Why has America always been so great?

>>2502136
Diversity :)

Because it was founded by Biblical principles.
God Bless the United States of America.

>>2502136

It hasn't. It has always been about exploitation and rich cunts dodging shit whilst the poor paid for it.

The only people who think otherwise are retarded Americans.

>>2502141
This

>>2502141

This is b8 but it's actually part of the real answer.

>>2502136
Bedrock Judeo-Christian values, brilliant founding fathers writing brilliant founding documents, and populated with for the most part Christians.

As the latter became less true, so did the greatness.

>>2502150
Just work harder. Stop blaming successful people for your problems.
>>2502141
True. E pluribus unum.

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why didn't they just fly the eagles to mordor?

>>2502142
>>2502159
/thread

>>2502163
Maybe focusing on which national bird is the coolest is part of the reason why America is the most powerful nation on Earth, and not Australia and Germany. Bald eagles are the coolest eagles because they represent America.

>>2502150
Lol name one great civilization that wasn't like that you fucking commie.

>>2502177

That isn't the point.

>>2502177
The First French Empire?

>>2502163

The Eye of Sauron would have seen them coming and sent out the winged Nazgul to stop them.

>>2502136
Hard nosed Yankee ingenuity is what made America great. It's also what's currently ruining America so think of that what you will

>>2502188
Oh I see now. You're one of those "if it isn't my version of a utopia, it isn't good enough" type idealists.

Can't tell if you're a dirty progressive snowflake or a straight up shit-eating communist, but ill at least agree America isn't perfect. This life isn't perfect and humans will always find a way to fuck up a good thing. Doesn't change the fact that it's still the greatest nation to ever exist on God's green earth.

>>2502163
Except this is wrong. The Wedge Tail Eagle average 4-8 pounds. The Imperial Eagle averages 6-10 ponds. The Bald Eagle 7-14 pounds, far larger and stronger. It's one of the largest eagles in the world.

>>2502136
Enlightenment and liberal values, including freedom of religion, relatively lax immigration policy, low taxes, and free trade.

If you don't believe me, contrast Argentina.

>>2502248

The "well I don't see anything better so ______ isn't bad" 'argument' is extremely shitty.

>Doesn't change the fact that it's still the greatest nation to ever exist on God's green earth.
>progressive snowflake
>shit-eating communist

I don't know if this post is satire or not. Honestly, I'm at a loss.

>>2502163
Aussie eagle looks shitposter-y for an eagle. I have no problems believing it is Australian

>>2502219
Lol take off those rose-colored glasses my friend.

>>2502136
Freeddom

>>2502136
It's a dellusion the mighty have.
I love you U.S, but if keep it that way, you are not going to stay so Great for long.

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Large amount of Liberty right from the start, a massive area to grow into, and an ocean between the cancer of Europe.

>>2502254
It’s wrong you say? So imperial eagles can't shot lasers from their eyes and regularly attack planets?

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>>2502136
lebensraum

>>2502136
because we invented meritocracy

>>2503173
unironically this

>>2502163

american eagle is a graceful bird

quiet unamerican schill

>>2503233
No. The HRE never did that.

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>>2502177
USSR

>>2503408
Literally this. Great Plains farming and the Mississippi River trade reaaaaaally helped. Also 2 gold rushes in our history.

The most noble people, the most egalitarian and moral ideals, the greatest Lord our God, whom we still hold to be paramount to the protection of our liberty and life, and the land that God granted us -no better existing on Earth.

>>2503740
this is a level of autism undocumented

>>2502136
1) first attempt to actually PLAN a government rather than just fugging conquer ppl
2) pragmatic approach of balancing human nature thru structure of political institutions
3) good conditions for success due to religious plurality which created the foundation for religious freedom, large population with lots of cultural diversity which allowed the self-interests of factions to be put against the other factions
4) actual fucking freedom, no standing army (ahaha fucked that up) but instead had voluntary militias, no income tax, actual fucking property, best legal system literally ever

i could go on

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>>2503742
>yuropoors will never EVER know the feel of having all this empty space
no wonder they're so jealous of us.

>>2503758

the army is an apolitical body of the people, that can not be made to act as law enforcement, we don't allow the same follies that the latin and the slav suffer

>>2503770

the russians kind of know the feeling, but it's too a high a concept for many of them to comprehend, so it really is wasted on them

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>>2502141

Look at all that diversity. Nothing but white English Protestants. No Italians, niggers, Polish, Russians, Jews, Mexicans, Chinese, Japanese, Indians, Indonesians, Filipinos, etc. God I love America's diverse history.

>>2502141
This
>>2504361
The fact you posted a painting from when America wasn't great and happen to only include whites is pretty telling desu

>>2504389

but America was great obviously, else our good fathers would not have sought its protection

>>2502136
Healthy disdain for authority and the law but high sense of justice and individual liberty.


I.e. fuck the government do what's right.

>>2504389

This was the most significant event political event in human history.

It has affected countries all over the world.

The fact is you're a spoiled brat that has no concept of time or patience and can't understand why things couldn't always be as they are now.

Immense natural resources scattered across a huge, barely settled continent with extensive rivers, forests, and mountains to support unimpeded growth of both population and industry, all without any existential threats to its security.

>>2502136
It's kinda hard to fuck up when you basically have no immediate threats, shitload of land and resources and almost infinite migratory waves coming from a continent going through massive socio-political upheavals. And then there was those two wars that left you more or less unscathed because they were fought on another continent. Everything else is just bollocks.

>>2504437
>This was the most significant event political event in human history.

Not him, but this is only because of what came after. Had America collapsed soon after this event, it would barely register in human history.

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>>2504437
>This was the most significant event political event in human history.
wew lad
A colony taking the opportunity to rebel when their master is busy fighting against another country? Truly a unique and important part of history that never happen or happen afterwards.

>>2502141
this is the right answer tbqh

>>2502160
>Just work harder. Stop blaming successful people for your problems.
Small loan of a Million $, amirite?

>>2505302
>I have no real talent
>no marketable new ideas
>or experience in any trade
>but I want a real living wage for my labor
>in the retail market selling coffee and breakfast sandwiches

Adapt and overcome bitch. Get useful or get passed by.

>>2505305
This

>>2505305
Are you seriously implying people working in retail do not deserve living wages or something?

Keep dreaming subhuman mongrelised Americuk

>>2504437
>This was the most significant event political event in human history.

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>>2502136

individuality+the fact that its a "new" country and didnt autistically hang onto any retarded old order. Its separation from europe also saved it from autistic new meme ideas like facism or communism.

>>2505811

>waaaaa! wheres my participation trophy waaaa!

>>2506270
Either you're memeing, do not actually know what "living age" entails or just straight up retarded.

>>2506392

your a retard who thinks he can make a living by working a mcjob. Learn a trade and go work somewhere you whining faggot.

>>2502142
>>2502159

try again

>>2502167

http://addictinginfo.org/2013/07/04/35-founding-father-quotes-conservative-christians-will-hate/

also treaty of tripoli

>>2502163
gandalf implied that before he fell down the chasm with the balrog. he said "fly you fools"

there are way more eagles than nazgul

>>2502136
The biggest factor would be that their revolution was founded on principles of freedom and meritocracy and directly after said revolution those in power did not hold on with an iron grip like literally every other revolution

>>2506913
>manifest destiny
>slavery
>revolution was actually an answer to calls for redistribution of wealth
>genocide of native americans

try again

>>2502136
It has never been great. It relied on slavery, the genocide of native americans, and has pretty much been at war constantly since its inception.

P.S. Uruguay is part of "America". Peru and the Caribbean is "America".

The U.S. is only a part of it, and trying to adhere to the Munroe Doctrine shows what a fascist you are.

>>2506268
>separation from europe

oh, is that why you have to ask "permission" from the crown to disseminate colonial archives?

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>>2502163
Most birds can see more of the electromagnetic spectrum though

Crows can see your soul and laugh when you're scared. Hummingbirds only go to good people, etc.

>>2506956
>It has never been great. It relied on slavery, the genocide of native americans, and has pretty much been at war constantly since its inception.
as it has always been, everywhere and with all groups

>>2502248
In one post, everything the world hates about Americans.
>stupidity
>political ignorance
>unjustified pride
>unrepentant greed

>>2506270
>participation trophy to make enough money to live on
I'm fucking ashamed to be American right now. If someone asks permission to fart in public, suddenly they're "entitled crybabies looking for handouts".

Massive natural resources and no serious competition on the continent

Money. Everything and everyone has a price, just like they've always had. If we don't like something, we bribe it until we like it again.

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>>2504437
>This was the most significant event political event in human history.

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>>2507084
>I'm fucking ashamed to be American right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-avpqT5Ldg

>>2507069
A whole lot of generalizations and in-grouping.

>>2504487
>>2506257
>>2507154

>I know absolutely nothing about America because I'm a disgusting foreigner

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_in_America

Advantageous borders, self-sustaining agriculture, and a white population.

>>2503173
This is the true answer. Disregard the entire rest of the thread.

America grew to be powerful due to pragmatic decision making from political elites, as well as having a comparatively high standard of living for its white and immigrant populations (I.E. the ones who had political rights).

America immediately began to decline when it allowed its destitute and uneducated former slave population to vote and hold political power. Enforced separation between white/black society was the only thing that kept together social cohesion as the two groups were too different socially and economically to ever have similar political interest.

>>2508111
Maybe instead of making sure they didn't get an education like everyone else and destroying what ever pockets of prosperity we had your ancestors could have just chilled out

>>2508185
Very true, and now the situation is untenable because those things are now viewed as 'white people shit'.

Personally, I blame reconstruction not going far enough.

>Most politically significant event in human history
>Not the French revolution
Hmmmm

>>2508185

>chill out
>decades later
>BLACKED. WE WUZ KANGS. SMACKS LIPS HOLE UP. CHICONGO. KILLADELPHIA. GORILLAS IN THE MIST

>>2508202
Meant for
>>2504437

>>2502136
Slavery and genocide is not great.

>>2508217
Tell that to Rome, China, Britain, France, Russia, Germany etc.

>>2508224
Non of those white normative shitholes are great.

>>2504437
WE

>>2506880
>your a retard

It's always had plenty of prosperity to leach from the world it infests, like the rest of the "west".
But that time is coming to an end and it will be the last system standing just long enough to see the irony that it destoryed the world that gave it life

>>2504437
>This was the most significant event political event in human history.
I am American, and even I know this is not remotely true. French This was the most significant event political event in human history.
, and RevolutionThis was the most significant event political event in human history.
French Revolution, and empire under Napoleon was more impactful.

>>2506268
That picture is fucking retarded, our intervention policies have been one of the stupidest decisions in US history, and the source of many problems.

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>>2509319
>French Revolution/Empire was more impactful in history.
Apologies.

>>2502141
Why?

I'd argue it was
>massive amount of land
>fertile
>lots of resources
>freedom
>geographic isolated from large threats

>>2509367
Not him, but influx of ideas.
And your points are valid as well.

>>2505305
Agreed. Fuck Trump crybabbies and their inabilty to adapt to a globalized market

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>>2505305
>>2509402
t. жид

Geography

>>2504448
But Mexico and Canada had the same thing.

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>>2509413
Ive known some Jewish Nossies, they're a solid lot.

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>>2504487

That's leaving out the obvious detail that the colony in question would go on to become the most powerful nation in human history.

Stay mad boi

>>2506963
Are you retarded or just pretending to be so autists like me will respond?

>>2502136
-freedom
-freedom
-land of opportunity
-Immigrants
-Freedom

>>2508002
>a vote in a city counts less than one in the middle of bumfuck, alabama.
>democracy.

Jews

>>2502177
Spoken like a true sheep.
No innovation comes from being contend with the status quo.

>>2502136
8/8 b8 m8

>>2509402
>learn a trade
>work it for years
>government decides to rapidly shift trade policy
>Both relevant parties are on board with this, so there's no political recourse
>Lose job to some third world shithole with no environmental or safety standards

Truly, this is the same as getting a Women's study degree and ending up folding clothes at the GAP.

>>2502141
fpbp

>>2502136
Small government values at a time where every other European nation was having their wife fucked during their wedding night by the king. It was easier to do business and it was easier to own land.

>>2507069
>>political ignorance
Because we're not shit-eating communists? Get fucked you fabian sack of shit, if I see you I'll kill you.

>>2504361

This.

>>2510840
Fabian tactics won you fucking retard

>>2510819
Stop being a bitch and learn a new trade.

>>2508274
>China
>white normative

>>2505305
nice slave mentality you massive cuck.

This is the kind of sociopathic, individualistic-authoritatian indoctrination America depends on to keep its machines well oiled and pumping out surplus profits.
>how dare somebody be able to raise there kids properly, they got to work hard to live just like everybody else, except for the brilliant and great people who reap the benefits, these welfare queens should be more successful like the people I work for.

>>2510923
Yup, as easy as that. All those tech startups in coal country, it should be easy for a 57 year old miner to pop in for a training course and an internship.

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>>2512301
Poor coal miners are exploited along with the land and have their liveyhoods held at randsom for voting against their own intrests.
If anyone cared about coal country they would be trying to make coal gtfo.
People can just tell their wageslaves what they have to vote for to keep the bread a coming.
Exploited for profit along with the ecological systems they depend on, told to fuck off and pay their own bills when the miners lung happens, now the stream protection act as already been removed and just like the miners the public pays the price with its health while the industrialists are left to their riches.

Main reason why I hate donald, I could deal with everything else if he wasn't all for the unethical exploitation of people and the world they live in. Voting in land barrons to solve the proletariats problems. The republicans were always bad at this and so are the democrats, they just tend to do it to third worlders instead of their constituents. We are going into competion with the places we used to exploit. Fuck my shit up

>>2504437
>Americans are this delusional about their importance in history

>america
>great

>>2508202
>directly influenced the French Revolution and the rhetoric of the revolutionaries
hmmmm

>>2512301
There's no reason a 57 year old can't get re-trained, unless they don't have enough money, then they should have worked harder, its that hypothetical 57 year old's ideologies, not mine.

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>>2504437
>This was the most significant event political event in human history.

UNTOUCHED NATURAL RESOURCE EZ

>Butthurt foreigners mad about the American Revolution being the most important event in the last 300 years

Two words that ruin your greatness.
HEALTH CARE

Who says the US is not great should go fuck yourself.

>>2514691
The point is that not everyone lives in a city, dumbass. If you live out in the middle of the sticks and the one major local employer up and leaves, you're pretty boned.

Because they has been helped by frenchies and irishs to unleash america from UK. And US built laws on napoleonic civil code. but after they did the genocide of the native-americans. They helped allies at ww1 and ww2, that was pretty great ! but after that great american move they bombed Japan and now we have 4chan

>>2516166
Made LGBT shit normal.
Made feminism normal.
Made being a ghetto chimp normal.
Bling-bling MTV/hollywood "culture".
Made porn normal.
Made race-mixing normal.
Made divorce normal.
Made broken families normal.
Spawned possibly every degeneracy you can and can't imagine and will continue to do so in the next decade.
>L-look there is a fucking flag on the moon! Aren't we great?

>>2518303
Hm but anon all of the things you've listed are actually good

>>2518321
Yeah if you are a degenerate. b8

The next time you walk somewhere on the planet and you see an abomination like a girl with a penis, or 2 brothers fucking each other you can be 100% sure that this practice came from the US. Thanks America.

Thanks for fighting for the right of every male on the planet being able to fuck a man. You are great.

>>2515742
>>2512507
Yeah my idea of making America great again is bringing back biodiversty, and functioning socio-ecological systems.
Doesn't look like the current trend will stop until it has nowhere else to go.
The biggest driver of change is the individual, study life local to you, preserve biodiversty, and utilize it to grow your own life. States and markets will not help us.
Maybe we would be okay if one day everyone woke up as a libertarian ecologist.
You have the power to save the future
If you want to get into politics advocate for land and agrarian reform, and form your own institutions. Plant a seed, domesticate a plant, restore and protect habitat, communicate with other sane people.
We are under the delusion that the state and money are our overlords.
Just say fuck it.
Btw biodiveristy, habitat, and agroecology are the only resources that are worth investing in now a days.

Here's how it goes
Russia > US > USSR
Russia =/= USSR
Today's Russia is authoritarian capitalism, democracy is a shite ideology (you know how the people used to say it, democracy is the sister of communism)

>>2502141
Bait but diversity of Europeans is demonstrably what made US great, not objective diversity.

>>2502274
From the Wikipedia page

>"Early in 1967, the Australian Army2nd Cavalry Regimentreceived its new badge, a wedge-tailed eagle swooping, carrying a lance bearing the motto "Courage" in its talons. The regiment's mascot is a wedge-tailed eagle named "Courage". Since its formation, there have been two, Courage I and Courage II. In 1997, while on flight training with his handlers, Corporal Courage II refused to cooperate and flew away, not being found for two days following an extensive search. He was charged with being AWOL and reduced to the rank of trooper. He was promoted back to corporal in 1998.[15][16]"

>>2518402
>Here's how it goes
According to what? Standard of living?

If it goes according to power then:
USA>USSR>Russian Empire (Golden Era)>Modern Russia>Russian Empire (WW1 Era)

>>2504437
>spoiled brat

Why do i see shit slinging everytime like i guess its normal for people to do but godamn its like people get genuinly pissed when you present ideas that go against their own its always so quick to belittle. No one can ever be wrong about something or make a mistake its just
>I am not going to listen to you now because obviously you are retarded since you do not agree with me

>>2506880
>doesnt whine
>questions your "WAAA PARTICIPATION AWARD" bitchy post

And yeah obviously he must work at mcdonalds because hes so dumb right!!!

Yes im sure you could explain to be why its bad but its just so lame to see someone lash out because someone disagrees with them

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not

>>2504437
Hi, I'm here to laugh at you.

>>2504448
>>2504454
these

>>2516326
You blind idiot all he's doing is applying Trumpster's shitty, selfish "WAAAA libcuck crybaby wanna handout" logic to your dumbass whining about globalism

>>2510841
Are you retarded? You think those are the only guys responsible for America's greatness. They made the constitution but they're not the hundreds of thousands of foreign-born laborers in the mid 1800s that turned America into an industrial powerhouse on the fast track to catching up with even the most advanced European nations.

>>2510840
You're quite the badass for a twelve year old

>>2514677
No you historically illiterate dumb-as-rocks ignorant piece of fucking shit. The french revolution had been stewing for decades before the American revolution. By that time shit was already in motion.

1776-1810: Showed the world that it was possible for a large, technologically advanced country to be a democracy, without reverting to worshipping some home-grown Emperor.
1810-1900: Literally unlimited resources there for their taking, thanks to the decimation of aboriginal peoples.
1900-present: Hasn't been any greater than other countries t.B.h.

>>2518365
>The next time you walk somewhere on the planet and you see an abomination like a girl with a penis, or 2 brothers fucking each other you can be 100% sure that this practice came from the US. Thanks America.

So you admit that the US has such amazing political, social, and economic clout to influence the entire planet into reducing its prejudices that have held sway for thousands of years across the world, and that's not a sign of its greatness?

Success breeds jealousy indeed.

>>2519993
With great power comes great responsibility.

Knowing that other nations will emulate America, BECAUSE they think America is great makes it so much worse.

You wouldn't get drunk/stoned in front of a small child.

>>2504455

ANY historical event could be summarized in hads, ifs, and what ifs. To detract or enhance their significance.

>>2504487

I get the feeling you haven't read much about any history, let alone American history beyond pop culture.

>A people does the unthinkable and decides to rebel against the British.
>Overthrows tyrannical and unaccountable dictatorship
>The man who lead the revolution is offered by his army's officers to be the first king of America
>George Washington speaks to his men and politely declines
>This man was instead elected to be the first president of the United States of America
>There was no limitation on how many terms a president may be in office, but he chose to serve 2 terms.

>In europe leaders are self-appointed for life
>Meanwhile in America ie the first civilized country on Earth, an American citizen is elected by the people. for a maximum of 8 years, then steps down from power voluntarily.

Autistic green texting aside, just take a deep breath and truly appreciate what democracy in America looks like. Whether we're a nation that's barely a nation at all or the most powerful nation to ever exist, each president is elected and peacefully steps down from power.

>Except the one time this douche bag named FDR decided to run for 4 terms and we passed a law that legally restricted it to 2.

Seriously fuck you FDR, that was some shit the redcoats would do.

>>2518303

waahhhh wahhhhhh wahhhhh wahhhhhh

everything bad is america's fault! grow up child.

Can you think of anything good that came from America?

HINT : You shitpost from it.

>>2518402

Any russian that has moved from russia to America will call you a retard. While they love their motherland for old times sake, there is little for them to do there.

>democracy is a shite ideology

it's the least god awful ideology you mean.

>>2519550

This is 4chan.

I say exactly how I feel about a subject. That includes calling someone a retard because ridicule is part of the process called a healthy discussion. Oh ya and so is democracy.

Civil discussion with mutual respect is reserved for face to face discussions or online forums where formality and courtesy are heavily enforced.

I nor anyone else is obligated to type out a well written response to every one liner insult typed up by some random subhuman foreigner about my country's history.

Because

1.) It would most likely be beyond your comprehension.

2.) Stupidity is asymmetric ie it takes alot more work to answer a question than it takes to ask questions.

>>2519983

Yes, a revolution that seeks to overthrow the aristocracy happens in europe for the first time EVER only after 1776.

Coincidence I'm sure, nah just kidding it's widely known outside of /his/ that the 'brewing' part of the French Revolution was inspired by the successes of the American Revolution.

http://libx.bsu.edu/cdm/ref/collection/ConspectusH/id/243

>>2520024
You've never been to California School Systems
That's literally all they do

>>2520366
You can also look at what the French did with their revolution as an extreme shit Euro example of how America could have gone.

>>2520468
I agree with everything you just said but the way you format your posts makes me want to punch you in the throat.

>>2520366
>>A people does the unthinkable and decides to rebel against the British.

Wow, you're right, absolutely no one else in history had ever thought to rebel against the English crown before.

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>>2502141

>>2509587
Mexico and Canada aren't white