>reading about the battle of leuctra is there anything more

>>2489098
Reading about Athens getting btfo?

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>>2489106
>win peloponnesian war
>within a decade the poleis that were calling for the complete dismemberment of athens as a city are now allied with them against you because you're this bad at foreign policy
spartan were chimps

>>2489098
Thebes getting btfo.

>>2489129
>expecting rational action from citizen bodies who saw their state as a tool to improve their own quality of life
>blaming spartan foreign policy while conveniently ignoring the role of Theban/Corinthian propaganda in turning the Greeks against the polis they'd hailed as liberators only years before

Stupid frogposter.

>>2490333
>we're liberating the Greeks guise!!1!
>overthrows all the governments and creates new ones personally loyal to the top commander of Sparta
>uses Persian money and support to do so
Why are Spartans such chimps?

>>2489098
>Spartans fought in the Greco-Persian wars which brought about the Rise of Athens
>Spartans fought in the Peloponnesian war which brought about the Fall of Athens
>Spartans were responsible for both the prosperity and decline of Athens

really makes you think

>>2491852
Athens was already on the rise before the Spartans got involved