What would be different if the partitions never happened?
>>2390102
we probably would be into space
>>2390102
Why was Poland unable to find any allies? What made them more unstable than their neighbors?
maybe sweden and the ottoman empire should've got it instead of austria and prussia
>>2390102
They could have conceivably kept the ball rolling for another several decades until the Napoleonic wars would happen and then who knows how stuff would go?
>>2390467
one of the ideas of poland which would appear via the weather/their culture was that they would be annexed
Poland's motto should be "Lord, protect me from my Allies, Ill take care of my enemies"
The final partition was a reaction to this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ko%C5%9Bciuszko_Uprising
Other countries were happy with allowing a small weak and controlled Polish state to exist. Without the third partition Poland would've been "saved" by Napoleon. However there's also a theory that without the Kościuszko Uprising France would've lost the revolutionary wars (because the armies used to supress the uprising would not have been occupied).
But if we disregard that then perhaps Polish independence would've been secured during the Vienna Congress. And because of this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_May_3,_1791
The so-called free election would cease to be a problem. Poland would be ruled by the Vettin dynasty and there would be no free election. Also no liberum veto. Two institutions which ultimately led to the downfall of Poland. From that point it's impossible to guess. Either:
1) Slow renewal of the Polish state
or
2) Total disregard of the status quo decided in Vienna and another war.
>>2390102
They would have become another antiquated, oppressive shithole like Austro-Hungary
>>2390102
Yes
>>2390467
Their version of democracy made it basically impossible for the government mount any meaningful defense. The American Framers used it as an example of what NOT to do while writing the Constitution
>>2395100
"The administration asserts the right to fill the ranks of the regular army by compulsion...Is this, sir, consistent with the character of a free government? Is this civil liberty? Is this the real character of our Constitution? No, sir, indeed it is not...Where is it written in the Constitution, in what article or section is it contained, that you may take children from their parents, and parents from their children, and compel them to fight the battles of any war, in which the folly or the wickedness of government may engage it? Under what concealment has this power lain hidden, which now for the first time comes forth, with a tremendous and baleful aspect, to trample down and destroy the dearest rights of personal liberty?
Daniel Webster (December 9, 1814 House of Representatives Address)
>>2390467
Poland had allies from time to time like Austria and at one point or another other neighbors were its ally in various wars throughout the XVII century. But different monarchs had different visions
>>2392318
>Poland doesn't get partitioned, but instead remains a decaying power, gradually becoming irrelevant and a mere puppet of a larger country.
>this Poland is to Russia what Austro-Hungary was to the German Empire
>eventually it breaks up into smaller entities as ethnic nationalism becomes stronger and a they suffer a great military defeat centuries later
Interesting. makes you wonder what would have happened if it was the Habsburg Empire that got partitioned in the late 18th century instead of Poland.
>>2390102
Poland wouldn't be a meme irrelevant country