Damascus steel and other unexplainable mysteries

>What did the ancients know that we do not?
Literally tons.

>>2502121
Aliens helped them then they fucked off

>>2502121
They forgot more than we know.

This current "we know more than everyone ever did" bullshit is about to come crumbling down.

>>2502121
>Damascus steel is pleb tier

The Noric steel is patrician tier tho

>>2502131
>about to
what changed?

Aren't some pieces of chainmail still incredibly hard to reproduce?

>>2502184

The middle to the end. That's what's changing. We're through the middle, and very fast approaching the end of this age. Like this year fast.

>Steel
>hard to produce
we've been doing it well and better then them for quite some time now.

>>2502220
>>>/reddit/

>>2502146
Nordics thinking their bogtrotting BLACKED """smiths""" can compete with superior Mediterranean Toledo Steel.

The whole "we can't replicate Damascus steel" thing is bullshit

>>2502121
Modern steels are better than all exotic premodern steels from around the world. Full stop. The only reason to chase after pattern welded or exotic steels is aesthetics

>>2502121
We can replicate something similar. We can't replicate the exact thing because no one wants to. Modern steel is better, and no one wants spend major money to throw leaves and shit into crucible furnaces.

>>2502121
We can't replicate them because we have no written record of the process. We can try to replicate it through various methods, but unless we find written records we'll never be sure which method was the one used. However the quest of finding this knowledge is purely academic and born out of curiosity, not need. The steel we can produce today is better in every way. Same with Byzantine fire, we can speculate, we can try, we wont know unless we find a written formula. And again, we don't need it, we're just curious.

>>2502131
>>2502220
AYO HOL UP DAS WOKE

>>2502146
nordic steel was literally imported damascus steel

>>2502121
It's not that we can't replicate them so much as we don't know if we are replicating them in the first place when we make an attempt, because the exact technique has been lost to time. We may very well have surpassed these techniques centuries ago, but simply revere these things anyway because of their legendary status in history.

There's nothing really special or out-of-place in damascus or byzantine fire. We can't reproduce them because nobody knows what they were exactly but that doesn't mean that we couldn't make our own substances with similar properties. We just won't know how close to the original we get.

>>2504130
isn't it safe to assume that it worked like a flame thrower?

>>2504314
more like napalm