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The origins of Buddhism

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>Throughout Buddhist art, Bodhidharma is depicted as an ill-tempered, profusely-bearded, wide-eyed non-Chinese person. He is referred as "The Blue-Eyed Barbarian" (Chinese: 碧眼胡; pinyin: Bìyǎnhú) in Chan texts.[10]
>White people LITERALLY taught Chinese about Buddhism
>Chinese people turned it into a spiritual-less, Taoism-influence pile of filth obsessed with bullshit like "Elixirs of life"
>Chinese people today actually believe they invented Buddhism and its "deepness" is proof of how superior they are

Really fires up the old brain cells.
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Buddha Shakyamuni was a blue-eyed Scythian as per Buddhist scriptures, and said that those with dark skin were demons.
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>>2485793
>>Chinese people today actually believe they invented Buddhism and its "deepness" is proof of how superior they are

this isn't at all true is it? I'm sure they are very aware of its Indian or trans-Himalayan origin. I don't know anything about the penetration of Buddhism into China, was it through central Asia, across the Himalayas or via Indochina and the sea?
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This kinda falls into the same shaky territory as Evola's ideas about Aryan Buddhism. It is most likely that Bodhidharma did not exist as an actual historical figure but was a composite of the teachers of the time, and reflective of the spread of ideas. Historical accounts on the Buddha's actual appearance are mostly unreliable - the same sources that describe him as a light skinned person will also describe kings with ten heads. It's not far fetched to assume that he was good looking, as powerful historical figures tend to be, and that there were variations in skin tones between castes and he could belong to a lighter skinned family, but I really think this whole thing reeks of racist nonsense. The actual Buddhist teachings don't concern skin color in the least,
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>>2485793
>Chinese people today actually believe they invented Buddhism and its "deepness" is proof of how superior they are
Uh no. Considering that a lot of the Buddhist myths they have refer to India a lot.

They invented what came next after Bodhidharma: Chan buddhism. Which is the Buddhism of East Asia.

I mean, imagine a weird foreign barbarian preaching a religion that to your Confucian, centralized, filial culture, sounded a WHOLE LOT like social irresponsibility. But he did make a lot of valid points about Noble Truths and whatnot. Imagine bombarding Buddhism with Confucian morality and Taoist metaphysics for it to make sense to the East Asian mind. That is Chan buddhism.

That is what they made up. But they do know its from fucking India.

>>2485806
Chinese tradition puts Bodhidharma as someone from the lands of the Kushan Empire, making him Indo-Iranian.
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>>2485830
>It is most likely that Bodhidharma did not exist as an actual historical figure but was a composite of the teachers of the time, and reflective of the spread of ideas.
This is pure bullshit.

>The actual Buddhist teachings don't concern skin color in the least,
True. In the very same sutta where the Buddha says that people with dark skin were considered demons, he says that even them can be students of the Buddha. In fact, the Buddha is called the teacher of gods and men, and, it is assumed, also demons, as every being can reach enlightenment if he sincerely strives for it. There is a continuum between gods, men, ghosts and demons. We can infer that the dark races are further on the side of the demonic, and the lighter, on the divine side of the spectrum.
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It's undeniable fact that the Chinese tried to Sinify Buddhism and at the very least, mask its Indo-Aryan origins.
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>>2485852
>mask its Indo-Aryan origins.
>Buddha is always a curly haired blue eyed cunt in Chinese sculptures.
Is this white wewuzism & victim complex power hour?
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>>2485859
Where exactly? There are more statues of that fat cunt Budai than there are Siddharta Gautama.
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>>2485860
>Complains about Buddha.
>Brings up Budai.
There is a lot of fucking Buddha statues in China. He's always curly haired and blue eyed on em to depict how foreign he was. Some statues even put the meme Indian dot on his forehead.

It's not my problem if ABCs can't differentiate from the two.
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>fake chinese buddhism survived
>based indo-greek syncretic buddhism died
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>>2485870
Maybe those Greek cunts shouldve fought the Yuezhi and the Kushans harder, no?
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Buddha was a poo in loo.
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>>2485889
>The Shitfold Path.
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>>2485889
This is literally what Europeans are going to look like 2,000 years from now. sad.
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>>2485876
The Kushans actually adopted that branch of Buddhism and sponsored it. However the fact that Bactria and Afghanistan was basically where all later tribes of steppe horsefuckers ended up didn't help their culture being preserved.
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>>2485921
Are Mongoloids basically the real villains of history, not the whites?

>Chinese ruined Buddhism
>Annihilated Caucasian central asian tribes like the Sogdians
>Mongolians had blood lust on a level that makes WW1 look sane
>Have autism as a sort of racial trait
>No empathy
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>>2485946
You forgot the worst:

>Shit art and architecture

Regardless of what you think about poos, their architecture blows Chinese crap out the water
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>>2485904
Nah. Trump got elected, Le Pen will get elected, the right path continues.
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>>2485852
>>2485849
>>2485839
>>2485830
>>2485806
>>2485800
>>2485793
Buddhism is from ancient pre-Zoroastrianism and shares alot w/ Thustra

so is Sikhism
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>>2487630

What a fool you are. Zoroastrianism is far, far older than Buddhism, Sikhism is a very recent religion.
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>>2485946
Horse People are the scum of the earth and the bane of every civilization
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>>2485849
The problem is "how dark is dark?" would an olive skinned Italian person be light enough for Buddha? An Arab? An Indian? A amemrindian?

Where is the line drawn?
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>>2487668
>lack of reading comprehension

what part of Dharmic comes from pre-Thustra dont you understand?
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>>2485946
preach bro preach

mongoloids were cute little eskimos before the Caucasoids taught them everything they knew and what did the Caucasoids get in return?

They were east asian mongoloids
their invasion resulted in the rape and genocide of Indo-European peoples living throughout all of central asia and the middle east. Central Asia is now full of mixed race Elliot Rodgers thanks to them.

Mongoloid raids and invasions as some of the deadliest conflicts in human history.

Large areas of Asia were seriously depopulated,[6] as every city, village or town was subject to destruction. Each soldier was required to execute a certain number of persons, with the number varying according to circumstances. For example, after the conquest of Urgench, each Mongol warrior – in an army group that might have consisted of two tumens (units of 10,000) – was required to execute 100 people [7].

Mongoloid invasions induced population extermination on a scale never seen before particularly in Central Asia and eastern Europe.
Mongol conquests anhilated 70,000,000+ 1206–1324 Eurasia
Conquests of Tamerlane anhilated 20,000,000+ 1370–1405 Eurasia
Turko-Mongoloid conquests anhilated 300,000,000+ 200-1920 Eurasia
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>>2487711

All of it, actually. What is "Thustra", for starters.

Dharma comes from Hinduism.
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>>2487749
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zarathustra

repeat after this: dharmic religion comes from Zroastr

The religious beliefs of the Scythians was a type of Pre-Zoroastrian religion
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>>2487784
It predates Zarathustra you loon
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>>2487706

He was talking about the Mlechchhas, who are very dark indeed.
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>>2487784

Firstly no, it doesn't. It comes from Hinduism. Secondly, literally no-one calls Zarathustra "thustra". Thirdly, stop trying to talk about things you are COMPLETELY ignorant of.
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>>2487866
I'm pretty thurstra right now myself. I better go get some water.
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>>2487706
Whatever color upper caste Indians have is good enough.
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>>2485793
Kshatriyas barley have Aryan ancestry if any. That mostly belongs to the Brahmins.
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>>2485793
UMM
*adjusts glasses*
PLEASE EXCUSE ME
*takes out 30 year fixed mortgage*
I THINK YOU MUST MEAN TO SAY
*applies for small business loan*
WE USED TO BE BUDDHISTS
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>>2488653
WE
*lights incense and puts on Sixpence None The Richer*
WERE
*drinks grape juice and secretly voted Trump but now regrets it*
SPIRITUAL
*Tears down Harry Potter poster from wall, puts up poster of Gwenyth Paltrow*
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buddha 100% white aryan confirmed
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>>2485800
>>2485849
No, he did not
t.pingpong zhang
>>2485793
light skinned indians are not white, despite what they may tell themselves
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>>2487743
>retarded copypasta
Okunev and Karasuk cultures were already a mix of Central Siberians(East Asians with high ANE affinity such as the Ket/Nganasan) and Indo Europeans(Andronovo.Afanasievo etc.)

Even the Eastern Scythians had East Asian admixture(resembling modern day Evenks) that predates the Turko-Mongols.
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>>2485793
>Europeans depict Jesus as a white man
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>>2488854
>Europeans portray Jesus as a light skinned Semitic male
Seems about right. Have you ever actually seen anyone from Syria or Lebanon? It isn't far fetched from Christ typical European portrayal.
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>>2485870
theravada as laid down in the pali canon during the fourth buddhist council in sri lanka is the true path you dum heathen :^)
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>>2488869
>that random derp picture which gives Jesus lazy eyes
Not an argument. Look at the Syrians. They seem rather light skinned in Egyptian times, right? Galileans wouldn't be much darker.
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>>2488869

You realise the skin color in that "reconstruction" is pure fiction, right? They made him brown because morons like you think "middle east = brown".
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>>2488869
Sweetie, you can't reconstruct pigmentation from a skull.
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>>2488869

if you post this meme image again you're going to die of cancer

>facial reconstructions based on

>>2488941

>you can't reconstruct pigmentation from a skull

they didn't even have a skull

besides, you can make an educated guess based on the morphology of the skull (forensic anthropologists do this all the time).
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>>2488945
>you can make an educated guess based on the morphology of the skull
Yeah a guess between black person and white person, not two Caucasoid skulls.
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>>2488945
>besides, you can make an educated guess based on the morphology of the skull (forensic anthropologists do this all the time).

And yet they chose to make him very dark, much darker than the natives of that area where then or are today.
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>>2488653
>>2488780
Kek.
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>>2488945
>didn't greentext sweetie
Why
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>>2488976

extraneous
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>>2488994
Remember to greentext sweetie the next time.
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>>2485946
>Chinese ruined Buddhism.

>Poos drove out Buddhism in the first place
K.
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>>2489000
>sweetie
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>>2489024
Thanks!
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>>2489033
>Thanks
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I don't understand.

Why do Chinese and Japanese abandon Confucianism and Shintoism respectively for Buddhism?

You can argue Confucianism is a philosophy but why would the Japanese abandon Shintoism for Buddhism.
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>>2489068
>Why do Chinese and Japanese abandon Confucianism and Shintoism respectively for Buddhism?
They didn't. East Asians are yuge on syncretism.

Just look at how Chinese Christians didn't abandon Confucianism either.
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>>2485955
Chinese painting and poetry >>>> shitty Indian """art"""
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>>2489068
They didn't, Buddhism is merged into local beliefs
>>2489021
>what is theravada in srilanka/nepal/south east asia
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