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Any more historic examples of this?

I think the prime example is the Manchus.

>conquer China

>enforce Manchu culture

>eventually Han-ized

>Now only 10 people speak Manchu, and most Manchu are assimilated

their conquest of China backfired. They might still exist today if they remained in Manchuria
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>>2428605

So you're saying Civ style culture flipping really is a thing?
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>sacks Rome
>demands his men refer to him as "Alaricus", raids Fabricae to dress them up as Roman soldiers, corresponds only in Latin
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>>2428605
It's called assimilation.
Because you can't be the foreign conqueror of several hundred million people and expect to stay on the throne without trying to appease them by adopting their culture and language. Kublai and the Yuan did it. Mughals did it. Ptolemies did it. Royal Hautevilles of Sicily did it. Rurikids did it. The House of Hanover did it.
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>>2428605
Like any time steppe nomads conquered sedentary populations. I think the only counter-examples would be Uzbekistan and Hungary.

OTOH for instance the Kushans turned from man-eating terror of the Transoxian steppes into Greek-speaking Hindus/Buddhist pacifists.
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Wussup. What are you guys discussing ITT?
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>>2428605
>Any more historic examples

It's what USUALLY happens.
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>>2428645
To be fair, he wanted to be Roman before he sacked Rome. He specifically tried to negotiate a rank in the Roman army and lands for his people on the border of Dacia to act as a buffer against the Huns. And he tried to keep the sack of Rome civil. Churches were untouched and anybody who sought shelter in a church would be unharmed as "we are all Christians here."

Honorius went full retard.
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>>2428658
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>>2428652
>Hungary
They still pretty much assimilated: converted to Christianity, changed to an agraruan lifestyle, the only thing that got carried over was the language. Today there is little known about pre-11th century Hungarian culture.
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>>2428652
Manchus/Jurchens weren't actually nomadic, more cold forest/river valley subsistence farmers in Manchuria/Maritime Siberia. Still definitely were considered "barbarians" and alternately vasselized by the Han and Koreans until they finally unified the 8 Banners and invaded China proper.
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>>2428605

It's rare that a conqueror imposes his culture on his conquests, you really need a race with an unusually certain sense of their own righteousness, as with the Romans or the Victorians.
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>>2428605
The Bulgars and Avars come to mind.
Early Slavs were great at assimilating everyone for some reason
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>>2428660
Not what happened in America, Australia, and Africa during colonial age
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>>2428835
>invaded


you mean were let in
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WE WUZ QINGS N SHEET
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>>2428605
>Their conquest was mainly done by ethnic "Han" soldiers and administered by "Han" officials.

The concept of being culturally "Chinese"(Hua) was never just limited to the Han,who would much rather relate with local identities(such as a fallen polity) rather than a true ethnicity proposed by late Qing revolutionaries.
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>>2431354
none of the people who were conquered were civilizations
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>>2428605
Mongols.
> bring unparalleled destruction to the Islamic world
>become Muslim
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>>2428605
oy we'z British now m8
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