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Kurdistan, fact or fiction?

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Alot of people seem to believe that Kurds just popped out of nowhere as "nomads" as they say.
But if that is the case then how come they number close to over 50 million in these supposed regions that they have "no claim" in while historical records of them date back to almost 1500 BC under different names? All while being the unchallenged rulers of said regions throughout the majority of history.

Sure, the history books will tell how Arabs, Persians and Turks ruled but what is to say that Kurdistan wasn't vassal to those different Empires or even an autonomous Kurdish state?
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Kurds are Medes.

The Persians were a vassal state of the Median empire, until the Persians overthrew their lords.
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>>2483656
Exactly, and now they want to free themselves from those shackles of oppression and (f)ersianization and only want Iranian Kurdistan, rather than the entire Kurdian plateau, which is their birthright but Kurds are a humble people and feel bad for the Arab (F)ersians.
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No offense but what's with all these kurt threads lately
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Kurds and Persian should both be vassals to Pashtuns.
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>>2483656
I have been playing "Rise of Persia" a mod for Rome: Total War and it's pretty cool to experience the biblical era of the near east.

>Egypt
>Babylon
>Assyria
>Medes
>early Greeks
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You've been making these threads all day. Are you Kurdish?
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>>2483715
t.Djingiz Mohammed Khan
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>>2483739
Not realizing Pashtuns are in key positions in the Pakistan Government.
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Why is there a Kurd thread every day? Are Kurd shills a thing now?
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>>2483739
Whore is showing her hands. Why wasn't she stoned
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>>2483755
Yes. Kurds are literal we wuzzers attempting to steal Iranian and Turk history.
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>>2483746
Not realizing that's just a step up of having key positions in some African shithole.

Poonjabis and Pisshtuns stay out of Kurdistan and keep sucking that Saudi cock
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>>2483773
>Being this triggered
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>>2483668
>>2483656
>Kurds are Medes

There is no good evidence for this.

>"Though some Kurdish intellectuals claim that their people are descended from the Medes, there is no evidence to permit such a connection across the considerable gap in time between the political dominance of the Medes and the first attestation of the Kurds" - van Bruinessen

Contemporary linguists shat on this idea as well. Stop repeating bullshit you read on the internet because it sounds cool.

>>2483724
Albeit it would be fun to play an accurate mod, there really isn't enough historical evidence to portray a really accurate image of end of Assyrians the way the Romans can be portrayed.
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>>2483760
>Iranian and Turk history
t.Arslanreza Osmanzadehoglu

You are the pathetic losers trying to take off Kurdish achivements and civilizations.
>Ottomans ruled the ME for over 600 years and contributed nothing to science or culture while controlling one of the richest regions for both
>Perscucks LARP like every fucking civilization that spoke an Iranian language on the Kurdian plateau was (F)ersian, eventhough Darius dynsty and the Sassanids are the only ones confirmed and they are also the ones that fell like cucks to the Arabs and Greeks
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>>2483760
More like Armenian and Assyrian history. Earlier today op claimed that tigranes the great (Armenian king that fought the Romans) was kurdish. Therm he claimed the Assyrians were Kurdish
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Kurd Posting is the new /pol/ posting
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>>2483800
>Assyrians
>Kurdish
go bxo, faggot

The proud Kurdish peopl are not some Christian LARPing Arabs in denial that cry "muh genocide" every time Kurds take back what is rightfully theirs.
And modern Armenians are bastards of Arabs and (F)ersians, which makes them double Arab.
They are not like ancient Kurdish Armenians, except in language and has abandoned the ways of Anahita.

The holy Kurdish mountain of Mt.Ararat shall belong to the Kurds once more just like Van is now.
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>>2483819
Kurds < Punjabi.

Kurds can't produce no dope rappers. Case in Point.
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>>2483644
>popped out of nowhere as nomads

That's literally how most nomads come to be prominent. There are a bunch of people living outsides of cities, going to deserts, mountains. People don't pay that much attention to them compared to how they pay attention to nearby civilizations. Then when some civilizations weaken or when their enemies are destroyed, they flourish by migrating.

The problem is that people are looking to early. There weren't Kurds back then. Kurds are the result of mixing of many Iranian nomadic tribes. Add in being mixed with a little of neighboring peoples, possibly even turkic mix. Some believe Corduene to be the ancestral for Kurd.

Kurdish history (as in known dynasties of Kurds) started during Middle ages, islamic caliphate era, as kurdish principalities: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Kurds#Early_Kurdish_principalities
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>>2483819
Only group larping is kurds
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>>2483951
t.shlamu al-ashuri

Why don't you go cry to the West for a 99th time and see if anyone gives a fuck just cause "we r christin liek u".
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>>2483972
You do realize that they still speak Aramean. And yes i as a westerner do support them
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>>2483972
Punjabi > Kurds
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>>2483992
>neo-""""aramaic""""
There are more arab loan words than in Levante Arabic.
And if you support them so much then go fight for them.
Oh wait, Westernerns only fight for Kurds cause they see through their bullshit and understand the value and history of ancient Kurdistan.
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>>2484195
>Assyrians and Armenians so delusional they think Arabs, Turks and (F)ersians are ever gonna unite let alone fight their shitty fight for them
Keep dreaming Ashur Cucksarian.

Because that is all you shitty Christians can do, dream.
Cause last time you tried something against the superior Kurd you got massacred and Kurds got to reclaim all of Eastern Anatolia and N.Syria/Iraq for themselves. And now like the cucks you are you want the other filth to fight your fight for you cause you lack both the balls or the brains to do it yourselves.

Go hold another "muh genocide" rally and cry like the babies you are.
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>>2484285
When is turkey going to genocide you guys
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>>2484359
never, cause the filthy roaches will seize to exist soon enough and all of Hîtîtstan shall be Kurdish once more
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>>2484377
Genocide is in their blood. They'll do It eventually
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>>2483644
That map gets bigger and bigger every time I see it kek
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>>2484409
yeah, and Kurds have never removed filth before from their ancestral lands in Van or N.Iraq/Syria :^)
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>>2484430
This really isn't something to be proud of. Being the jackals circling a lion is unhanded
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>>2484452
*underhanded
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>Kurd Posting
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>>2484452
Better than being the cucked little chickens that cry to the Lions whenever the jackal comes to eat them instead of standing up to themselves.
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>>2484485
I like how the flag is masted by a shitty piece of wood.
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>>2484485
Sounds like kurds.

>please save us usa you are are only hope
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>>2484495
just like they used a shitty piece of wood to mast armenicucks :^)
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>>2484517
I'm not Armenian though.
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>>2484522
and neither are the Arab-(F)ersian LARPers in Yerevan, living on Kurdish lands
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>>2484532
Top kek and what's up with the (f)ersians thing
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>>2484532
Why are you so angry? Maybe, this is divine punishment for what you guys did in
>>2484430
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>>2483644
these kurdistan maps get bigger every time i see them i swear to god
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>>2484572
>"divine punishment"
>Kurds are currently on their way to get their own state with Western backing while cuckmenians and assyrians are slowly getting wiped out by Turks and Arabs and no one gives two shits about their "struggles"
great analysis there, Dr. Ashurcuckibal, I am sure Christ will return in a week and declare the Eastern Church as the right one while farting out thunder to slay your enemies so you can have your imaginative """Greater Armenia""" and """Assyira"""
>>2484563
Like the cucks they adapted the Arabic alphabet/writing-system and don't have "P" in it. Which is why they don't say Parsi (which is the correct pronouncification) but "Farsi".
Hence, they should be called (F)ersians since otherwise they get angry and start swearing in Arabic loanwords like the Arab mongrels they are.
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>>2484592
>Kurds are not influenced by the Arabs

see
>>2483787
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>>2483644
The map is wrong. Use the one with their territorial gains from the Finno-Kurdish hyperwar.
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>>2484601
That's cause Kurds used to rule over Arabs and would adopt their customs similar to how the Achaemenid Kurds (under Cyrus and Cambysses and not the traitors to follow under the (F)ersian Darius) would take on cultural customs from their subjects. And some of Muhammads most influental companions that helped shape Islam were Kurds.

But unlike the cucked (F)ersians, Kurds are not bound by Arabic culture and law to feel the need to worship a guy just cause he claims descent of an Arab.
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>>2484617
Why are you butt hurt over something that happend more than 1000 years ago?
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>>2484647
Butthurt over what, Alireza Khameneizadeh?

I just pointed out where the Arab influences on Kurdish culture came from and you somehow intrepent it as aggression.
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>>2484663
Idk why you keep accusing me of being assyrian, persian, or whatever. Im American.
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>>2484667
And the US continued support to help the ancient Kurds to decimate the filthy Arabs, Turks and Assyrians is appreciated.

Soon we shall together invade the shithole of Iran and reclaim Aryan lands from the filthy Arab (F)ersians.
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>>2484592
That's why we have Ù¾
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>>2485058
and yet you say Fars, Mr.farsibaladizadeh
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>>2483644
>>2484586
I was going to write that, but I see someone did that before me.
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>>2483800
I saw once them claiming to be Hitties too.
Apparently Kurds are everything, except what they actually are: Iranian nomads without ancestral lands of their own.
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>>2485542
>denying credible archeological/historical evidence cause you are a butthurt turkroach
>>2485536
you sizefags need to realize it gets bigger cause more evidence is unearthed everyday showing that ancient Kurds used to inhabit and will inhabit those lands once again

all the foreign Arab, (F)ersian and Turk invaders can fuck off together with the LARPing """Armenians"""" and """"Assyrians"""", Kurdistan is gonna happen and eventually with those borders, if not larger, get over it
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>>2485598
You can't be both Medes and Hitties. Or Medes and Assyrians.
What you are, are pathetic nomadic iranians from eastern Iran.

Also, posting images without anything to support a connection to Kurds is not evidence.
This is a sage advice.
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>>2485631
And (F)ersians can be Darius Achaemenids, Sassanids, Khwarezmid and Qajars, eventhough 2 of them were of Turkic origin?

Kurdish Indo-European/Iranian tribes split and the earliest of them were the Hitties followed by the Kurdish Medes in the region, it's not rocket science, Muhammad ibn al-Gorgonzolazadeh.
>Assyrians
No one wants to be filthy Assyrians. Only Christian Arab LARPers are good enough to be their "descendants".
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>>2485725
So, where are facts to support your claims? Oh, right, nowhere, just pure wewuzism.
>Kurdish Indo-European/Iranian tribes
top kek
saged.
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>>2485735
>So, where are facts to support your claims?
In the fucking land itself and the fact that Kurds are willing to give everything to revive Media and Hîtîtstan from the corrupt and twisted Turks, Arabs and (F)ersians. But keep saging the thread and spew out your bullshit opinions just like the """Assyrians""" do, while Kurds are actually fighting and killing in the name of a United Kurdistan all while you or any other filthy roach or Arab (Fersian) cant do shit about it, except hide when the mighty Median Peshmerga warriors or Hittitte Rojava soldiers comes for them , Arlsan al-Bozgorzadeh.
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The Kurds defend their own land. If that doesn't mean they have a state of their own I don't know what state is legitimate at all.
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>>2485725
They should at least pick a group of people that spoke a indo european language like they do instead of people like Assyrians that speak a Semitic language
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>>2485774
Being we wuzers is not proving it true.

If you say that there are facts, bring actual, historical, facts, instead of screaming we wuz in every post.

Go on, archaeological, genetic, and linguistic evidence. Saying "WE WUZ" is not making it true, just like Afro-Americans saying "WE WUZ KANGZ OF EGYPT" is not making Egyptians black.
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>>2484485
>tfw Turds cry to Baghdad to take over and help them against their tribal Rivals everytime PUK and Barzani have a pissing contest
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>>2486181
how's it hanging? :^)
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>>2484586
This time they included Aleppo lmao
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We wuz medes and shit. And no im American.
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>>2483644
This is way too fucking big.
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>>2484592
But we have still have the "p" sound
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>>2487059
Everything in red is Kurdistan.
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>>2484617
WE
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>>2487655
>>2484617
WUZ
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>>2483644
The Kurds favorite pastime is to kill other kurds over tribal reasons. To make a single kurdistan would lead to civil war, to make several states would lead to civil wars and war between the kurdish states.
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i don't know if i hate krud posting more or roach posting
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>>2483833
Eh we have alot of good kurdish rappers here in germany.
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>>2487899
>Germany has kurds rapping in it
A reminder that the wrong side won WW2.
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>>2487908
hater.
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>>2484617

saladin isnt a kurd though. He descends from a tribe in arabia that became iranized when they settled in the north-eastern levant.
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kurds are now 25-30% of the population of Turkey. 100 years ago they were less than 5%. And 1000 years ago less than 1%.

Kurds are similar to gypsies, they were entirely nomadic until ataturk settled them entirely in eastern anatollia. Like africans and gypsies they exploded in population growth because of advancement in medicines and abundance of food.
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>>2489471
>until ataturk settled them entirely in eastern anatollia
Kurds have always had a strong presence in E.Anatolia taxing and holding authority on the Christian minorities like the Armenians and ASSyrians, as they should.
Ottomans had lose control over E.Anatolia since it was like the Wild west and Kurds were free to rule over their ancestral lands while making sure their unthankful subjects were treated good.

But when they stopped paying the humble Kurds, they were taught a lesson in the Hamidian massacre carried out by proud and stoic Kurdish brigades against filthy Armenian christians or the ASSyrian genocide to remind them of their place.
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>>2489551

I don't care if you killed a bunch of shitskins. Kurds were always a small minority in history until recently when you ballooned in population growth - just like gypsies and blacks.
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>>2489893
>bunch of shitskins
Ah so Caucasians are now "shitskins"? The stupidity of you cucks (synonym of whites at this point) is quite funny to see.

>Kurds were always a small minority in history
Nothing wrong with that. Better Kurds than Armenians or Assyrians.
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kurds were a mostly irrelevant mountain culture, like most mountain cultures.
Kurds are great, they're nice people, never met a kurd I didn't like. But they don't have a big history.
That's not a bad thing, guys who used to be big always keep big ego's.
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>>2489551
Don't listen to this guy, ask a turkish kurd what he thinks of their treatment of the armenians and the assyrians and he'll tell you "yeah, we definitely picked the wrong side."
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>>2489893
>Kurds were always a small minority in history until recently when you ballooned in population growth
Kurds have always been a majority you dumbfuck, since the Bronze age.
The difference is that they had no lands to call their own due to filth stealing it so they were clumped up under different ethnic groups like the (F)ersians or Arabs.

But now they have the strenght and numbers to reclaim their homeland of Hîtîtstan from the filthy roaches and armenicucks now that they have a base of operations and homeland that used to belong to their ancient Sumerian/Mittani ancestors in Iraqi/Rojava Kurdistan that they could easily reclaim from the filthy ASSyrians and disgusting hairy and smelly Arabs.
And after they are done in Anatolia they will recliam and free their brothers and sisters of Media from the vile and corrupt (F)ersians.

Then the visions of the Kurdish Prophets Isaiah and Zoroaster shall be fulfilled.
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>>2490136
go bxo, mohammed iranizadeh

they got what they deserved for not respecting Kurdish authority while living on ancient Kurdish lands
those who deny it might aswell deny Kurdistan and live like cowards under the Turks while speaking and dressing like a Turk unlike the brave warriors in the mountains who fight and kill the roaches on a daily basis in Hakkari

BIJI SEROK APO
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>>2490177
said no real kurd born in the last 50 years
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>>2490183
said a iranian diaspora kurd who licks (F)ersian ass while making no progress whatsoever to retake the kurdish homeland unlike the ones in Anatolia, Rojava and Iraq

why don't you go cry with the ASSyrians so we are forced to give up more of our homeland due to your incompetence
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Stop stealing ancient Kurdish culture and science.
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>>2483746
He's more punjabi than he is pathan now desu
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Tell me about the Cult of Angels
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>>2491106
Didn't that shit drive a Greek Islamic Kurd in Australia into insanity so he killed a bunch of people with his car while claiming he was God in bodily form like 2 months ago?
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What a shit thread
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>>2491205
Sadly, I have to agree.

We could have discuss the origin of Kurds like rational individuals but off course all the Arabized filth of the Middle east has to crawl out and attack and deny their proud heirtage like the rabid dogs they are.
Nevertheless, Kurd deserve their own nation and Kingdom, anything less would be heretical and people will with time acknowledge their ancient history and ancestry and see through the Arab, Turk and (F)ersian lies.
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>>2483698
theyre mad because they have nothing, despite living there since 15000000BC(according to OP)
your typical WE WUZZERY, havent created shit through history and is mad because they dont wanna be seen as the subhumans they are
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>>2491261
>abu'l-fida
>who is al-khwarizmi
>who is alhazen
>who is ibn haytham
>who is avicenna
>and many others who provided for the Golden Age of Kurdistan
also inb4 "muh persian/arab scientists", which revisionists are trying to push when they are all proven to be of Kurdish origin.

All while the filthy Ottoman roaches ruled the ME for over 600 years and contributed jack shit.
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>>2484285
kurds were the only ones armed because they are savages
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>>2484377
only african tier subhumans have high birth rates, kurds confirmed subhumans
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>>2491360
>Hitler called for the German people to have more Aryan children to prepare for war
>doesn't realize the proud Kurds to the same
Why do you think the filthy Azeribaijani roaches of the Republic of Azerbaijan are crying to the Iranian government for relocating Kurds to Western Iranian """Azerbaijan""" to up their numbers there so that their precious Turkic culture is threatened and the filthy (F)ersians think they can get Iranian Azeri's and Kurds to fight among themselves instead of focusing on the regime.
But the filthy (F)ersians don't realize the true Azeri's and Kurds will unite recreating Medes.
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>>2484694
>dude in background shot in chest
>L A R P
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>>2485619
>kurdish memes
why are kurds such parasites?
I live in sweden, biggest parasites ever, they literally live to spew out same propoganda as you do, pure shill, but people dont take them serious anymore...
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>>2491548
>"but people dont take them serious anymore"
>only non-cucked Swedish men left are currently fighting in the name of Kurdistan
maybe grow a pair, Sven al-Somali and retake your nation from the Arabs/Gypsies and your women don't need to crave BKC so much to protect and breed with them
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>>2490160
>live in same place for centuries
>turks come from nowhere
>create a empire
>present day
>still stuck in the mountains
how does it feel to be a kurd and know all this?
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>>2490177
>>2490199
this dude is either trolling, or is a communist from reddit who romantizie about mountain gommies
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>>2491147
>Greek
>Islamic
>Kurd
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>>2491592
>only non-cucked Swedish men left are currently fighting in the name of Kurdistan
nah its usually left wing fags, those called "liberals" in US who stand by kurdistand because of "MUH OPPRESSION"
typical left degenerate
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OP keeps on we wuzing but provides no evidence.
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>>2490120

Kurds are not fully Caucasian. You have too much australoid admixture because of mixing with gypsies.
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>>2490131

Most people from mountain cultures are small in number except for the Kurds who are now 55 million strong. Look at mountainous people in Europe and compare them to Kurds.

Kurds were nomadic, similar to gypsies and the Turks often used them as a buffer to Persia hence why the speak an Iranian language.
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>>2490160

kek no, Kurds were a small group that ballooned in population.
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>>2490177

seriously why do Kurds look like gypsies so much? I honestly think you were a group of gypsies that adopted an Iranian language.
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>>2491237

Kurds have no history. Name me one Kurdish king. Saladin was a persinized Arab and the Medes were descendent Cimmerians and steppe people, ie not Kurdish.
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>>2483644
why does Kurdistan keep getting larger every time I see a new picture of it?
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