Who is the "final boss" of philosophy?

Seems like Foucault at the moment

>>2452556
>posting an early game boss that comes back as a late game regular enemy

>>2452545
Post-structuralism is just a shitty DLC.

>>2452566

>implying foucault is post structuralist

Objectively God/death

>>2452575

>spook spook/spook

Buddha

Don't mistake the finger pointing at the moon for the moon itself

>>2452578
Do ya fear death?

>>2452564
Nah. I posted the final boss that the programmers created and made him god-mode and unbeatable

>>2452583

There is no birth and no death

Where in the game would Plato be?

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Yourself.

>>2452616
Early-mid game.

Somewhere around the same time as Quelaag in Dark Souls.

>>2452583
i fear pain, death about as much as sleep

>>2452632
Don't lie.

Death is pretty scary. It's pretty unnerving to think that everything you're hoping to do won't get done, unless you've already done everything you wanted to or weren't planning on anything to begin with you must be at least a little scared.

>>2452616
He'd be an NPC trader that sells you Socrates

>>2452514
It's Sam Harris
>tfw final boss is gimick boss

>>2452616
Tutorial level.

>>2452690
Sam Harris belongs on steam greenlight

>>2452545
He's not a philosopher, he's a historian gone rogue.
The only real answer is Kant.

>>2452514
Diogenes

Derrida

>>2452635
>done everything you wanted to

There's nothing worth doing. I'm a worthless oxygen consumer that will never in any meaningful way influence or help humanity, I exist for no purpose and I'm unable to find any.

All I ever wanted to do in life is travel around Europe and visit cities and interact with people, but the entire world is a horrible awful place and now there's a 99% chance that in the next 10 or so years Europe will explode into a big fucking war again and I'm going to die fighting for something I don't belie in because the rest of humanity are cunts.

I welcome death. I welcome the sweet release from this hellhole of a world.

>>2452514
Oneself :^)

>>2452616
Plato is an eternal foe.

>>2452727
Plato is the tutorial level guy who is actually the newgame+ real boss.

>>2453243
You sound depressed lol

>>2452514
philosophy is a spook

>>2453374
this

Figuring out how to handle eternity, because true death is impossible.

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This guy here destroyed Nietschze.

>>2453531

Too bad he didn't destroy your Æutism

>>2452514
Wittgenstein

stirner. spooks are impossible to kill

>>2452514
It's some scholastic asshole, holy hell those guys are unreadable.

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>>2453644
underrated

look at how he owned this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKczW14EO_w&t=8s

>>2452624
deep

Zizek

>>2452545
Foucault doesn't really into philosophy, just analysis of structures and systems of power and behavior.

For philosophy I feel like Nietzsche would be pretty far toward the end if only because of how many people misunderstand and misinterpret his work. He has legitimately bamboozled millions of otherwise intelligent people.

>in after fanboys post their favorite youtube nu-philosophers

>>2453243
There's 0% chance that Europe will explode into a war. Even the chances of a Russian intrusion in the Baltics are quite slim.

Realizing how stupid philosophy actually is.

>>2454300
>EU falls apart because of niggers
>thousands of people lose jobs and the economy of big countries goes belly up
>blame niggers
>niggers keep coming in still even with EU gone
>countries grow more butthurt and blame each other for all their shit
>NATO falls apart because of God Emperor Orange
>hello naughty children it's Putin time

Not the depressed Anon but there is a pretty decent chance of a Europe war. It won't be against the niggers like /pol/ wishes tho.

>>2452681
audible kek

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>>2452889
This

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>>2454340
Yeah no that will not happen.

Dubs and it will tho

>>2452514
Wittgenstein

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>>2453243
>All I ever wanted to do in life is travel around Europe and visit cities and interact with people, but the entire world is a horrible awful place
Then help make the world better.

>>2452514
Plotinus.

>>2452624
boom

>>2452624
delete that smug nigger and we're talking

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>>2452705
hey there /pol/

>>2452624
Good one!

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>>2452514
Pic rel
>Your Tutorial teacher

>>2454323
No it's not.

>>2455374
it is. it's just some random ideas that someone thought were worth writing down and some hacks decided that "he was right about everything".

>>2455412
> it's just some random ideas that someone thought were worth writing down
Not like every other academic field?

>>2455412
Same Anon.
A lot of the things we take for granted were once groundbreaking during their time.
When you read Philosophy you really have to understand the Context. This said i am 1000% with what you said about the hacks and their generalizations.
What do you mean random ideas?

>>2455374
Synthesizing from seemingly random ideas is a God-tier ability.

>>2455424
there's a reason it's called the theory of relativity and not the irrevocable truth of relativity

>>2455433
i mean that they were just people like you and me and they had some idea they though was the shit so they expanded upon it and wrote it down. that doesn't make it any more plausible than if i'd write here and now that i have a new philosophical theory. nietzsches thoughts are not more true than yours and mine. there is no evidence that any conclusion any philosopher (or scientist for that reason) ever had is actually grounded in truth.

Arrived late at the discussion, but I guess op is implying Hegel. Hegel is not more complex a philosopher than the average. It's just that his writing style is extreme difficult to read, and he comes up with new meanings for words, which can get extremely annoying. Also complexity is not a quality, it's a liability. Philosophy should be about clearing things up, not murking the waters.

The final boss of philosophy... I've have to give it to Nietzsche for effectively ending philosophy. After Nietzsche it just became impossible. He gave the game away. He is like mister M showing to the public all the magic tricks magicians used to make.

>>2455540
but nietzsche is often very vague too. why is that there's no philosopher with his calibre that is/was able to actually word his ideas in a crisp clear way that isn't cluttered by unnecessary brabbling?
wasn't it einstein who said "if you can't explain it simple, you don't understand it well enough"?

>>2455632

He's the secret boss after you beat the final boss AKA Ruby Weapon from FF7

>>2455566
Nietzsche isn't vague at all. He's bang on the nose.

He's just also extremely concise, which means that what he's actually saying is under multiple layers of allegory and metaphor. For the precise purpose of cutting out the unnecessary babbling.

>>2455566
>einstein sed it so iz rite
kke
>>2455642
Ruby Weapon can be defeated easily several different ways.

Who comprises the FOXHOUND of philosophy? What are their code names?

>>2455654
Are you talking about Heiddeger or about the game

Who's the Big Boss of philosophy?

>>2455658
The game. It's a bad analogy because Ruby Weapon is only hard if you're like 7 and go in aimless.

>>2455661
Karl Marx

>>2455676
Does that make Lenin the Solid Snake of philosophy?

Who's the Ornstein and Smough of philosophy?

>>2455654
i didn't say it was true just because einstein said it. as with everything, it's just, like, his opinion - man

i happen to agree with him so i use it. me agreeing with him doesn't further cement it as the truth. just that we have similar ideas about the topic at hand. which is perfectly fine


>>2455649
it's been a while since i've actually read nietzsche. just went back to read a few passages and you're right. he's pretty straight to the point. the only thing i'd criticize is that he feels obliged to explain every tiny aspect of his arguments. sure, that's probably the idea behind his books, but it leaves no room for individual interpretation and also makes his sentences and passages blow up into giant constructs.

>>2455709
>he hasn't taken the meido pill yet

>>2455667

It's not a bad analogy because it wasn't intended as a comparison of difficulty, only that Heiddeger is a thinker from a completely different school of thought that requires you to rethink your previous strategy. You could pretty much brute force any main story boss, but you can't jump in unprepared against Ruby Weapon, because he requires a paradigm change in your tactics, same goes for Heiddeger

>>2455720
>you can't brute force ruby weapon
you literally can with KotR or learning to manipulate Cait Sith.

>>2455734

you think 95% of players did that ? No, they ran in head first and got trashed in 2 minutes.

>>2455738
>people dont do this so it can't be done brutally

>>2455510
They express an opinion. It is important to do this. Everything is important. It just that pure dogma_fags ruinit for everyone.

>>2455747

Yup

>>2455540
>Nietzsche
>effectively ending philosophy

lol no

/his/ - Philosophy and bad Videogame analogies

>>2455676

That is a amazing answer. Hegel would be the Boss, i guess.

Were Heidegger and Wittgenstein genuinely groundbreaking philosophers?

This guy >>2452591 is right, you know. Hume is unbeatable because his philosophy is brutally honest - not in the edgy existentialist way, but in the "let speak not about my personal feelings and childhood complexes, but about what reality really is" way.

And Hegel, Heidegger, Derrida and similar incomprehensible shit are not even bosses, they are these "kill 10000 mobs" side quests - tedious, but ultimately pointless.

>>2455680
Yes, and Mao is Liquid Snake

>>2455685
Descartes and princess elizabeth of bohemia

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>>2455800
>everyone failed to carry on the will of the boss

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>>2452514
4chan

>>2453733
Checked, where is this from?

>>2453644
underrated

>>2452616
Plato is the Captain Blue of philosophy.

>>2453243
Disgusting nihilism, your views just mirror your own depression, get help and then work on your wrong absolutist vision of the world.

>>2456056
defoo.org

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He is the final boss.

>>2452616
Last boss of the Platowin section of the game.

>>2453538
Underrated post

But who is the first fight of philosophy?

>>2456037
This is perfect

Plato

>>2458450
C.S Lewis is a mini-boss in the Christfag Caverns leading up to the real boss (Thomas Aquinas). C.S Lewis then appears later in the game as a common mook.

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>>2453806
I'm thoroughly convinced Zizek is a CIA or crypto-Fascist plant masquerading as Communist and building his entire career off that and getting as much exposure as possible in order to make Communists look ridiculous and discredit Communism to people who would otherwise be open to left/marxist-leninist ideas.

Also, he literally started as a Social Democrat when it was actively sabotaging socialist Yugoslavia.

Real "communist" philosopher there.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/marxistleninist.wordpress.com/2010/07/28/what-about-slavoj-zizek/amp/

>>2452574
he was a commie who despised traditional values

>>2452545
>

Science

>>2458974
Systems thinking already discredits Marxist-Leninist ideas

>>2453589
Stirner would be the hidden boss that's not needed to complete the game's main story

>>2452514
Unironically I think it would be Nietschze

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step aside weaklings

Wittgenstein (Resolute reading? Still not sure)

In the end, it all returns to Plato.He was right from the beginning

>>2460080
>form of the forms
BTFO

>>2458974
>CIA
>fascist
I remember 8th grade.

>>2452514
Kant solved all essential phylosophical problems, every philosopher after him is an autistic kid who plays with words

>>2460096
God's mind

>>2459186
btw i dont know what philosopher it looks like something to do with hair and moustache?
anyway this guy looks like he fits so i post him

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>>2452514

Joe Rogan

>>2460096
>Humans can comperhand the concept of space
Yeah and?

Your own ego.

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You do all of the influential Existentialists (Nietzsche, Sartre,etc) and they're all insane as shit and have crazy boss rooms. They all have long ass monologues and tell you how hopeless everything is.

Then this motherfucker is just sitting in a garden waiting for you. He just stands up gingerly and tells you he doesn't blame you, and that regardless, everything is gonna turn out alright. And then it starts.

>>2460792
The room is guarded by both Heracleitus and Demokritus.

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>>2460818
>it's an o&s style double fight

>>2452556
unironically this. he has some conjecture, but he always labels it as such. when it comes down to it, he laid down the groundworks for interpreting reality with phenomenological objectivity before anyone else did.

>>2460766
why is it necessary to overcome your ego

>>2460792
You beat him by using Lao tze's Tao.

>>2458976

t. "redpilled" brainlet

>>2462916
>terrorist obscurantist as final boss
Sure...

Who would be the tutorial boss and then first real boss?

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>>2462980
start with greeks

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>>2458976
lol ok

>>2462980
>tutorial
C. S. Lewis

>real first
Ayn Rand

Heidegger certainly got us back onto topic

>>2460234
how did he solve the hard problem of consciousness

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>>2458976
Why things like this happen

free time

>>2455696
>he feels obliged to explain every tiny aspect of his arguments

That's what happens when you believe you've found the truth.

>>2458617
Socrates
He defeats you and the other philosophers and then makes you all fight in mortal kombat.

>>2459228
This
He questions the purpose of the truth and instead focuses on the ego. If he's right about the nature of man or about the truth then you lose. Either the truth doesn't really matter or there is no truth at all to find.

>>2452616
He is the Ultros.

>>2453290
I was depressed and that guy is a bitch.

>>2460308
That "guy" was the emperor of Finland. Read a book.

>>2458974
Zizek is the kind of guy to masquerade as different ideologies just to mess with you

*sniffs internally*