Golden Age of Piracy

Yarrrrrrr, We was buccaneers 'n sheeeit

probably because most of /his/ is just concerned with just flinging shit and has forgotten childhood joys and delights like pirates

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>>2485294
This

>Raiding the Dutch East Empire company
>Stealing from the Spanish
>Stops in Cuba
Sounds alright desu

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>mfw I'm playing AC:Black Flag

>captain only had command during battles
>shared plunder
>insurances to compensate monetarily for loss of limbs or eye

Blackbeard is remembered because he was such a gigantic asshole.

>>2485469
Will Ubi ever top it? It's their best job in uniting a good historical setting and fun game mechanics

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>>2485294
Wow this hit me hard... reminded me of all the books about pirates i got when i was a kid...

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>>2484608
Im down to talk about it. Almost finished watching Black Sails, and I am not disappointed.

>>2485294
Don't forget: Asking the same 20 questions and posting /pol/teir memes.

>>2485469
The only thing good about it was the fucking baller collection of live recorded, historically accurate shanties.

>>2485599
Actually, he's remembered for his party games.

>>2487769
could be wrong but wasn't a large part of Blackbeard's mythology a deliberate fabrication on his part to ensure people would rather surrender than fight back?

>>2487869
Yeah, it's highly debatable that he even killed anybody.

>>2487885
given his occupation it would be reasonable to assume he had a few death's on his name, at the very least he likely killed people during the event that led to his own death

what could be debatable is if he ever murdered someone

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>>2487869
Same can be said for many historic figures who based careers off their reputation.

>>2487885
>>2487898
Oh, we well know Teach killed both in combat, and in cold blood. Probably not in the numbers reported, but we have several eye witness accounts of him killing men in arguments or outright murder in the Carolinas.

>>2487869
I think on one instance he simply killed one of his own crew because he felt they weren't afraid of him enough.

Who was that pirate who was marooned on an island, and made it out to sea? I think he got a job on a merchant ship only to be found out by another worker on the same ship who had seen him before, he was then tried and executed.

If you don't make it ww2 or christianity related /his/ isn't going to talk about it

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>>2488134
Fuck that noise.

DISCUSSION START: What would be your choice of personal arms for shipboard combat between 1660-1760? Preferably one melee, 1 fire arm and one "other"?

Ah yes, the joys of spending weeks out at sea with a third rate ship trying to catch one merchant vessel but are too slow so you get no bounty and are forced to go back to port and beg for food or kill and eat weaker crew members and even if you do score a large haul half your crew is killed in the battle and the EIC decides they want their money back so they send ships tp capture you alive so they can publicly execute you.
Pirates were the most desperate of men, it wasn't some fun swashbuckling adventure.

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>>2488171
Yes, yes, we all know pirates were just sailors who made bad life choices. The point is, that the hope of a big pay off was worth the risk for many, as was the potential to make bank on pardoned privateering etc.

Its a romantic notion that attracts many today, but the same can be said for 99% of history.

>>2485469
is it worth playing?

>>2488171
Well no shit the press ganged guys who couldn't bear navy duty were desperate.

I choose 10,000 flintlocks

>>2488171
Privateers wouldn't be tied to EIC, especially considering in their heyday they mostly preyed on Spanish merchants in West Indies

Did they really bury treasure on mayan island and shieeet?

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>>2488217
You now have 100 crates of pic related, and no weapons. Congrats, you're our first prize.

>>2488205
Yes. Game mechanics are fun as fuck, as is the voice acting. Fantastic gameplay in general.

Voice acting is top tier, with live recorded sea shanties playing while you sail the Caribbean, stopping of at desert, tropical islands, and so on... You can do it for hours, it's so beautiful.

The story, when it isn't focused on bullshit templar stuff, is pretty fun; edward kenway is a surprisingly interesting character who grows throughout the story. There are some truly poignant moments in the story, which are accentuated through the skilled voice acting of the cast.

It's definitely worth a buy; it will bring back the nostalgic sense of wonder you may have had as a kid, when reading a picture book about pirates.

>>2488249
Avoid getting boarded and sell them to a colonial militia or something

Proof of the brutishness of anglos

>>2488205
It might actually be only AC worth playing

barbary corsair is underrated desu

there was this one dutch guy who become a slave after a turkish raid, converted to islam and led turks and north africans corsair to raid iceland(lol). which was so random they got a word for that specific event in iceland.

the same guy allegedly also brought the first muslim communities to america and likes to kill nigggers there

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>>2488255
You are very generous. The only good thing about it is the OST.

>>2488278
>Avoid getting boarded
You best hope so without weapons.

> sell them to a colonial militia or something
Negative. You'd have to sell them to a gunsmith or state institution. Militias need usable arms more than parts that are not guaranteed to fit.

>>2488170
A cutlass, a blunderbus and can I count an extra pistol as "other"?

>>2487769
>>2487957
>>2488170
>>2488191
>>2488249
>>2488314

Kill yourself.

>>2488298
There are several of those

The guy you mentioned

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Janszoon

Bonus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ward

>>2488345
why u mad? pirates killed you're parents

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>>2488334
>can I count an extra pistol as "other"?
Anything you want. Another pistol, grenados, a boat hook...

>>2488345
Nah. I'll pass.

>>2488366
Pirate clowns. We honk upon the high seas.

>>2488314
lol then sell them to a colonial admistration that can turn them into working guns, answered it yourself bruv
if they ain't got money get it in trade goods, then take it back to europe and sell it for a good profit

>>2488426
Would you knock on some random Mayor's door and try to sell him 10'000 possibly stolen gun parts?

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>>2488426
>Some schlub shows up to a government building randomly with 10,000 loose lock mechanisms with no business contacts, and expects to sell no-name weapons parts without documentation that they didn't order.

OK Anon.

>>2488426
>HI! BUY MY FLINTLOCKS! THEY ARE TOTALLY NOT STOLEN!

>>2488426
>>2488492
>>2488503
>>2488504
And thats the story of how Anon was hung for piracy before ever picking up a sword.

A pirate I was meant to be
Trim the sails and roam the sea!

Bartholomew Roberts had a fleet...I think.

>>2488546
We're whalers on the moon
We carry our harpoons

>>2488492
Yes
I fail to see what the problem is, they're in good working order, apart from lacking a barrel and stock.

>>2488596
Grats senpai, you just had all your munitions confiscated and you're hanging from a rope.

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>>2488596
>No barrel
>No stock
>No trigger mechanism
>No record of where they came from
>No record of who made them
>Just some random nobody with 10,000 gun parts expecting your to buy them no questions asked.

>>2488617
Its a short drop and a hard stop.

>>2488617
>you had all your munitions confiscated
Bit generous to call a bunch of actions munitions, innit? No worse than selling lower receivers to a pawn shop.

>>2488646
Well, I mean, given the lack of documentation, I suppose I would have to offer them quite a cheap rate, but hey one works with the capital they have.
In any case, I think the greater question would be why I have a bunch of flintlock actions and nothing else, which would be a swell story to recount

>>2488170
Saber,>>2488170
Saber, 2 pistols, grenades

>>2488171
No shit nigga, just like being an associate of the mafia seems glamorous but is equally as miserable. Kys

>>2484608
Posting thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggyC0FOzqHM

>>2488314
>the only good thing
Come on, son.

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>>2488170
Firepot grenades, warpaint and burning slowmatch in my hair and a fuckhuge sharktooth axe like pic related. Let them think im the actual devil.

>>2489031
All the Ass creed games are terrible and you know it.

I've always wondered how pirates returned to their home countries with their ill-gotten gains. Granted, law enforcement was nowhere sophisticated today and you could get away with a false identity much easier than now. But if you started spending gold, the authorities want to know how you obtained it, they'll tax you, and will wonder if you're a criminal.

Like say you're some lucky bastard that managed to acquire cash after carefully fencing your plunder to a legitimate merchant whose looking the other way. You have no criminal record and any witness was killed off. What do you do next. Remain in the Caribbean and drink your loot to an early death or poverty? Risk going back to Europe and have people ask what you've been doing overseas?

The only sensible option is to discreetly board a ship to Europe, hitch passage to the New World as a respectable immigrant who wants to strike his fortune in the colonies (with all your money carefully hidden). You discreetly purchase land and/or business interests to launder your loot and live the rest of your life as a law-abiding member of the community.

Impossible to pull off? Or was it more common than we thought?

>>2489069
You can actually BUY pardons or even letters of marque if you have the dosh.

Or you just bring a large enough gift to an enemy nation and step on your old flag.

It's too bad there's not enough good television on early colonisation of the new world, especially the Caribbean. Imagine stepping off that boat for the first time and finding the most alien, strange world.

>>2488298
Yeah the Barbary corsairs were the terror of the Mediterranean for centuries. The fledgling US republic has enough of their extortion and launched its first overseas war. Thanks to our resounding success in standing up to the Barbary states, the European powers soon followed.

The US has another war against privacy in Indonesia during Jackson's presidency. US traders based from Salem were the preeminent pepper merchants of the world. Local chieftains considered Salem to be its own sovereign nation and unfortunately some greedy villages decided to prey on US shipping. The Navy was pissed and wrecked their shit at Kuala Batu.

>>2489110
Clownbro mentioned Black sails, and desu, it starts slow, but by episode six, it ramps up and keep going through the end of season 3. Still waiting on season 5, but I got high hopes.

>>2489069
Henry Avery got screwed over by the people who offered to fence his plunder. crew members probably managed to get away undetected though. Not a lot of pirates really escaped justice all in all, except the ones who accepted pardons and could actually resist not returning to a life of piracy.

>>2489100
Yeah I know about those, but what if said pirate doesn't want anyone to know what they did and wants to genuinely go back to being an honest working man again? Like not wanting to shame his family like or not wanting to be ostracized by polite society.

Literally just retire in Scotland

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>>2489119
Yeah I heard about his particular case because the English government launched a manhunt for what Avery did to the Mughal ship that got plundered.

If I was one of those lucky bastards, I'd make damn sure I'm clean cut and properly fence my jewels. I'll even try to seek out someone I can bribe to mint my foreign coinage to English currency. And then it's off to the 13 Colonies to set up shop because no way in hell would I step foot in Britain or Ireland.

>>2489047
I can dig it.

>>2489126
It helps that most pirates were literal nobodies. You could say were sailing on a merchant vessel, made a good haul with bonuses, struck it rich in a foreign land etc. No one cared.
>>2489141
Ooh, is that a period account?

>>2489146
yeah, but so much property like jewels and gold are easy to render down to material components, or just claim it was booty recovered from fighting pirates etc.

Blackbeard drinks gunpowder with rum, how is this not poisonous?

>>2489158
Because its blackpowder, not modern gunpowder Sulfur, charcoal and saltpeter. You can buy several rum brands and chili mix with black powder in it.

I know a guy who uses it to to sear brisket, by mixing it with his dry rub.

Pirates had a strict bedtime, sounds shit.

>>2489177
Most ship crews did. At least two shifts of men to keep the ship running.

>>2489146
What happened to the other half of his crew he ditched in the Indian ocean is even weirder.

Apparently they settled in Madagascar and used their guns and cannons to subjugate the islands various warring tribes. According to Charles Johnson (See book posted above) they lived out the rest of there days as chieftains siring multiple children with the native women.

>>2489157
That's true. If you had a good enough story to bullshit about being a lawful sailor on an Asian-bound merchantman, it's likely nobody would assume too much. But going to the American colonies and living far from ports would be the safest bet. You live out your days as a farmer, shopkeeper, cooper, blacksmith, miller, or whatever thanks to your loot as capital.

The jewels could probably be handwaved as a gift for a future wife or a family heirloom or something. And it acts as security in case of an emergency. It's lightweight and can be converted to cash due to its high value.

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Worst pirate?

>>2488674
try selling 10,000 lower recivers to a pawnshop stateside and watch as the ATF rams a microscope up your ass and interrogate you for hours.

>>2489188
It's a better prospect than a hangman's noose in Europe.

I'm surprised they didn't just murder all the witnesses in the Mughal ship they plundered. Dead men tell no tales. And burn the ship because it's highly unlikely anyone would find out about it.

I would'be taken my share of the loot and live in Siam or some other Asian entrepôt where a European sailor could settle down and marry some local qt.

>>2489157
It was written in 1724 and supposedly Johnson used pirate hunting captains and former crew members (who could have very well just been homeless people looking to make a quick buck) as his sources. It's believed he may have over exaggerated the details a bit in order to gain popularity with English readers who often enjoyed exotic tales from the new world.

>>2489225
Awesome, gonna have to look that up at work.

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>>2489222
I'd use my plunder to buy land in Africa or India, set up a plantation, and fill it full of slaves. I can see it now sitting on my ivory balcony sipping Indian Gin, watching the sun go down over my vast open fields, and reflecting on the time my captain caused a major diplomatic incident by capturing a Mughal treasure ship and raping the emperor's daughter.

>>2489216
>that Jew nose

Check out Blood & Gold: Caribbean for a Pirate themed Mount & Blade game.

>>2489218
Well, if they've magically appeared in my inventory whilst browsing a colonial gunsmithing board, there's not exactly any dirt they can find on me.

>>2489339
nah it kinda sucks and devs have abandoned it. it would have been great as a mod or DLC but on it's own it's pretty shitty

>>2489256
its a pretty fun read even if his old timey prose is a bit hard to swallow. probably the work most responsible for our current idea of pirates, along with treasure island. some people think daniel defoe wrote it under a pen name

>>2489286
>you chose the basic bitch
y didn't you romance a spanish hottie, papi?

>>2489499
Im totally ok with that. Reading 18thC prose is part of my dayjob.

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>>2489175
Is the brisket any good?

Bump, me harteys!

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>>2488170

Cutlass, 22-26 inch blade.
Double-barrel flintlock.
Large knife, 6-8 inches.

Not all fighting takes place above-deck, and we might want what's in the hold. Silks and wines go for better prices than locks, anyway.

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>>2489866
Its fucking magnificent. Its a final rub before serving, after its been slow cookinging. It sears the outside, and leaves the inside juicy.

My bro is fatter than me, and does competitive BBQ contests. He knows his brisket. A true buccaneer (Which, thread related, is from the French "boucanier", who were independent hunters/meat smokers on the island chains who would sell to ships and sometimes act as wreckers and pirates against the Spanish. The origin of barbecue boucan)

Pic is of boucaniers of the islands that would become Hispaniola, depicted in Nicolas De Fer's 1698 map L'Amérique. Note the game-butchering knives and hunting dogs on the man in the foreground, and the men prepping feral pig for the smokehouse in the background.

>>2488191
I would also argue that with the Treaty of Utrecht the British severely downsized their Royal Navy, something like ~60,000 sailors to ~15,000. This forced a lot of young men to turn to piracy out of desperation. Got this from "Under the Black Flag" by David Cordingly, great read btw.

I think it is funny that the Brits unintentionally made piracy worse for themselves.

>>2492095
>Treaty of Utrech
I am honestly not too intimate with the Treaty past the basics, myself, but I do know that the Admiralty used the surge of piracy cause by it to push for massive budget increase and modernization that would of course, bring the Brits to be even more of a fearsome sea power.

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>>2484608

Because the fake stories are better than reality. Piracy wasn't full of swashbuckling tales of adventure. It was mutineers, criminals, random criminals, etc., going around looting and killing what they could. And it wasn't all THAT common since all the major empires would track them down to kill them, pushing pirates to the farthest fringes rather than being all out in the open like the fictional tales.

>>2492166
As we've gone into great detail about already, we came to the conclusion that history in general is shitty, and we celebrate the romantic notions of high seas adventure, rather than violent, syphilitic sea-rapists.

>>2492132
Yeah that is true and I would add that this support was largely generated in the colonies. When the treaty was signed, many governors immediately started writing to HM for naval support.

You guys should read up of the Orang Laut and the Bugis; they were the pirates of Indonesia and Malaysia. Piracy in the Indian Ocean and South China Sea is fascinating as fuck.

>>2492216
Actually, they were democratic microgovernance more than anything, with individual ship crews essentially being states unto themselves. Captains and other "officer" positions tended to be elected by merit and ability to successfully provide and command, but could be overturned at any time other than active combat by the crew.

A ship cannot function without some form of command.

>>2485469
same. was watching Black Sails and it got me in the mood to install it again.

Honestly it's repetitive as fuck, the combat is adorably easy and simplistic, kill 50 guys in a row one by one while they circle you and watch you kill them one at a time. This of course makes the stealth pointless because you can walk right into any stronghold in the game and kill everyone there in 2 minutes flat, which is fine because the stealth system is extremely simplistic and stupid, guards are retarded and take a full 3 seconds of visual to spot you, and will literally give up after they see you run into a hiding place. You're given 15 sleeping darts and 15 berserk darts which is more than you need for any mission. You can just stand on a building, shoot everyone with your pistols, and get all your ammo back from the dead bodies with no trouble.

All of these flaws, and the game is still worth it just to sail around the ocean listening to shanties. It's literally the only AC game worth playing because of the ship, shame it doesn't have manual rail boats because this makes collecting things on the world map horribly annoying, as you have to swim to every individual shore and none of them have row boats to get back.

Also Kenway's fleet makes it way too easy to make money. I had half a million before I was 20% through the story, just doing trade and then logging back in every time to another 50k

All of this on top of the fact that the AC controls have always been shit, not having a dedicated jump button was mistake, can't tell you how many times I tried to run through a doorway only to have Edward run up the side of the wall and hang off the arch of the doorway, or how about all those times you tried to do a simple jump but because it wasn't a preprogrammed free running path, it didn't work out and your character jumped 200 feet to his death.

all in all though, sailing a pirate ship is fun.

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>>2492404
>no sodomy
Faggot.

>>2492411
>It's not like anarchists aren't allowed to have leaders or anything

I know you're an edgy highschooler, but democratic voting systems and meritocratic elections are specifically against the ideology of anarchy.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

>>2492524
Exactly. The ideology of anarchy that people expound upon is just as much a misnomer as a "leader" in anarchy.

Its full on "scratching A symbols into your school desk" level of understanding, when people try to put order into the concept of anarchy.

>>2488170
>wrap hands in cloth like a boxer then in twine for protection so I can open nasty cuts brawling in close melee if I can't get a good swing.
>Sabre
>daggers hidden in clothes for underhanded attacks

Or preferably
>rifled musket aim for officers.

>>2492546
>wrap hands in cloth like a boxer then in twine for protection so I can open nasty cuts brawling in close melee if I can't get a good swing.

...Why not just wear gloves?

>>2492547
No, its just adorable to see the half formed understandings of human larva.

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>>2492578
Shhhh. Its ok. No need to be upset. Pic related

What did Stirner think about pirates?

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>>2492601
You couldn't even post a crappy screencap with a somewhat topical picture? Weak.

>>2488255
i dont even like pirate stuff, but key ill might try it

>>2488294
But the best pirate in the world was a Chinese woman

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>>2488170
Saber, pistol and a giant ass barrel of powder.

>>2492194

Then why is it on /his/ if it isn't even about history? It isn't even about humanities. This is just jerking off over fiction and probably belongs on another board entirely.

>>2492953
The romanticized cultural image of piracy is also /his/ you dolt, and yes, we are talking some points of the actual history too.

This thread is a billion times better than the thinly veiled /pol/ threads, racist shitposting, and "is he our guy" threads.

KYS faggot.

>>2493031

Yeah, it's better but to basically go "hurr fuck history i wanna pretend fake pirates were real cuz muh black sails" isn't much better.

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>>2492953
>>2493037
Everything I was going to say >>2493031 summed up.

No one is saying "fuck history", just fuck that guy who wanted to be a debbie downer. The popular image of piracy shaped a huge chunk of history in a way that is still felt today, and we have been discussing both that, as well as real historical fact.

Eat some BBQ. Drink some rum. Maybe get a little wenching in. Get in the spirit anon!

>>2492578
Do you even know who gropey is?

>>2489188
>Apparently they settled in Madagascar and used their guns and cannons to subjugate the islands various warring tribes. According to Charles Johnson (See book posted above) they lived out the rest of there days as chieftains siring multiple children with the native women
Is that an official source?

>tfw you will never be a privateer

Pirates are overrated.

I find it cool how most pirate ships were multi-ethnic. You'd have people from all over the world united in just looting and pillaging other people.

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>>2493090
Its a /period/ source. That is not to say we can confirm or deny the veracity of it, but it is documentation. Its certainly possible though.

>>2493097
Privateers are just jumped up, patriotic pirates, letter or no.

>>2493102
Because they are all scum in the end.

>>2493128
>Its certainly possible though.
I find it hard to believe. Guns back were very primitive. The time it would have taken to shoot and reload would have led you to get overwhelmed. Especially for a small crew vs a thousand or so people.

>>2493174
Ok, couple of problems with your theory.

>Guns back were very primitive.med

No, they were not as primitive as you'd think. Cannoneering and the technology had been around for over 400 years by then, and was well understood and systemic.

>The time it would have taken to shoot and reload would have led you to get overwhelmed.
Firstly, a well trained, well practiced gun crew can load and fire every 50 seconds. Hell, I am a pretend 18thC soldier and we manage 64 seconds sustained on our 6 pounders. They also had multiple cannon to barrage.

As for being overwhelmed, you're also overestimating the moral and discipline of the subjugated people against a cannon, as well as the range and accuracy of the muskets supporting the cannon (which are firing around 3 shots a minute). I dare you to find soldiers who lack similar arms, that could successfully engage that.

>Especially for a small crew vs a thousand or so people.
A small crew of heavily armed, trained men, with overwhelming range and firepower against an unsuspecting, primitive civilian target.

>>2493228
>Firstly, a well trained, well practiced gun crew can load and fire every 50 seconds. Hell, I am a pretend 18thC soldier and we manage 64 seconds sustained on our 6 pounders. They also had multiple cannon to barrage.
The cannons are making me think otherwise, but most of the pirates weren't well trained. Not to mention disease ridden and half starved to death.

>A small crew of heavily armed, trained men, with overwhelming range and firepower against an unsuspecting, primitive civilian target.
Maybe they did conquer them. But humans are best at adapting than any other species. There should have been (looking at history) an uprising that killed most of them.

>>2493406
> but most of the pirates weren't well trained. Not to mention disease ridden and half starved to death.
>most pirates were not already professional sailors who were drilled in cannons as part of their job.

Nigga, you ignant.

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>>2485294
>mfw I still have pic related somewhere

To be honest, none of that shit was very interesting to me, even as a kid. I don't know what kids saw in pirates or similar adventurer shit.

>>2489175
Some people mix gunpowder with dog food and feed it to Rover. My Grand dad did it, he told me it makes his dogs "mean."

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Blackbeard had a cool ship

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>>2493406
>but most of the pirates weren't well trained.
Quite to the contrary. As >>2493476 points out, they would have been trained long before becoming pirates. A crew won't just take anyone, as every man needs to pull his weight.

>Not to mention disease ridden and half starved to death.
You just described the age of sail in general,

>>2493673
Thats bullshit superstition, but it wouldn't hurt the dog.

>>2493682
I just wish the funding to dredge the rest of the wreck didn't come and go like the tide.

>>2493079
Yes, I do know who Gropey is.

See below for his OKCupid profile:
https://www.okcupid.com/profile/GropeyDaClown

>>2494708
>https://www.okcupid.com/profile/GropeyDaClown

Too old, wrong side of the country, and I got a SO already.

Also, "Da Clown" is too informal for my taste,

>>2488043

This is unlikely, Pirate captains were usually elected by the crew and could be deposed at any moment outside of combat situations. Killing a crew member for no reason doesn't make sense under these conditions.

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>>2488170
>1 fire arm

Fuck that, I'll just carry as many pistols as possible. New york reload all the way.

>>2485469
The ship engine was better in AC3 tho. AC4 felt too arcady, with the 5 second cannon reload, super accurate swivel guns, seeing the enemy ships health, and the crew acting like robots.

The music was better in AC3 too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJRJQMZYiW0

>>2488170
>melee
Hatchet. Good all-round and cheap
>firearm
Carbine. Long enough for being able to take potshots at the enemy as they're reeling your ship in, Short enough for being useful when one of them is coming straight for you.
>"other"
idk, a grenade or two maybe?

>>2488415
did they capsize?

>>2492241
Most people aren't aware of the rich history of piracy in the Indian Ocean and South China Sea. Some of these groups were treated as regional powerbrokers.

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>>2485603
>what is UNITY

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>>2493586
>not having to go to bed early
>not having to eat your vegetables
>can play outside at anytime he wants
>has a fucking vessel armed with cannons

>not interesting for kids

if nothing of this amuses you, it's because you're a huehuer and your life revolves around everyday fun
(also, tfw when still taking mauricio de sousa comics to the wc when i'm about to take a dump - pretty popular shit here in portugal)

>>2496588
>my favorite historical setting
>blocked behind 1000 npcs that make the game run like absolute shit

fucking ubishit and their pathetic unoptimized trash

>>2493174
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Rorke%27s_Drift

They're still niggers and can be repelled with a handful of good men.

>>2489118

>Still waiting on season 5

Season 4 is currently airing and it's the last one.

>>2497792
Thats what I meant. Sorry.

>>2497708
But they used single-shot rifles, basically with modern bullets, which were reloaded much faster than flintlock rifles.

>>2499747
Jesus christ for a history board you guys are idiots.

Reread >>2493228. Now take into account a musket (not rifles) can be easily fired three times a minute with basic practice (I say this as someone who shoots an 18thC musket daily, and im still not as good as someone from history). Multiple muskets, multiple cannon, and firing against a primitive unarmed civilian target.

>>2492166
>>2492194

Lack of documentation inevitably leads to the creation of myths and legends, that's partly why vikings or pirates are so popular in fiction.

Saying pirates were just looters and killers is as false as saying they were all romantic adventurers.

Some research even tends to depict the emergence of civilized anarchist societies among pirates, off course rapidly crushed by empires. And who knows, maybe a nation could have emerged from piracy.

Truth is, there's work to do in this field in history.

OH I THOUGHT I HEARD THE OLD MAN SAY
LEAVE HER JOHNNY, LEAVE HER
TOMORROW YE WILL GET YOUR PAY
BUT FOR NOW, IT'S TIME TO LEAVE HER

>>2487769
>Historical shanties
Nah most of them were not even from the time period depicted in AC4

>>2499954
Historic as in they can be documented to the 18thC.

Asking for accurate documentation in asscreed is a practic of futility. I count them not using 19th and 20thC folk songs as a win.

>>2500073
Although I think there are a few 19thC ones in there.
Donkey riding is 19thC IIRC, a "donkey" referring to some kind of steam engine?

>>2488171
embarrasing, did you really think you were dropping some ebin truth bomb

>>2500846
Which song? A donkey can also refer to the slave on a cane plantation or dock whos job is to haul carts, or to a small deck gun carriage.

Or, ya'know, a donkey.

>>2501134
Oh it was a shanty from AC Rogue, my bad!

But it does date from 1854, never played the game though so no idea when it's set.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgfLP3gMh0Y

>>2501149
It's set around the 1750's and the start of the Seven years war.

>>2501149
First WRITTEN in 1857, but has a much older oral tradition. The "Donkey" in this case being the heavy guide bateaux to direct and pull floating timbers (orignally man powered, later refering to the small steam boats).

Source: "Folklore and the Sea"- Horace Beck, Castle Books 1983.

>>2501774
Looks like a cool book. Just ordered off amazon, thanks clown.

>>2484608
Was about to make a pirate thread, but might as well put it in here.

Who is /v/ favorite pyrate? Mine was Stede Bonnet AKA The Gentleman Pirate. For reasons soley that he wasn't a seanigger.

>>2501774
Ah sweet, thanks for correcting me! And for mentioning that book, gonna pick it up!

>terrorists of the day

Man, the Eternal Recurrence is fucking real.

>>2502109
You can't be a terrorist if you're white.

>>2502111

>implying race is real

It's pretty fucking stupid to classify people based on the amount of melanin in their skin.

>>2502122
You're right. Instead we classify them based on their skull shape and brain capacity.

>>2502154

Phrenology is pseudoscience.

>>2496631
>your life revolves around everyday fun
lol

Also
>not wanting to be a scientist, doctor or astronaut when you were young
worthless pleb

(now I don't blame you for shitting on monica at this point, it really has gone to shit these days. (besides what should I expect from european 'higiene'))

Rifraf of colonial society and deserters from western navies. Raiding commerce shipping to get enough to survive till the next ship they can rob.

>>2492540
Do you imagine anarchists on a ship just would have people running around doing what they felt like and scratching A symbols in the wall? Anarchists were running Catalonia for a while, largely by self governance, direct democracy in the workplace, this is like the main tenant of both socialism and especially anarchism. In that sense certain pirate ships were "the booty" was shared equally, the leaders elected etc would be quite perfect examples of proto anarchism

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>Considering a life of piracy
>Not joining the Kings Navy

I look forward to seeing everyone one of you swing from the yardarm

>>2502391
>Buh buh buh! Anarchy works! Sure, they had to establish a governmental system, but just because it was democratic socialism doesn't mean its still not anarchy!

Goddamn you're retarded.

/pol/ go home.

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>>2501858
>>2502058
Go forth, /his/tory nerds!

>>2501927
Stede Bonnet is such an interesting figure, and I had the great opportunity to be his first mate Ignatius Pell, for a pirate program we did at the museum I work at. One of our best actor-interpreters did Bonnet, and it was awesome.

I HATE what Asscreed did to him. Fucking trash.

>>2502109
>>2502111
>>2502122
>>2502154
>>2502172
Fuck off back the /pol/

>>2502382
Goddamn provincials, getting uppity again.

>>2502391
Its no longer anarchy when the establish a mutual governing system. I will assume that you're what, 19? 20? Go wank to your pseudo intellectualism elsewhere. We're talking pirates.

>>2502397
That is one fine movie. Right up their with the Horatio Hornblower series.

what people think of as piracy, is really privateers. which were mercenary warships.

>>2502628

Skull shape.

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>>2502397
>Being a privateer for England
>Attacks a French ship for the glory of his majesty the king.
>Get hanged as a pirate by the British anyway
ISHYGDDT

>>2502647
Black flag is a punk band

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>>2502607
For sea use, they are certainly wrapping cartridges, and using ball rather than shot

>>2502647
Merriam-Webster

>Anarchy
>1
>a : absence of government
>b : a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority the city's descent into anarchy
>c : a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government

You then go one to describe a defined, agreed government. Stay in school, anon.

>What is the black flag?
In nautical parlance, a symbol of intent to aggress, and thus allow the opportunity to yield and parley.

>>2502702
A cornerstone of punk, at that.

>>2502786
>https://en.wikipedia.org/
Into the drops it goes.

Keep trying anon.

>>2502824
Yes, Merriam-Webster. Would you question the veracity of it definition?

Merriam-Webster is accepted in all ranks of academia. Wikipedia isn't even a credible source for grade schoolers.

>>2502786
>>2502824
Fuck off edgelord.

>>2502824
Quit being retarded, anon.

>>2501927
Does Jack Sparrow count?

>>2502515
I thought I was the only one who knew of Hornblower...so underrated.

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>>2485469
>Pirates keep hunting merchant fleets in Dutch trading waters in Naval Action

OCEANIGERS GET OUT OF REPUBLICAN WATERS REEEEEEEEEE

>>2502908
Don't you have homework to finish kiddo?

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>>2502899
Such a fucking good series. I miss the age of the period drama being not only good, but accurate. Did great justice to the books.

>>2502346
>he didn't have the franjinha science book

>>2502671
>pseudoscience is just a buzzword
>reddit spacing
>phrenology being anything close to a science

back to /r/The_Donald with you, they miss your """input"""

Because normie media made it cringeworthy

bump for more pirates and less /pol/

>>2485294
Fuck....

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>>2488349
>>2488298
I think he's talking about another Dutch guy that converted to Islam. 'Jan Janszoon' or Murat Reis was appointed by the Moroccans.

Suleiman Reis however was appointed by the very Ottoman Sultan himself. Suleiman worked together with big names like Oruç and Hayreddin Barbarossa.
Pic is Hayreddin Barbarossa

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How do you think the Republic would have turned out if it managed to survive?

>>2502515
>Tfw I have that same tattoo
Do you think I'm a fag now /his/? I do.

>>2505268
Pics or gtfo

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>>2505274
I don't know how the fuck I am meant to display them to the camera while also operating the camera so I only have one from when they were fresh.

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>>2505289
He actually did it

The absolute madman

>>2505294
Idgaf, I work in a trade where tattoos aren't a barrier and earn good money. I'm interested in Naval history and planning to get a lot more 18thC tattoos (Hand poked as they would have been too)

Does anyone know any good documentaries for this period?

I listened to the H101 podcast on it but its really tame and the guy is a bit wet.

Wish there was a hardcore history- style podcast on the subject

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>>2505289
>Hold fast or expire

>>2505289
You look like a hipster. Have you even sailed on a proper, rigged ship?

>>2505310
All my tats are documentable too. Im trying to figure a way to talk my museum into paying my artist to do one on site.


>>2506420
"Ben Franklin's Pirate Fleet" from Nat Geo was pretty good.

>>2507466
>"Ben Franklin's Pirate Fleet" from Nat Geo was pretty good.

That was on netflix a while back, but the sound was fucked and I couldn't watch it.

>>2488170
A cutlass with a full handgun, but those didn't come into use until the 1850s or 60s. Failing that, a backsword I guess?

(Flavor vid: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tsvPZkysXao)

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>>2508833
>A cutlass with a full handgun, but those didn't come into use until the 1850s or 60s

They have been slapping pistols on every kind of weapon since the 1500's, anon.