What would Europe be like today if the Marshall Plan never happened?

>>2475081
Eastern europe?

communist

>>2475081
Western Europe would probably be on similar levels of development to a relatively decent Eastern European country like Slovenia or the Czech Republic.

>>2475081
Finland didn't wasn't part of the Marshall Plan, and they're doing well, very well.

>>2475081
The marshall plan was a meme, it changed nothing

>>2475081

All of europe would be a shithole along the lines of eastern europe

>>2475369
>>2475092
No. The lack of Marshall plan is only a very small reason why Eastern European countries are shitholes, the main reason is communist command system raping their economies for 50 years straight.

>>2475081
red

>>2475092
I thought the Czech Republic was fairly well off all things considered?

>>2476009
It is, that's my point. Europe would be alright without the Marshall plan but maybe not as good as it is now.

>>2475081
Relatively similar. It really wasn't that significant.

But, West Germany? A significant effect.

>>2475081
Depends. We can only assume that the slower economic development would have caused tension among NATO countries, thus weakening the alliance and giving the USSR more legitimacy.

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>>2475081
It wouldn't actually look that bad. Marshall Plan just kind of shoved a bunch of stuff in there, but West Germany was already adopting reforms that did away with a slew of price controls and wild currency policies (without the occupiers permission, mind you) that made it an absolute economic powerhouse able to rebuild quickly and withstand an influx of refugees from eastern Germany. The dude is probably the number one reason why west Germany ever go wealthy enough to actually support a welfare state for so long.

European states were still very stable and had very good and functional government.

Massive difference between throwing money at France were regardless of whether it got it would do well and throwing it at Afghanistan or the Democratic Republic of Congo where it barely has a stable state and civil society (that is a society considered as a community of citizens linked by common interests and collective activity).