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Nothing.

climate change, it affected the han dynasty too

>>2458072

Why did 'China' survive as a relatively unified civilization and nation despite suffering just as many barbarian invasions and internal strife as Rome?

>>2458086
the yellow river and good cooks

>>2458052
Rise of Serfdom, wich caused lack of men in the army

Diseases meant a loss of manpower, poor harvests meant a loss of manpower, having to fight against migrating barbarians meant a loss of manpower. Basically no manpower then Atilla comes to fuck shit up.

The Chinese beat the mongols so badly that they fleed to Europe and started a migration chain reaction that started pushing people all over into different lands.

>>2458052
It's really hard to administer a large empire.

>>2458052
the fall of the republic

>>2458086
more people

>>2458052
catholics

>>2458214
That's retarded

>>2458086
There are land and navigable river routes from the northern plain into the Sichuan basin and southern China. Their economy and culture was linked since the bronze age if not by a single polity. Though their collapse was apocalyptic, after the dust settled it was only a matter of time before they reunified.

Rome wasn't as adversely affected and so lasted longer but after the Western Roman Empire fell there was not much left linking it to the east. Justinian's attempt could only make use of naval power to reclaim Mediterranean regions, he would have needed an overwhelming military advantage to contend with the Franks.

Great Hektor son of Priam (the shadow of rome) or Elohim decided that the Roman Empire should fall because he detested the christian dogs who had come to live in it instead of the pagans. So he hit it with waves of invasions from all sides, until it collapsed and formed the Ottoman Empire/muslims and catholics who lived in ghetto shitholes rocked by civil war

>>2458209
This.

>>2458052
Fall of the Republic
> Senate being stubbon greedy upper class fuckwits
> Corruption in the Government and Courts
> Armies owing allegiance to individuals not the state
> Individual ambition
> Emergency powers becoming a common thing
> Cornelius Sulla

Empire fall
> Too large
> Barbarians
> Christianity
> Franks rise to power

>>2458242

But didn't the Romans have just as many navigable rivers? Didn't they spend a good 400 years romanizing their lands with largely succesful results?

I think the answer, at least in the case of the Western Empire, was just a particularly inept administration.

There were great challenges to be sure, but these were nothing that was not insurmountable and nothing greater than the empire had been put through before.

So it came down to individual personalities running the government of the Western Empire, and their poor choices and ineptitudes. History tends to turn more upon the actions of select personalities and individuals more than people like to admit. Too much focus is placed on the macro environment.

>>2458209
>The Republic existed for 500 years, imploded on itself
>The Empire existed for 1500 years, destroyed by countless waves of invaders
Why not the fall of the Kingdom then?

>>2458290
The Rhone is the only major river in France leading into the Mediterranean. The cultural link was the Roman Empire, once that link was severed the cultures started to diverge.

>>2458214
This