Triumph of Communism

>>2512046
Global Venezuela.

>>2512046
Our world would be much more sustainable and ethical

/thread

>>2512051
first post best post

>>2512051
And why would that be?

>>2512046
That's a good question.

>Less/no abject poverty
>Public services are free
>Imperialism eradicated
>Environment treated more sustainably
>Islamism contained
>No mass immigration
>Stronger patronage for culture and education

We'd have no comic book movies and less porn. Make of that what you will.

>>2512155
Because thats how applied to reality delusions work.

>>2512218
You don't get out of this one.

I want you to explain, line by line, why Soviet hegemony would lead to a global food and medicine shortage.

>>2512046
>communist countries with social ideals of equality and inclusiveness
You think marxist-leninism had time for decedent bourgeois nonsense like social equality and inclusiveness? Ha. Marxist-leninism was less globalist than liberalism.

>>2512046
Depends on if they're all within the Soviet sphere or not

Really sad bait. Pathetic puppetting. Not even a you.

>>2512223
Marxism-Leninism is all about equality and inclusiveness.

It's against "globalism" because globalism just means capitalist globalization.

>>2512222
Because the Soviets would have went to war with China eventually, killing millions on both sides and causing a second Cold War between Maoists/Marxist-Leninists

Humans are violent by nature, we can't go a long period of time without war or conflict.

>>2512051
Venezuela is under developing, it's raw

>>2512046
Much better

>>2512136
>>2512174

[Aral Sea draining intensifies]

>>2512235
>Humans are violent by nature, we can't go a long period of time without war or conflict.
Box is enough for this.

>>2512235
Unlikely. China would have buckled toward Soviet socialism, just as it buckled to American capitalism.

Rather that China did not fully accept that capitalism was there to stay until Deng undertook the Southern Tour in 1992, after the Soviet Union had been destroyed.

The big split within a triumphant Soviet bloc would be between evolutionists hoping to hasten the transition to communism and developers preferring to build capital within the context of global state socialism.

>>2512222
Because they weren't even able to supply their population and they were forcing the same policy on their puppet states.
State socialism and central planning just won't properly supply the population with goods.

Also this must bait, but it's too late...

>>2512222
Soviet policies led to food and medicine shortage in its own capital city, amigo.

>>2512247
[[Deepwater Horizon drilling rig explosion]]

>>2512283
>>2512289
The Eastern Bloc was pretty comfortable after WW2. There weren't any shortages until shit fell apart in the late 80s.

Had the Eastern Bloc had access to the same global pool of resources as did the capitalist West, the standard of living would be even higher.

>>2512247
>>2512292
>let me compare a water shortage problem that was completely ignored and even supressed with a single accident on an oil rig.
Also Chernobyl.

>>2512222
> I want you to
F*cking millenials, lol.

No, I'm not going to spoonfeed some spoiled suburnan commie. Read books, practice critical thinking, learn history. Grow up after all, and eventually you'll probably be able to comprehense the true meaning of "equality" along with "social justice" yourself.

>>2512237
Are you assuming that Venezuelans are incapable?

>>2512331
Under construction, I hope

>>2512308
>The Eastern Bloc was pretty comfortable after WW2.
Bullshit. Wealth was nowhere to be compared to the West.

>Had the Eastern Bloc had access to the same global pool of resources.
The thing is, that human capital is unable to develop under state socialism as it would in a proper economy.

But this is definetely bait, I see it now and I'll leave and I advise you not to listen to this bullshit.

>>2512350
>Wealth was nowhere to be compared to the West.
Thanks to Stalin and Churchill. They made us dollar - the planetary currency.

Is this the underage thread?

>>2512369
Yes

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>>2512369

At last i feel like a child waiting in anticipation.

For when automation finally takes over and leaves all the "muh free market" idiots to starvation.

>>2512405
Modern commies fap on automation the same way bolsheviks fapped on electrification and industrialization 100 years ago. They aren't learning nothing.

>>2512443
Only time will tell my friend.

>>2512247
[world environment collapsing from fossil fuel consumption intensifies]

>>2512321
>I hate socialism and love capitalism but I don't understand either

>>2512514
I know for a fact that millions die under socialism.

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>>2512508
[Polluting more than any other nation intensifies]

>>2512350
>Wealth was nowhere to be compared to the West

Because the West had access to essentially the entire resource wealth of the third world! Moreover, their economies were substantially more developed than those of the Eastern Bloc prior to the Cold War.

The only socialist countries which were properly developed prior to WW2 were East Germany, Hungary, and the Czech Republic, and these were ravaged by the war and had to be rebuilt by the Soviets, alongside the devastated USSR itself.

In the current liberal economic order, no third world country has been able to develop on its own. The only poor countries which are now rich countries are those in East Asia and the Middle East that Britain and the USA poured tens of billions into. And all of those economies were developed through highly illiberal capitalist means.

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>>2512527
And hundreds of millions die under capitalism!

>>2512543
>Because the West had access to essentially the entire resource wealth of the third world!
Gee, it's too bad the USSR didn't have a huge developed region filled with resources to exploit

Oh wait that was the entire transuralic USSR

Fuck off commie

>>2512558
>Not spending money on infrastructure in foreign countries is the same as taking active measures to starve your own citizens

There's a difference between dying due to a drought killing your crops and dying due to the government actively confiscating your harvest

>>2512321
>this thing will happen
>why?
>lol f*king millenials they want me to explain my bullshit

>>2512527
nice bait retard

>>2512046
>Ostblok commies
>inclusiveness
They weren't inclusive, they still hated niggers, gypsies, druggies and homos.

t. East Euro

>>2512637
>, they still hated niggers, gypsies, druggies and homos.
Honestly if someone doesn't hate those people they are mentally ill. Unless they are attempting to overcome their conditions, of course.

>>2512654
Yeah. But the idea that they were inclusive like modern western cuck """commies""" are with their gay prides and interracial retardation would be laughable.

The perceived collapse of communism was probably one of the biggest setbacks to societal change and it will be considered as such by future generations. And the enemies of communism have trampled over its remnants like ants paving over it in hopes that it stays there. Had this not happened any talk of social change today wouldn't often be discredited for being labeled as socialist.

>>2512508
>Glorious Soviet Manufacturing Industrial Base
>Ever being dismantled and transitioning to renewable energy.

>>2512587
No Communist government ever took active measures to starve its own citizens.

>>2512566
>Siberia is as resource-rich as the entirety of Africa, South America, the Middle East, and Southeast Asia