Who is the bigger historical meme The vikings or the spartans?

>>2401209
gotta be the Vikings.

Spartans considering they've been around longer and the "Le Thermopylae" meme has been meme'd for over 2 thousand years now

I'll go with the guys who were beaten by an army of faggots

Sparta
>Sent boys as young as 7 to a military camp to learn survival skills, pederasty was involved
>considered archery to be cowardly
>dual monarchy
>valued glory in battle
Vikings
>seafaring lifestyle that depended heavily on theft for commerce
>lost most of their battles
>disorganized, not necessarily loyal to any King
>didn't care for glory like traditional Norse warriors and instead killed easy targets like women, children, the enfeebled, etc.
Vikings.

>>2401424
>Archery cowardly
When will this meme die? Archery requires a lot of skill AND strength. English longbowmen started training at around 7.

>>2401209
Ninjas

>>2401586
The fact that archery requires skill and strength has little bearing on the fact that Spartans considered it cowardly.

>>2401598
Because hiding behind a shield is so brave right?

>>2401356

The Persians?

>>2401603
It's a hell of a lot braver than launching pointy things at someone from on top of a wall where they can't get to you.

Spartans raped (military victory) everything within a 10000 mile radius. Vikings Fought nothing.

Normans suxk.

Odoyle rules!

>>2401632
Archers fought on the field too. When they ran out of arrows or the enemy got too close, they acted as light infantry and switched to swords, axes, mauls/mallets, etc.

>>2401685
With half the training

>>2401209
Spartans
Even their contemporaries were fucking Spartaboos

>>2401652
>Spartans
>actually fighting anything that isn't Persians those two times

>>2401701

and a quarter of the armor, against enemies with four times the armor and twice the training.

boy isn't that cowardly.

>>2401209
Vikings. At least Spartans fought at Thermopylae and were a substantial power during their time such as with the Peloponnesian war. Vikings on the other hand were just a specific group or caste of raiders from Scandinavia during a particular time that favored them.

>>2401209
>Vikings
Not a lot of contemporary sources, some sagas, third party accounts and runes that give away little information
>Spartans
a shit ton of contemporary sources, local historical accounts, art etc. that paint a pretty clear picture of the Spartan city state.

Sparta is better documented and examined than the vikings.

>>2401685
The overwhelming majority of archers did not do that.

Spartans.

They were Literally Who? until the shitty Hollywood movie "300" made them popular in pop-culture.

>>2402445
The Vikings weren't members of a state, and arguably had a larger impact on Europe than Sparta ever did.

>>2401632
>>2401701
>>2402534
lmao shit talk all you want and talk about "bravery" arches were the most valuable and dominate part of any army for thousands of years. The most dominate armies in history all were mostly missile troops, and without them the infantry would fall apart

>>2402785
>dominate

>>2402785
No they weren't.

>>2402790
>correcting a typo on an image board
pathetic
>>2402794
Wow such an amazing argument , your right anon

>tfw spartaboo
Spartan culture is superior in every way to Athenian

>>2402802
>your

>>2402813
delicious

>>2402569
>They were Literally Who?
You're retarded. Spartan society has been analysed since fucking Rome.

>>2401209
Vikings. They were mostly traders and only raided when they had to (and their raids mostly consisted of sacking small coastal villages and monasteries), but Nordaboos will tell you that they were all 6' 5'' berserker warriors made of pure muscle that fought for the glory of Odin and Thor. On the other hand, Spartans are overly romanticized. You ask any person on the street about the Spartans and all they'll be able to come up with is the battle of Thermopylae, which they probably don't even know the name of. Basically, the point I'm trying to get at is that people are fucking morons and will glorify any historical force that they see featured in a half-decent Hollywood movie.

>>2402411
>finally get cornered after peppering the enemy with arrows from a distance for three quarters of the battle
>"A-Aren't I brave for being put into a position where I can't run away anymore and actually have to fight the men I've been shooting with impunity for hours!"
Archers were the shitters of the ancient world. There's a reason the English were famous for using archers, it's because they have a proud tradition of being dicks.

>>2402802
You've made an assertion. I have refuted it. Provide evidence or fuck off.

>>2402785
> arches were the most valuable and dominate part of any army

No, firstly it was infantry, then heavy cavalry, then infantry again.

Even the Mongols and the Turks focused on heavy cavalry charges rather than archery.


> The most dominate armies in history all were mostly missile troops

Utterly false.

Apart from the Han, English and a few others, virtually all other armies on Earth throughout history were not primarily missile troops.

Also, military archery requires little skill, as you do not have to be accurate since you are shooting at large blobs of me.

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>>2402958
>no
>refutation