the north.[9]:37–38

>The Imagawa samurai did not expect an attack, and that afternoon was very hot. The Imagawa were celebrating their recent victories at Dengakuhazama. An afternoon thunderstorm further shielded Oda's soldiers' advance.[5]

>When the storm passed, Oda's men poured into the camp from the north, and the Imagawa warriors lost all discipline and fled from the attackers. This left their commander's tent undefended, and the Oda warriors closed in rapidly. Imagawa Yoshimoto, unaware of what had transpired, heard the noise and emerged from his tent shouting at his men to quit their drunken revelry and return to their posts. By the time he realized, moments later, that the samurai before him were not his own, it was too late to organize a defense. Yoshimoto was attacked by Mōri Shinsuke and Hattori Koheita. Yoshimoto engaged them in melee, and parried their initial attack, but was soon overcome and killed.

Unrelated but Nobunaga was also known for being a bit of an odd job.

>>2519050
>get lucky with a suicidal attack

Yea, what a "genius"

>>2519062
>Directly contradicts shitpost
>Can only respond impotently with "it was just luck"

sun tzu is a fucking meme author you pretend you read to put on a business portfolio. wouldn't even include him in my top 5 generals of china

theres been way too many good generals (many not included on this list) that we know of for some warless betas on the internet to even rank honestly but the history books i've read usually point to Alexander the Great being a cut above in skill and probably luck.

>>2519201
Sun Tzu (if we can take the liberty of referring to him as a singular individual) had some profound insights on the philosophy of war. It's not a training manual; it's a spiritual guide for the officer in training, poetry that expands and makes expositions on the Dao of warfare.

>>2518550

The Achaemenids were on death's door the moment Darius usurped the throne, that fucker was entirely responsible for its decline and collapse.

>>2518535

He basically taught the world the importance of encampment.

>>2519255
Enlighten me please