Anschluss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR9TObQA-4M

Holy shit. when was the last time you saw a crowd of people cream their pants like this for something political?

>>2402307

>>2402317

this says it all really. There's really no difference between a german and an austrian, and Austria was weakened after the first war.

>>2402374
So would it be correct to put it like this: If the US north and south split(for different reasons than they originally did) the anschluss would be like if they both joined together again?

>>2402317
>jew says it was a nasty takeover
the video shows literally millions were ecstatic about it

Wow, there are so many people there, surely that means Hitler did nothing wrong. After all, there was a celebration (not at all paid for or sponsored by the Nazis and Nazi sympathizers) and Austrians on the street loved it (and absolutely were not in utter fear of an armed takeover!).

>>2402485
Those things aren't contradictory

>>2402498
Admitting that the Anscluss was genuinely popular doesn't equal saying Hitler did nothing wrong dibshit. If anything a lot of people who focus on its popularity do so for precisely the opposite reason: to show that Austrians were responsible for the horrible shit too and can't hide behind "we wuz Hitler's first victim" BS

>>2402517
If Anschluss was genuinely popular, why wouldn't Hitler allow it to be voted upon? You'd think after assassinating 800 political figures in that country he'd have a sympathetic administration in place there.

QED

>>2402485
I honestly don't think any historian thinks it was a "nasty takeover." Literally every Austrian was happy about it.

>>2402580
Because the regime that going to told the vote was a dictatorship too, so the vote was not going to be fair

>>2402307
>Germans speaking ethnically german kingdom re-unites with the rest of the german kingdoms/duchies after losing its empire and becoming economically weak and surrounded by enemies

wew lad makes you think why would they do this?

Only the cucks in austria now would oppose it.

The real question is why don't they want re-union with Germany now?

Also Shushnig was a Clerical Fascist so its not like Austria wasn't just a weaker version of Germany that that point.

>>2402307
Because after the dissolution of Austria-Hungary they wanted to join Germany but were forbidden to do so under the Treaty of Versailles. Hell, Austria had been bucking for Grossdeutschland for centuries by the time Germany unified. Anschluss was just a realization of a dream Austria had for centuries at that point.

>>2402833
>The real question is why don't they want re-union with Germany now
A better question is why anyone would want to be in a union under Germany now. Austria got off scot free after WWII despite being just as complicit.

>>2402847

I guess that's true. The current political situation in Germany is not ideal.

>>2402833
>The real question is why don't they want re-union with Germany now?

Is this legally allowed?

Austrian troops marched north into Germany as German troops marched south. It wasn't a takeover.

>>2402985

technicly speaking austria can't even be in the EU together with germany since it's constitution explicitly forbids "any sort of political union with the state of germany"

everyone just conveniently forgot at the time, makes it quite easy for them to get out if they want to

just declare that since them joining was unconstitutional it never happened

>>2402580
But austrians did vote for it.

>>2402833
>only cucks would oppose handing over their nation to another that is lead by a childless communist who hates her country.

You're not too bright are you?

>>2402998
Why is everybody so scared of Austira forming together with Germany? It doesn't even make sense, because in WW1, Austira was Austira-Hungary. They hadn't been united with Germany since the HRE

I could see making this stipulation AFTER ww2, but to impose that stipulation on them during WW1 reeks of nothing more than "fuck you we don't want you guys to be a threat"

>>2402450
More like if they split and the South industrialised past the level of the North and forced the North to rejoin under the banner of the south, but everyone in the north was sick of being pushed around by Mexico and Canada and welcomed the rejoining. It was a fairly unique event as far as I'm aware.

>>2403014

after austria-hungary was disbanded the austrians voted overwhelmingly in favor of a union with germany which the entente then promptly forbade, proving once more that apparantly everyone nationality deserved self-reliance except for the germans of course

also you're not exactly correct, austria was part of the german confederation, which was the successor of the HRE, it was disbanded after the 7 weeks war which was fought exactly to keep austria out of germany

the constitutional bit was put in after WW2 since apparantly making the job the responsbility of the italians wasn't reliable enough (it also doesn't help if you alienate them over colonialism of all things)

>>2403026

A-H was always a unique case, I don't know any other modern state in which there wasn't an absolute majority nationality, so when all those other nationalities broke away they turned from a great power into a small power almost over night

>>2403027
>t was disbanded after the 7 weeks war which was fought exactly to keep austria out of germany

when you realize european history is just people trying to stop austira from forming with germany

literally why though? the 1000 years of the HRE weren't that bad.

>>2403147

that time it was because austria didn't want to give up hungary so they'd end up with a massive amount of non-germans in germany (compared to the few poles that prussia brought in) and also because they were catholic and prussia feared for catholic supremacy instead of a protestant one

in 1918 this would be an issue anymore because austria now only consisted of germans and the catholic-protestant divide had grown less severe

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>>2403037
>I don't know any other modern state in which there wasn't an absolute majority nationality,

ahem

>>2402833
Because we hate Germans. They are uber cunts and we Austrians are nice people who like to ski.

>>2403254
Du bist süß, Sepp. HDGGGGGGDL

>>2403246

fine, I'll give you that

but 36% is still much bigger then 23%

and one can make the case that 81% of yugoslavia were at least south-slavs compared to 43% austrians and hungarians (which are both very distinctive from each other), hell if I count all the slavic people in there together then I arive at 44%

>>2402307
>Why was Austria so receptive?

Remember the fuckfest of a political situation that Germany experienced after WWI? The same thing happened in Austria. They were fucking sick of shit like this and wanted stability and a strong leader.

>>2403287
>81% of yugoslavia were at least south-slavs
Try going to Belgrade and telling people that they are basically no different from Croats.

There had been political chaos in Austria like in Germany. Essential, the socialists and Catholic conservatives refused to work together and had their own brownshirt/Freikorps style armies. Eventually things came to a head and the OVP, the Catholic Conservatives took over in a short civil war. Aside from this, there was also a smaller German nationalist faction that advocated Anschluss, but the Austro-fascist dictatorship cracked down on them from 1934 onwards along with the Austrian branch of the Nazi party. (cont)

>>2403373
There was a general feeling that Austria would not survive on its own. Austria had most of the finishing industries for the former Empire, so after World War 1 it appeared that Austria would be extremely impoverished. The states of Vorrelberg, Tyrol, and Salzburg held referendums for joining Switzerland, Italy, and Germany respectively. The political polarization, global economic condition, and general feeling of "defeat" lead to the conditions where Anschluss was possible. The Austro-fascists lost the support of Mussolini as a result of the Pact of Steel. Hitler threatened Schuschnigg, the Austrian dictator who had no foreign backers now that the Italians backed down and Anschluss went through.

>>2403373
There was a general feeling that Austria would not survive on its own. Austria had most of the finishing industries for the former Empire, so after World War 1 it appeared that Austria would be extremely impoverished. The states of Vorrelberg, Tyrol, and Salzburg held referendums for joining Switzerland, Italy, and Germany respectively. The political polarization, global economic condition, and general feeling of "defeat" lead to the conditions where Anschluss was possible. The Austro-fascists lost the support of Mussolini as a result of the Pact of Steel. Hitler threatened Schuschnigg, the Austrian dictator who had no foreign backers now that the Italians backed down and Anschluss went through.

>>2402307
Because they wanted to be united in a German state.