The first Mexican Empire

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Mexico would look bigger I think

>>2378558
Lol, Mexico, what a stupid country.

The west coast and the southwest would be horribly undeveloped as opposed to what we have.

At least Phoenix wouldn't exist, so that much would be nice

>>2378713
Would they?
Mexico would have populated them when gold was found.
Although the Russians were already moving in.

>>2378558
Mexico would have recived lots of migrants to California.The whole region would be poorer but there would be a balance of power in NA which would have been pretty interesting in WW1,the US civil war or WW2

>>2378771
>Mexico would have populated them when gold was found.
Yes but Mexico was always very unstable and it never really attracted much private investment.The region would be overall poorer

>>2378785
The thread is assuming the Mexican Empire stuck around.
So it's a stable government under Iturbide, yes, probably a fuckton of revolts and fighting. But more stable than what actually happened.

What I'm curious to know is if they'd have outlawed slavery as soon as they did under the first president.

>>2378811
>What I'm curious to know is if they'd have outlawed slavery as soon as they did under the first president.
Most likely.Mexico didn't rely on slavery unlike Colombia or Venezuela

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>>2378558
>would of

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>>2378558
>how would the Americas and or the world look like by then?

By when?

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>>2378558
northern mexico is the most developed part of the Nation apart from Mexico city. that has a lot to do with the many mines found around the north.

the cities of the south west would probably be smaller, and las vegas, as we know it, would most likely would never exist

if you'd want an idea at how the south west would look like, it would look like northern mexico pre drug war

however LA and Hollywood may actually look rather that same assuming the golden age of mexican cinema still takes place
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Age_of_Mexican_cinema

the U.S. would have probably never had a civil war, as most people who fought in it agree the states and territories won in the Mexican war led directly to the civil war

>“The Southern rebellion was largely the outgrowth of the Mexican war. Nations, like individuals, are punished for their transgressions. We got our punishment in the most sanguinary and expensive war of modern times." - U.S. Grant

the Mormons would have populated much of the further northern parts of mexico as they had planned. maybe the would have rebelled at some point, but Mexico had no problem with them and it seemed the feeling was mutual

indians like the comanche, apache, navajo would have won some form of autonomy in Mexico because as the Mexican army was never able to fight them off completely, but they lacked enough power and population to become fully independent

the Texas rebellion would have been crushed. there was no logical reason for it not to be in real life, their ware several rebellions in mexico, all having to do with people hating Santa Anna, and it was the only rebellion to have succeeded, Santa Anna was a fucking idiot.

in this alternate timeline he was most likely killed for plotting to overthrow the Imperial government as he did in real life

Texas would have been never populated with white american squatters and may have actually been a haven for escaped slaves to flock towards

there ya go

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>>2378558

>Mexicans unironically believe this

It's still astonishing to me that Spain/Mexico never even SURVEYED California. They didn't even have records of mega-features like Mt. Shasta. They had no idea that gold was sitting right on streambeds in the Sierras.

They didn't even make a small feint at understanding what their own purported "territory" contained. They never even sent a handful of explorers to map it all out.

Given those facts, they deserved to lose what they never properly claimed.

>>2381001
>mormons discover gold in california the same day ownership of the area is transferred to the US

JUST

>>2380977
Believe what? that the South West and Central America is rightful Mexican land won after the war of Independence from Spain? Then yes.