Dear Christfags

>>2422077
I believe the truth laid bare comes in the Holy Bible. That is why I am a Christian and proud to say that.

0/10 poor bait thread

ITT: OP going through his edgy 15 year old teenager phase

>>2422077
christards on suicide watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HooeZrC76s0

>>2422099
Christians can never be on suicide watch since suicide is a sin.

>>2422103
After my sword, knowledge, has shattered their faith they can be.

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evolutionists on suicide watch

>>2422120
>picture at the bottom right literally of two shark fins
>several others are blurry images on the level of the loch ness monster and big foot footage

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>>2422084

You know. I suspect there will be still religious people in 50 years when AI is a thing and everyone is immortal cyborgs.

"But muh Jesus/Muhammed!"

>>2422126
You know, you're gonna look real stupid on judgement day.

Protip: Star Trek is not real, it's never gonna happen.

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>>2422134

Honestly if it happens then it will be Mohammad coming back. Then well, it will be worth it.

>>2422091
>fuh-door-uh
>what theists say when they are scared and confused

>>2422134
>>Judgement Day
Speaking of things that are never going to happen. Also Immortal cyborgs aren't really a thing in star trek for the most part.

Didn't even read. Bad pasta.

>>2422155
>"ye shall be as gods"
Thanks for admitting you're on Satan's side.

Unfortunately I have to break it to you, your side loses.

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>>2422176

So the Muslims win in the end?

>>2422185
Islam is a satanic crypto-pagan religion that has nothing to do with Judeo-Christianity.

So to answer your question, no.

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>>2422192

Outside of the using the Bible as a circular reference tool, what proof do you have that the Quran is wrong and the Bible is right?

>>2422192
Islam is Ante-Nicene Christianity + Muhammad

>>2422212
Because Allah is Satan/Lucifer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLoUq8vybzY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTi1FZkoEsM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86PL9wueH-s

Islam was created by the Vatican.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll0otULYzms

I could also have a field day noting the falsehoods in the Quran regarding OT events. The Quran says that Ishmael was offered, the Bible says Isaac. The Quran says Abraham built the Kaaba, the Bible says no such thing.

Islam is nothing but a satanic counterfeit, its only purpose is to block the Gospel in MENA.

>>2422239
Most importantly, Islam denies Christ's deity.

Jesus warned us of false prophets. 600 years later, a goat-fucking illiterate has a terrifying encounter with a demonic spirit in a cave.

Mohammed is the text book definition of a false prophet.

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>>2422239

I said you couldn't use the Bible to prove the Bible is true.

Again circular reference. Outside of using the Bible how can you demonstrably prove Islam is false without proving Christianity false?

>>2422077
You fail to understand that with every almost every single scientific discovery I also find a little more faith in God

Astronomists said a Trappist-1 like planetary system couldn't harbor life

You haven't even gone past Mars or Venus and you want to wildly run around saying, "no God no God no God"

>>2422415
What about all the ones that show that the bible is full of shit?

>>2422077
>You live twice as long as your ancestors ever could have dreamed of
>Methuselah lived 969 years

lol read the bible before you try to disprove it retard. This is why no one takes atheists seriously.

>>2422425
>christians can't even recognize their own trolls

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>>2422425
OP on suicide watch

>>2422434
>>2422425
samefag. creationist anon you make it super obvious when the "two" of you always post at the same time and #2 always complements #1

>>2422424
Proof time lad

>>2422250
Self referential dependence is fundamental principle of this universe. Everything operates on this principle. You cannot 'prove' anything to be 'true' without it. Mathematics rests on the principle of self referential dependence, so does logic. So why cant we do it with the bible?

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>>2422442
wrong, but stay salty though

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>>2422447
>replying "wrong" instead of screenshot proof to the contrary

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>>2422442
I wonder if this science cuck will take this new evidence into account and change his hypothesis?

>>2422445
>sky isn't solid
>no water above the sky
>humans and animals werent created in their present form 6000 years
>no global flood
etc

>>2422455
also an important one: hebrew wasn't even a language that existed in Moses's time yet he is given authorship of the Torah, Deuteronomy directly claiming this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Sinaitic_script

>>2422455
>literal interpretation of bible
>thinking your doing anything other than proving protcucks to be idiots

>>2422464
>le inconvenient parts of the bible are allegory
reminder that Catholics took genesis as literal before the modern era when it became apparent that it was wrong

>>2422455
>humans and animals werent created in their present form 6000 years
>no global flood

These things are historic facts.

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>>2422475
don't bother arguing with him, he's an evolutionist who believes in monkey mythology and millions of years.

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>>2422455
That's not proof, where's the evidence

At the end of the day I can say gravity is fake because it was written by a man and it's in a text book which are constantly proven wrong and need to be changed to reflect "accurate knowledge"

You have no way of proving gravity actually exists and isn't just a spook

Welcome to 2017

>>2422077
>some guy looked in a telescope and measured the blue shift on a star and recorded these measurements and published it in a journal
>some black guy who barely got through school and even then only because of his skin color then takes the wild speculation based off of one dudes light measurement and makes a tv show with expesnive graphics and pretty colors
>This has disproven God and also made homosexuality moral

wew lad

>>2422077
euphoric

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>>2422471
reminder that Catholics are responsible for the modern era's conception of the creation of the universe.

>>2422513
That very same Catholic shot down the Pope's proppsition of turning it into dogma.

>>2422151
>becuz i said so
Take your trash back to Riddit.
>>2422250
>I said you couldn't use the Bible to prove the Bible is true.

>Again circular reference.
Why? Does it trigger the worthless /b/tard?

>>2422103
Hearty kek

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>>2422077
GUHUH GUHUH GUHUH!

>>2422434
WHERE IS TRISMEGISTUS ON THAT SCALE
REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>2422176
lol nice job posting a bible quote that provides evidence for Judaism's polytheistic roots.

Also

>satan
lol nice another fictional character.

>>2422077
You forgot to tip that fedora while you're on some science niggers cock ol' buddy-o.

Daily reminder that it's

>Agnosticism
>Judaism
>Christianity
>Atheism
>Islam

>>2422077
>2017


All people bow to your overwhelming statement.

>>2422077
>Man has peered into the darkest corners of the cosmos
no

>and observed the universe on its smallest scale
Barely

>You walk around with more computing power in your pocket than was available to all of NASA in the 1970s. You live twice as long as your ancestors ever could have dreamed of, you have food in abundance and the future is brighter than ever. Humanity has achieved more in the last century than it ever has in its entire history. People are happier, freer, crime is lower, you're safer, more secure, and the entire wealth of human knowledge is available to you at your finger tips. You live in the dawn of humanity, you were born after the long dark night and you will never know the suffering that every other generation did.
ok

>And you still think the words of dehydrated desert madmen in the middle east are literal truth, you unironically believe in God, and think homosexuality is a bad thing.
What does that have to do with anything

>You're literally a walking insult to everything humanity has ever achieved, lmao.
Says the one betraying thousands of years of belief

>>2424113
I think you meant,

>Aztec religion
>Tengri
>Pantheism
>Polytheism
>Buddhism
>Animism
>Agnosticism
>Catholicism
>Islam
>Everything else
>Atheism

>>2424139
Meme religions do not apply

>>2423001
>becuz i said so
Did you link to the wrong post?

Morons will take this at face value.

>>2422120
> Ancient sculptures depict dinosaurs like how they look in jurassic Park which we now know to be completely incorrect.
STEP IT UP

>>2424113
Back to riddit.
>le smarty middle ground faec meme zone

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>>2422084

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>>2422077
>you have food in abundance and the future is brighter than ever.
WRONG
WRONG
WRONG
life has disappeared into central waste disposals, the future is death
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>2426277
I'm glad someone else gets it.
Science was a mistake.
The only thing it's done is dramatically increase the global population of chinks and darkies.

>>2422077
>you unironically believe in God, and think homosexuality is a bad thing.

I'm an atheist and I believe that homosexuality should be criminalized

>>2422077
>implying that math itself isn't God

>>2422243
>Islam denies Christ's deity.

Of course it does, after all, Islam is a monotheistic religion.

>>2426401
Science wasn't entirely a mistake.

Taking an absolutist stance on anything with science is usually bad, because it is a system of trial and error.

Ever since Henry George back in the 19th century started writing about how the foundations of Darwinism, Malthusianism (see The Origin of Species), are fundamentally flawed, has this theory of evolution been questioned. The foundations of creationism are not terrible. The manifestations of Darwinism in modern life is abhorrent. You see social Darwinism stratifying the classes so severely economic life is like a ladder which you cannot climb. You see the ramifications of Darwinism justifying genocidal tendencies(see The Descent of Man), you see the worst mentalities sprout from it.

Bad Bait

Designing nice looking cg space scenes while you avoid shitting your pants is quite a feat but hardly can be described as peering into the cosmos, there are many valid reasons to distrust the bible but computer graphics of the universe summed to hopeful guessing is not one of them.

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>>2422084
>I believe the truth laid bare comes in the Holy Bible
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>2422077
I notice you avoided the issue that science is starting to point towards God. Particles at their most fundamental level are quantized and act like digitized bits. Consciousness has a fundamental role in shaping reality. The universe began like a burst of light from nothingness. Scientists can hold out for naturalistic explanations but at the moment there are a LOT of arrows pointing to the idea that objective reality just doesn't exist and we're participants in a holographic reality created within the mind of God.

>>2428177
Did you read that in a book about quantum mysticism written by a pothead?

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>>2428177
>I notice you avoided the issue that science is starting to point towards God
Literally the only people who say this are theists with a pop-science level of understanding.

>>2428185
Post a pic of your scientific credentials with timestamp.

>>2422077
Dude I'm sober ur post is debunked

>>2428193
I don't have any.

But I also don't go making sweeping statements about science either.

>>2428182
Haven't brushed up on your science in the past 50 years? Particles only being able to be at discrete levels of energy has been known since 1900. The idea that the mind creates reality is looking like the only way to reconcile certain phenomenon without going into multiverse bullshit, and of course the Big Bang is the Big Bang.

>>2428201
Yes, multiverses are instantly dismissible bullshit but the idea that reality is created by looking at it isn't.

>>2428185
It's true, though scientists like to throw a secular veil over it and dress it up in theories like the 'simulation hypothesis'

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/blogs/physics/2014/04/is-information-fundamental/

>>2428209
The universe can retroactively change how it behaves based on observation. Look up the quantum eraser experiment.

>>2428211
>The concept man invented to describe reality, surprisingly, describes reality

Really made me think.

>>2428217
I'm not dismissing the concept.

I'm pointing out that it's hypocritical to immediately jump on board with it while disregarding a competing possibility all together.

>>2428221
>Reality behaves suspiciously like an artificial construct created by an intelligence
Uhhhh...Guess it's just coincidence guys...heh...

>>2428200
Perhaps you should shut your mouth then, maybe by purchasing the books those scientist you praise release and reading them others may have a wee bit more credentials.

>>2428226
Except I haven't made any statements or declarations on science. I've just rightfully approached your statements with scrutiny.

Can I see your credentials?

>maybe by purchasing the books those scientist you praise release and reading them others may have a wee bit more credentials.
You mean like getting a pop-science level of understanding?
Isn't that what I originally said you had that you then took offence to?

>>2428225
>What we know about the universe implies this relatively mundane observation
>WOAH WE'RE LIVING IN THE MATRIX LADS
Classic.

>And you still think the words of dehydrated desert madmen in the middle east are literal truth

But I don't. I believe that the Bible is the whole human condition in bookform, but I also believe that our literalism is completely inadequate to assert the truths in it and that the more poetically you look at the Bible, the more sense it makes.

Also, don't call people names for disagreeing with you, it's not very friendly

>>2428243
That the universe is just a holographic projection of a fundamental underlying mathematical basis and there is no actual 'physical' reality as we know it isn't mundane m8.

>>2428263
The observation is very mundane.
The fantastical unproven assumptions you're making about it however are not mundane at all.

>taking an obvious bait thread seriously

>>2428243
Only that the book of a scientist on his theory of everything he devised based off his whole career of research goes beyond reading on facebook or a newspaper about how Dawkins, whom is a biologist and thus not even in position to speak, yells at biblecucks.

>>2428292
I think you're confusing the idea that phenomena can be mathematically modeled with the idea that information is primary in reality. That article was not talking about the idea that mathematics can describe things in nature, which I agree is mundane, it's talking about things in reality being fundamentally information which gives rise to their physical properties in reality, which is not mundane. That's what the article is discussing.

>>2428260
Gnosticism, no need to thank me.
You can also read on sacred geometry, there are some archetypical things that are common.

>>2428307
I hope you realize that Richard Dawkins isn't the only pop-scientist and that not every pop-scientist is an atheist.

Indeed a lot of them like to combine pop-science with apologetics.

>>2428310
That's not the observation I'm talking about. I'm on the same page with you there.

I'm just pointing out that you're running wild with this in a way that's completely unwarranted based on the subject matter itself. And indeed scientists aren't even unanimous on it.

>Information (in a quantum sense) is "possibly" fundamental to the universe.
Okay.
>The Matrix is a documentary
This is tabloid tier speculation.

>>2422120
Holy shit you're not joking, oh how sad

>>2428333
I'm not even saying that Dawkins is a pop scientist, he's a biologist, you dont even know what popsci is.
Pop science is having a small notion of science from school and filling the gaps in your formation with the hot opinions of the very few atheist scientists that make it into the very marxist media; its such an aberation it should be punishable with community work.

>>2428355
He is though. He writes books and makes documentaries on science designed for popular consumption. Hence he is a pop scientist. This is not to say he's not a real scientist.

>Pop science is having a small notion of science from school and filling the gaps in your formation with the hot opinions of the very few atheist scientists that make it into the very marxist media; its such an aberation it should be punishable with community work.
Fucking what?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_science
ctrl+f "Marxist" - zero results
ctrl+f "Atheist" - zero results
ctrl+f "Richard Dawkins" - two results.

Pop science is simply science marketed to a general audience. It doesn't have an agenda.

>>2428373
Actually theres a Marxist agenda, because you will know about Dawkins but never about Campbell or Goswami.

>>2428387
What is Marxist about Richard Dawkins?

>>2428405
Atheism of the worst kind.

Also people like T. Campbell tend to backup their claims with calculus and so on, while Dawkins merely has a hot opinion.

>>2428419
>Richard Dawkins is an atheist therefore the entirety of popular science has a Marxist agenda.

You're a retard.

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>>2422077
>>2422084
>Buddhist who lives his/her entire life in charity go to hell to suffer for all eternity.
>life long criminals who repents to God (not the victims or their family) at the last second of life can go to heaven.

Honestly how can moral person believe God is good and just.

>>2428425
Everything has an agenda these days.
In the 80-90s male and female brain were different, then equality came and science promptly discovered that there were no differences, finally trannies had to have rights, so science found male and female brain to be different, and trannies happened to have a brain corresponding to their desired sex.

Here's the science you worship, fag.

>>2422475
>>2422481
Please be trolling

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>>2428563
Facts don't care about your feelings.

>>2422077
>You live twice as long as your ancestors ever could have dreamed of
confirmed ignorant. life expectancy was lower before because of high infant mortality. If you made it to reproductive age, you had a pretty good chance of making it to 80

>>2428603
>being this fucking retarded

>>2428315

You are preaching to the wrong choir, my friend. Start a separate thread. Perhaps we can discuss something there then.

I don't believe in science. What's wrong with simple faith?

>>2428638
They are not mutually exclusive.

Science proves the Bible is correct, stop acting like science is our enemy when it's our friend. Take a look at the articles at creation.com

Atheists and evolutionists hate science.

>>2428638
The Bible says you have to love God with all your heart, strength and mind.

>>2424132
>>betraying thousands of years of belief
Yeah cause belief in the celestial uber-jew is totally worthwhile in comparison to the massive increase in standard of living that the modern world offers.

Oh wait, no it isn't.

>>2424139
Other faiths are not meme religions, sorry. They are sincere religious beliefs and if you don't want your belief system to be insulted by obnoxious assholes like me, maybe you should extend the same courtesy to other religious people?

>>2426277
The only people who are really doomed are third-world dipshits who would die of some other cause anyway dude, the first world will simply invent our way out of the problem and then go on to exploit and later colonize our own solar system and then other star systems later.

>>2428580
>taking a king with a king
hmmm

>>2428781
>thinks all his food and material wealth come from a Walmart space factory
We only prosper from taking other peoples shit anon

>>2428449
Catholicism, not even once. Try orthodoxy

>>2430485
If orthodoxy says it's okay for unbelievers to go to heaven that's better.

>>2428768
A standard of living that is about to drop off a cliff because atheists worship political liberalism as their new God

>>2422077
>Man has peered into the darkest corners of the cosmos

Implying.

so fucking true. I often think how embarrassing it is if intelligent extraterrestrial life is watching us and those who cling to archaic beliefs

>>2432901
There is no life in the universe outside of Earth

>>2428449
Yes kiddo, that's how good religions work.

Sorry that it is still so controversial that it triggers you.

btw hell is just separation from God
>>2428768
>increase in standard of living
Not at all.
>>2426477
>trial and error
And it's all error. It's trash.

Many fedoras think that they will have a chance to protest and say there was no evidence, this is a hilarious perspective that assumes the true religion is the one of the roman church, since the rest of religions don't have a judgement.
It is of course easy to demonstrate the roman church is wrong, so all of these fedoras are going to wake up in hell wondering how come they don't have a say, the saddest part is they will assume everybody went to hell.

Truth is, like all things, going to heaven requires work, meditation and related practices to attain the state of gnosis, and nobody will care about how nice you were or how amazingly you explained that there was no evidence, you simply will pop in hell while we pop in heaven.

>itt: christards have failed to provide a single argument

>>2422529
Good, a good scientist knows that everything that comes from scientific inquiry is subject to change.

>>2428803
That's serious chessing

>>2422077
>The year is 2017.
According to some. According to others, it's 5776.

>Man has peered into the darkest corners of the cosmos,
Rubbish. If they are the darkest corners, they are not visible and nobody has "peered into them".

>and observed the universe on its smallest scale.
More rubbish. Build better microscopes, find smaller things.

>You walk around with more computing power in your pocket than was available to all of NASA in the 1970s
And have done far less good with it. Thanks for the reminder.

>You live twice as long as your ancestors ever could have dreamed of
One of my ancestors lived to be 969 years old. I don't think I'll outlive him.

>you have food in abundance
Situationally false. Many are starving to death.

>and the future is brighter than ever.
If by "brighter" you mean "nuclear flashes and ELE asteroid collisions", then I agree with you.

>Humanity has achieved more in the last century than it ever has in its entire history.
What absolute hubris. The invention of fire and the wheel are more amazing than this computer. More useful too.

>People are happier, freer, crime is lower, you're safer, more secure, and the entire wealth of human knowledge is available to you at your finger tips.
Wow, this is delusional. Studies indicate young people in first world countries have higher stress levels than prisoners did decades ago.

>You live in the dawn of humanity,
Human beings just now started to exist? Where did you get your degree again?

>you were born after the long dark night
Nigga you crazy. Night is coming, and coming soon.

>and you will never know the suffering that every other generation did.
Bollocks. Tell that to the man ISIS lit on fire, or the men ISIS drowned in cages. Or the men ISIS crucified. Or the babies smashed on the ground by ISIS after being ripped from their mother's wombs.

Why does anyone listen to this madman again?

>>2435088

>Invention of fire

Apply yourself, this was too obvious

>>2435122
>Something is more important than fire.

Go ahead and name it. Water? Did people have to invent water? Air? Dirt? What do you think was more important than the ability to start fire?

Have you never watched a survival show? Ever?

>>2435088
>Bollocks. Tell that to the man ISIS lit on fire, or the men ISIS drowned in cages. Or the men ISIS crucified. Or the babies smashed on the ground by ISIS after being ripped from their mother's wombs.

Before 70 years, shit like that was common in Europe. Nowadays you only hear about it from world's most religious place. That's progress, isn't it?

>>2428650
Which god though? There are over 4000 being worshipped at the moment, what makes your god the right one? Please don't say "we have a book", as most of the other have one as well.

>>2435187
All other gods are incomplete aspects of the Christian God

>>2435195
Christian god is infantile approximation of Jewish god.

>>2435220
Got it backwards. The Jewish God is an infantile approximation of the Christian God because the Jews rejected the last prophet who actually revealed Gods true nature.

>>2435243
Which one? The water-walking communist, the magic healer or the illusionist who "made water into wine"?

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>>2435195
what about Molech?

>>2428449
I don;t know if this belief still exists, but Christians used to believe in a form of Limbo where people who never had the chance to become Christians went after they died.

This applied to the ancient Greeks and Romans, Egyptian pharaohs, most practitioners of Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, etc, and so on.

They weren't torture for eternity in this place. They more or less just lived in a boring void for eternity. It wasn't as bad as living in Hell, but it wasn't as good as being in Heaven either.

>>2435430
pretty sure this just comes from Dante's Inferno

>>2422077
sounds EXACTLY like something Satan would say

>>2435502
the entire OT sounds like something Satan would say
t. Marcion

>>2435502
Just don't take the last one, because that seals the deal. And it's hell.

>>2435438
Does it? I could've sworn it was an official Church belief.

>>2422077
This is bait of highest quality.