*charges nakedly at your double walled fortification*

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fucking romanshits, get out

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It's weird how they were so barbaric in some aspects but at the same time they had written language since 500 BC, roads and were extremely skilled at metallurgy. They were so close to becoming a real civilization.

>>2495815
It's sad what happened to them honestly

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ROMANS GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>2495815
It's their half-IE religion that fucked them in the ass. Should've followed a Greek derivative or just maintained the pre-IE thing they had back in Germania.

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>>2495760
come a little bit closer, "guys"

>>2495843
Yeah the caste system didn't do them any good but honestly it's the fact that they failed to unite or create any semblance of unity until the Romans showed up as a powerful empire on their doorstep

Sad really, the Germans had a similar way of life but got away with it because they unified

>>2495849
The Germans didn't unify until way after Classical Antiquity was over.

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>>2495815
This. The Gauls weren't mudhut niggers like the Celts of Britain and the Germanics. They were seen as a real threat to Rome like Carthage.

>>2495863
They were no match for the Romans in open battle. Their cavalry was pretty good, though.

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>>2495878
They were pretty much even around 400 BC, when the sack of Rome by Brenus happened. It was not until much later that the Romans developed superior technology and superior military tactics to them.

>>2495815
It's almost like "barbarism" is meaningless and doesn't actually reflect the reality of the time

>>2495843
You don't strike me as someone who knows anything about antiquity, particular religion in antiquity

>>2495849
The Celts had as much of a caste system as the Romans did. In truth, neither of these groups had a caste system. Social stratification != caste system

>>2495863
None of those groups were "mudhut niggers", and the Germans had urban or proto-urban settlements themselves. 2nd century geographer Ptolemy lists 94 poleis in Germania

>>2495878
>>2495901
Roman military success against the Gauls owes more to Caesar's particular military intellect, a much larger manpower pool, and a greater average troop quality due to the Marian reforms, then any kind of simplistic, video-gamey "Romans had more points in the tech tree" idea.

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>>2495937
>None of those groups were "mudhut niggers"

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>>2496050

>>2496050
Comfy af tbqh familia

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>>2496057
Stilt houses are better. Italy had those since 2100 BC:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polada_culture
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terramare_culture

>>2495863
The Britons were more advanced than the Gauls

>>2496096
no

>>2496086

http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/bronze-age-stilt-houses-unearthed-in-east-anglian-fens

So did the British. And they had roads, and advanced metalworking, and irrigation, and tin mining and built brochs and they built their own artificial islands in Scotland. They weren't stupid, they just no reason to live in any other way than they did.

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>>2496110
But Italy developed the Etruscan civilization from those cultures while they regressed into mudhuts instead. It goes like this Polada >>> Terramare >>> Villanova >>> Etruscans >>> Romans. The British Celts never advanced like they did.

>>2495760
Whenever someone makes one Celtic thread where bound to have at least 5 others.

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>yfw you will never live in a hill fort as comfy as this

>>2496140

No because they didn't have any reason to. And they didn't "regress" into mudhuts, some people lived in them, some lived in wattle and stout houses, some people lived in forts, some people lived in middows.

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>>2496213
There were several groups of Celts in Britain. We can already see from the Gauls that they weren't equal in terms of how 'civilized' they were. Some were mudhut dwellers dancing naked in the forest, others were probably a bit more advanced. It is worth noting that things like the Stonehenge weren't built by the Celts that came later, but by an early wave of farmers from Anatolia, who would be closest to modern Sardinians today. Sardinia had the Nuragic civ that lasted until they were conquered by Romans: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuragic_civilization

>>2495843
>half-IE religion
What are you on ?

Gauls were Indo-europeans same goes for their religion.

>>2496229

They don't know who started building stonehenge, but they do know it took over 3000 years to complete. So no, it wasn't Nuragics.

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>>2496263
I'm not saying it was the same exact people who lived in Sardinia, but they descended from the same Anatolian farmers who brought agriculture to Europe and blanda upped with the native hunter gatherers. Indo-Europeans came to Britain in 2100 BC. Stonehenge was pretty much already finished at this point. The Celts decided it to use it as a religious site late.

>>2496263
It took over 3000 years to complete? how do we know that?

>>2495837
That's an Anglo-Saxon Paehpe.

>>2496345
It didn't. Construction started it in 3100 BC and finished in 1600 BC. But by the time Indo-Europeans came only small re-arrangements were made to the stones. Stonehenge 3 IV was basically complete already: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonehenge#Stonehenge_1_.28ca._3100_BC.29

>>2496050

huts of that size were used for storage or basket weaving

>>2496213

when people say "mudhuts" in regard to celts or germanic people they mean wattle and daub. I don't think they ever had literal mud huts

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*flies away*

>>2496564
kek

Why did the Gauls have a boar fetish

>>2497356
Boars are dangerous and scary as hell.

Imagine being iron age man and having to go fight one because it mauled your favorite horse something.

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Is this what an ancient Celtic warrior looks like

>>2495843
>It's their half-IE religion
wut
>the pre-IE thing they had back in Germania.
wut

>>2497462
Internet Explorer was a huge deal in the ancient word dude

>>2497506
Go a genuin laff oot this aye , cheers hen xxx

>>2497462
>>2496236
>>2495937
It is generally believed Celtic religion has elements of Indo-European general religion, such as the cult of the horse, and the dominant male aspect of society in tribal scale (as opposed to previous more female influenced cults), but it wasn't entirely typically IE like other groups.
What we find in their most ancient regions while in Europe, in modern Germany, is sometimes mixed with older non- or pre-IE artifacts. And the older we go, the less IE elements it has. Eventually the remains stop being typical Iron Age culture and just go into the Bronze Age but some IE elements remain.

>>2497455
No, McGregor is able to maintain that level of fitness through a strict diet and exercise routine. Celts would have more fat as a result of their diet, and didn't exercise to the extent of an MMA fighter.

>>2497718
Let me rephrase

Were the ancient celts crass and brutish bearded redheads?

>>2497726
Sure.

>>2496550
>wattle and daub.
Wtf is wrong with wattle and daub?

>>2497356
Wasn't that like one tribe?

>>2495815
>they had written language

What? They did? I thought they never got to that point.

>>2497578
You're the confusing the Germans(Pre Indo-European I Haplogroup) with the Gauls (Indo-European R1B )

The Gauls had the three caste system, their Gods were mainly masculine, with a few exception like Epona, and they practiced polygamy and the women were killed when their masters/husbands died. There is not trace of matriarchy among the Gauls, the only "Celts" who had a matriarchy were the Britons.

If I wanted to know about Gallic and Briton society what books should I read?

Sometimes on 4chan I get the impression that Italians are the most insecure people about their history in western Europe, despite having absolutely nothing in their history to be insecure about (except the world wars).

Has anyone else thought this?

>>2499477
Its kinda like the French

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Tell me about gallic shipbuilding traditions /his/. Did they survive into roman occupation? Did they write their techniques down?

>the women were killed when their masters/husbands died
What
I've never heard of anything like that regarding the Gauls, and that's completely incompatible with the fact that Gallic women could initiate divorces

>>2499852
Regarding
>>2499402
Of course

>>2495760
Is the blue paint or tattoos?

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>>2499226
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_first_written_accounts

>Gaulish
>500 BC

I think it was only in Mediterranean France where they had contact with the Greeks though. Not sure if it spread to the rest of Gaul or not.

>>2495937
>more to Caesar's particular military intellect
>a much larger manpower pool
>and a greater average troop quality due to the Marian reforms

Sounds like they put 3 points into their tech tree, you overwhelming faggot.

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>>2499477
The problem is that "Italian" history doesn't start after 1861, when this piece of shit country was created. The northern and central Italian city-states have a proud history, while the terroni were irrelevant niggers being subjugated by other people.

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>>2496564
>mfw a naked Celt with javelins soars over my cohort and all the pilae and ballistae miss him

Oh Neptune...

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>>2499919
>Berlusconia

Top kek

>>2499864
It's woad, a type of blue paste

>>2499650
Celts didn't like writing because they thought relying on writing to remember things made there memory dull. This is why most of what we know about the celts came from romes perspective.

>>2500172
That's a stupid excuse. The only Celts that developed written language early on were the southern Gauls, Lepontics and Celtiberians. All due to Italic/Greek influence.

>>2500184
Its not an excuse thats what they believed.

>>2500249
They made up excuses because they were dumb.

>>2500265
They where so dumb that they invented mail.

>>2500270
Some Celts living in bumfuck Romania have nothing to do with the Celts of Britain. Mail was also invented independently by the Etruscans.

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>>2495760
What's Guy Fieri doing there?

>>2500285
>Some Celts living in bumfuck Romania have nothing to do with the Celts of Britain.
They still had Mail so whats your point about romania?
>Mail was also invented independently by the Etruscans.
Yes but wasn't it very diffrent from celtic mail?

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>>2500320
Sending the Romans to FlavorTown

>>2500328
kek

>>2500172
What about the boats?

>>2500613
I do not know anything about there boat building unfortunately. I would like to though.

>>2499868
Neat, I remember a few months ago /his/ going off on me about how stupid the gauls were since they left no written accounts of themselves.

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Love it when threads go side by side like this

>>2496096
No.

gaulish women love Roman cock

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>>2501618
not as much as roman women love Gaulish cock

>>2499919
I can confirm, Terroni and Sardinians have 0 history, it's all colonialism (Greeks, Arabs, Byzantines and Normans)

>>2500320
HI I'M GUYIX FERRIX AND TODAY WE'RE GOING GONNA VISIT SOME OF ROME BEST DIVE-IN'S

>>2501755
GAULED.com

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>>2499919
>>2501765
No bully Sardinia.

>>2499919
>being a norduck

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>>2495760
Naked Warriors were an ancient Celtic/British Celt thing.

The Continental Celts can stand toe to toe with """civilized"""" soldiery considering they were the premiere Mercenaries of the 200s-100s BC classical world.

>>2500172
>>2500172

Are you sure you aren't just mistakenly paraphrasing Socrates?

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>>2503097
Celts then.

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>>2503137
Celts now.

What went wrong?

>>2503140
romans, germanics, franks, vikings and anglos

>>2503140
There is Shit ton of celtic genes around europe.
>>2503097
That picture... Where are those celts i never knew them to meet blacks.

>>2503184

A bunch of Gauls migrated and formed a kingdom in the Balkans and kingdom in central Anatolia (modern day Turkey).

The Ptolemies later hired a bunch of the Gauls in Anatolia as soldiers and settled them in Egypt.

>>2503313
That's badass. Never knew they made it out there.

>>2503313
Celt kingdom in central Turkey? Holy shit, the more you know.

>>2503324
ever heard of GALICIA??

>>2503426
i meant GALATIA, so sorry

>>2503434
>>2503426
I wonder how much Celtic genes they still have.

>>2501765
> it's all colonialism (Greeks, Arabs, Byzantines and Normans)
thats interesting history in itself.

>>2496140
I see images like this all the time but it doesn't seem like you'd have enough population/manpower in a village that size to build defenses that sophisticated. Are palisade walls and ditches easier to make than I think, or did they have help from some surrounding population of farmers that also expected to get some use out of the defenses?

>>2503155
>franks, vikings and anglos
All of these are Germanic.

>>2500613
>>2499650
Still need to know about the boats guys

Gaulish boats looked cool.

Did their building techniques continue?

>>2501765
Sardinia has some interesting native history in the early middle ages when the bizantines stopped caring. It also has an interesting language.

>>2495815
They didn't. It was the Minoan/Greek merchants that traded with them did.

>>2499477
No, it's more like we really do not give a fuck. We know we are the most important people in history but we don't boast like idiots not to sound pretentious.
But everybody knows we are THE people, come on.

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>>2504791
>Latins lived in mudhuts before contact with Etruscans, so the rest of their achievements doesn't matter because of that

(You)

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>>2504894

>>2501755
>Asterix and the Banquet

>>2504829
>We know we are the most important people in history but we don't boast
Hmmmmm

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>>2500956
I don't think I've ever seen one that topped this one from /a/.

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>>2495760

>>2505176
Well, they asked for it, they recieved the answer. Time for a reality check kiddo...

>>2495794
>don't cross me or my son's Rhine ever again

>>2505563
haha nice

>>2499919
yes but also lombardia and veneto were ruled by strangers

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>>2504894
>Etruscans
Muh master race heritage

>>2503725
those houses at the time housed more then a single family. One house could house up to 5 families sometimes

>>2500328
fucken saved

Wish I was a Celtic warrior running about with my bollocks hanging out shanking romans

>>2503140
just because they speak English now doesn't mean all traced of Celtic bloodline are gone

>>2497356

Boar are vicious beast tanks. They've been respected throughout history by the people who hunted them.

During the middle ages nobles would hunt boar in part to prepare to war. The general idea was that if you had the balls to corner an angry boar and stand your ground as it charged you while dealing with the gory aftermath of butchering the boar... then you're probably ready for war.

More than a few nobles had their story end when the boar got the upper hand in that exchange.

>>2495937
>It's almost like "barbarism" is meaningless and doesn't actually reflect the reality of the time
>None of those groups were "mudhut niggers"
They had no written language, no large scale stone construction and little urbanization besides the area around Marseilles which was practically Greek not Gallic, tribes were engaged in near constant low scale warfare, there was no large scale organization.

Everyone's distant ancestors were primitive backwards savage barbaric mudhut niggers and we all freely accept this because facts are facts, except you, Piérré, because the French are such special snowflakes.

>>2506152
But it means that Celtic culture has almost been entirely pushed to the fringes of Europe.

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>>2506276
>they where mudhut niggers
Just because they don't make houses out of stone doesn't mean there mudhut niggers. Fucking Romeboo is mad because where not talking about how great the Romans are.

>>2503140
>wales
>loyal to the english but still generally do their own thing
>not uppity at all throughout the entirety of their history
>still speak their own language and are a very satisfied people
where did scotland and ireland go so wrong?

>>2507216
Man had pride and testicles.

>>2507216
>Ireland going wrong
Being its own country

>>2507294
what i meant to say was Ireland never went wrong.
post made more sense in my head

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>>2502815

>>2507697
Unironically gave me a stiffy thinking about red headed muscular gallic savages ravaging beautiful Latin women

>>2495794
Is that fucking asterx and obelix

>>2508496
Alt art is fun,yeah.

>>2507697
I love that guy's face so much...

>>2503465
Not much, this thousands of years ago and the Galatians often traveled far away as mercenaries so their genetic footprint in the region would be next to nothing.

>>2506346
not living in stone buildings is literally the definition of being a mudhut savage. They literally lived in mudhuts and the richest among them had rudimentary wooden structures. That is the definition of barbarian shit.

>>2508802
>Americans are woodhut niggers by their own definition

Or drywall niggers,whatever floats your boat

>>2508802

>get BTFO by barbarian shits

>>2508706

I hear there are some blue eyed people in the part of Egypt the Ptolemies settled the mercenaries.

>>2508822
You can find the mutation for blue eyes in most populations in the hemisphere.

Keep in mind that the population of Egypt back then was 5-10 million. A few thousand mercenaries are not going to make any significant dent in that.

>>2508802

They had stone walls for their cities.

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>>2508802
>not living in stone buildings is literally the definition of being a mudhut savage.
Do you really think this? the majority of people in the world lived in wood and clay houses. Even today.
>They literally lived in mudhuts and the richest among them had rudimentary wooden structures.
I think people would share houses. And rudimentary? look at pic related and >>2496165