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Misleading but not wholly inaccurate. If you think that the canon Bible has remained the same since originally written you're retarded.
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>>2367466
>a Jewish comedian ripping on the Bible
Not even /pol/ but what more need be said?
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Yea, you would have to be an idiot to believe in religion.
Lets move on.
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>>2367487
>you would have to be an idiot to believe in philosophy
>you would have to be an idiot to believe in science
this is how you sound
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Accurate, but the most important part is the fact that the kings who had no true religious authority tore it apart.
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>>2367492
Science is based on evidence.
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>>2367494
And when scientific discoveries prove a certain religion is true?
Which it has by the way.
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>>2367476
>>2367480
since this is a relevant thread, here's a question
why are the coptic christians venerating the pilate as a saint? they also claim he saved jesus and did not kill him, this is pretty intriguing since coptics are on the of the oldest christians
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>>2367502
>And when scientific discoveries prove a certain religion is true?
>Which it has by the way.
And which religion is that?
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>>2367502
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>>2367507
The Biblical Christian worldview.
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>>2367506
I think that they see Pilate as merely an instrument of God's will. He didn't even really want Jesus to be killed.
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>>2367502
>MUH SHROUD!!!
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>>2367547
What contradiction?
Name one.
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>>2367558
>i have seen the face of god
>no one has seen the face of god
>Mark 10:18 basically defeats the whole purpose of trinity
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>>2367554
And archeological discoveries.
And genetic discoveries.
And discoveries in quantum physics.
It goes on and on..
In academia, people are losing faith in Darwinism. The theory of evolution has been exposed for what it is, a farce, lie, myth.
Each year that passes and there are more "intelligent design" scientists. We are at a point where IT scientists are censored and even fired from their jobs from daring to question the atheist draconian worldview.
Feels good that the global flood is a scientific, historical fact.
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>>2367570
Shroud has been debunked by radiocarbon dating.
plus most christians believe god created the world in 6 literal days or 6,000 yearrs (which is wrong)
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>>2367570
Okay honey.
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>>2367570
>Feels good that the global flood is a scientific, historical fact.
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>>2367570
Feels good that people denying evolution also deny modern medicine. So they either die off or end up as hypocrites.
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>>2367580
>(which is wrong)
How is it wrong?
And all dating methods are extremely flawed and inaccurate.
https://www.trueorigin.org/dating.php
The Flood is real, check the hydroplate theory.
All of the world's geology and layers can be explained with a global flood. It is infact more reasonable and logical to do so given the huge amounts of evidence.
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>>2367570
>Feels good that the global flood is a scientific, historical fact.
please give a source
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>>2367589
Evolution did nothing for medicine, retard.
That's like saying beer contributed to sports.
Evolution is a cult/religion, and is separate from science. It is something you believe in.
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>>2367597
>kent hovind screenshot
wanna know how i know you're baiting?
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>>2367595
not him but this video helped me change my mind, its full of proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lktmmd7YnD8
its not a coincidence that all ancient cultures all over the world talked about a global flood. the chinese even mention 8 people surviving it.
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>>2367604
>ad hominem
Wanna know how I know you have no argument?
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>>2367594
>How is it wrong?
Dinosaur bones say "fuck you"
>And all dating methods are extremely flawed and inaccurate.
if they were inaccurate the first Quran and the dead sea scrolls wouldn't have been dated accurately
needless to say if they were as you claim we'd already have a better alternative. (which we don't)
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>>2367466
Not true.
The Bible we read today is pretty much the exact same bible as the first ever bible.
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>>2367607
it wasn't an ad hominem. i was just pointing out that you are literally using one of the most thoroughly debunked apologists on the planet to further your ludicrous point.
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>>2367618
OP is actually right though, the bible was actually molested by the king james
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>>2367612
Dinosaur flesh says "Fuck you" to """millions of years"""
Oh, and thousands of dragon stories all over the world that eerily resemble what we call dinosaurs.
Or pots/cylinders depicting men riding on dinosaurs, made by people that lived a couple thousand years ago.
But let's just ignore all that, huh?
Also fun fact: evolutionists believe dinosaurs turned into birds, LOL. fucking hilarious.
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>>2367619
Show me the "debunking".
Because all I've seen is personal insults and attempts at ridicule.
Address his arguments, show me he's wrong.
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>>2367625
>OP is actually right though
No. Being wrong on the singular vs plural makes the entire thing a joke, and therefore OP is wrong.
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>It's another 'atheists getting BTFO' episode
ill just leave this here
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>>2367627
Way to sidestep the scientific point there and follow up with anecdotal evidence about pots with people riding dragons on them. Those crazy evolutionists!
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>>2367643
You still have no proof for evolution.
How does it feel being on the wrong side of history? You're gonna look real stupid on the day of judgment.
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>>2367627
https://letterstocreationists.wordpress.com/dinosaur-soft-tissue/
skip to "Assessment of Evidence That Soft Tissue Can Persist for 70 Million Years"
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>>2367648
man these cartoons and youtube documentaries are incredibly solid evidence
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>>2367651
http://www.genesispark.com/exhibits/evidence/historical/ancient/dinosaur/
Good luck explaining all of this.
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>>2367648
I'm not the guy you were replying to, but if you want to be a petty reductionist, you can't prove God's existence either. Funny how that works, guess they're both equal. For what it's worth, I hope you enjoy being a retard in an extremely flamboyant way with these comics and stuff. Excellent material for convincing people you're right
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>>2367659
You mean like those cartoon depictions of supposed hairy primitive cavemen?
Yeah, that's some solid proof for evolution!
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>>2367634
here's an entire video series that dismantles, point by point, the very seminar that screenshot was taken from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUEusDsR61k&list=PLSr63zLFV8-E1pKStl54Ujdj2MBCUPETX&index=1
have fun, faggot.
also, just for funsies, i should point out that this picture is wrong and dumb as well. "lucy" is definitivley an australopithecine. chimpanzees as we know them didn't exist when she would have lived (3.2 million years ago). literally a cursory glance at wikipedia shows that this picture stumbles at the starting gun.
i could continue. for instance, i could point out how we have more evidence for heidelberg man than just a jawbone, and piltdown man has been acknowledged as a forgery by the scientific community since 1953, but ai sincerely doubt there's any chance i will provide you with any evidence to change your mind on this topic.
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>>2367662
It is illogical to not believe in God.
Atheists are irrational yet pretend to be the rational ones.
Seems like yet another Biblical prophecy fulfilled, fools who claim to be wise.
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>>2367661
>it's a "anon replies with a wall of text that he hasn't even read" episode
don't come back to me until you've read the link i've gave you
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>>2367670
>It is illogical to not believe in a supernatural entity who's existence is unprovable, save for these very specific religious texts.
ok
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>>2367663
post more funny cartoons, they're a hoot and a holler
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>>2367671
You don't need to read, just look at the images.
A baby can do it, so it shouldn't be too hard for you.
If you want a real wall of text, here is one that completely tears apart the fantasy of evolution: http://www.newgeology.us/presentation32.html
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>>2367466
Does he not realize that we have ancient manuscripts...? There is more and better textual evidence for the New Testament than any other ancient text by several orders of magnitude.
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>>2367607
I like how these comics attempt to discredit evolution by presenting it as a religion.
Since you believe evolution is wrong because you believe in.. Religion.
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>>2367670
It is illogical to not believe in God (t. me)
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>>2367663
No see, most people without developmental disorders don't look at the hair as proof of evolution, because that's fucking insane.
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>>2367685
No, I believe evolution is wrong because it doesn't have any proof, while the Biblical narrative has.
It's called using reason. God gave you a brain, use it.
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>>2367680
>"No one can know how life originated!"
>this is evidence that God definitively originated life
>thinking evolution is a theory of how life originated
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>>2367680
like i said, read my sources or gtfo
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>>2367687
People without developmental disorders don't believe they came from a rock.
You have to be seriously insane to believe your grandparents were monkeys.
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stop replying to him you fucking mongs
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>>2367605
>religion and mythology were used to explain natural phenomenon
>all ancient civilizations lived near great rivers
I wonder why they all have stories about great floods.
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HERE'S THE STATE OF EVOLUTION TODAY: "Evolutionary theory itself is already in a state of flux… all the central assumptions of the Modern Synthesis (often also called Neo-Darwinism) have been disproven" -
Professor Denis Noble, Evolutionist, Physiologist and Biologist, May 2013
1. Abiogenesis. They have given up on it and now say it's not part of evolution theory.
2. They are now admitting that they have no explanation for diversity. So now it's not evolution either.
3. They have given up on the fossil record since it looks like creation. So now they say they don't need the fossils.
4. Gould and associates say there is no gradualism (no transitionals). Stasis is the underlying factor in the fossils so it's not evolution either.
5. Random mutations and natural selection produce nothing so that's out too and they are rejecting it as evolution.
6. All they have left is the common ancestor monkey. The inability for "kinds" to interbreed destroys that one so it's not long for this world.
7. PE is now a failure so it's out as evolution as well.
8. The “tree of life” has also been rejected.
Evolution is a myth.
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>>2367696
I was hoping you weren't a troll, but even Ken Ham would have gotten right that it's apes and not monkeys that we're supposed to have a common ancestor with- which btw, does not mean we came from apes.
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>>2367701
>they were wrong, cuz i say so
Great argument.
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Logical Fallacies of Evolution 101
How often have you heard evolutionists say: "There's really no disagreement among reputable scientists when it comes to evolution." Or: "Evolution is settled science." Creation Moments has heard such statements fall from the lips of Richard Dawkins, PZ Myers, Eugenie Scott and many others, too numerous to mention.
Clearly these evolutionists are all working off the same page in their playbook. They're also showing that they aren't thinking clearly. Why? Because they are writing books, making films and giving speeches tearing down scientists who disagree with them. But wait - didn't they just say that there's no disagreement among reputable scientists and we're dealing with settled science?
By saying things like this, evolutionists believe that people can be easily fooled by one of the oldest logical fallacies in the book - the argumentum ad populum. As used by evolutionists, this fallacy can be stated like this: "Since all scientists believe in evolution, evolution must be scientifically correct."
Even if the first part of this assertion were true - which it isn't - the second part does not logically follow. It's like the child who tries to justify some undesirable behavior by saying, "It must be okay because all the kids are doing it." Besides, if scientific truth is determined by majority vote or by what most scientists believe at a certain point in time, then Darwinism itself would have been rejected when it was first proposed.
The argumentum ad populum is an illogical way for evolutionists to sway people to their position. Watch out for it whenever it's used by others ... and avoid using it yourself as you seek to defend biblical truth.
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>>2367689
You literally follow a religion that pushes faith as a virtue.
If you refuse to look at facts it doesn't mean they don't exist.
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Evolutionists have to rely on logical fallacies, because there is no evidence supporting the theory that species produce offspring that are not of their species. Only by using logic errors can evolutionists generate a belief in something that has not occurred and is not occurring.
Begging the Question: This is circular logic. An assumption is used to validate a premise. Evolution is assumed to be factual; therefore, evolutionists dismiss outright fraud as being acceptable because it illustrates a true point. One popular form of this is, "Although it is mathematically impossible for life to have occurred by chance, we're here, so that proves it happened."
Hasty Generalization: A small sampling of data is used to “prove” a large conclusion. For example, evolutionists like to claim that evidence of people dwelling in caves in former times means humans came from a more primitive species. This is overgeneralizing at its extreme. In fact, humans are still dwelling in caves, and not because they are a primitive species.
Hypothesis Contrary to Fact: This tries to prove a point by creating a hypothesis that has already been disproved. For example, evolutionists state that theists are retarding science. This is contrary to fact. Many scientific advances were made and are being made by people who believe in God. Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo, Newton, and Mendel, for example, all believed in God.
Misuse of Authority: A group of “experts” is used to prove a conclusion, even if that group does not actually agree with it. An example is "All educated people know evolution is a fact."
Chronological Snobbery: This fallacy says that the evidence is ancient, so it can't be verified by observation. Thus we have the "millions" of years timetable for evolutionists.
You will find that every argument in favor of evolution hinges on a logical fallacy. All the evidence clearly points to design, not accident, as the source of life.
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>it's a retard uses their own lack of understanding of a subject to prove it's wrong.
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>>2367711
Atheists have way more faith in evolution than Christians have in the Bible.
I could never have as much faith as evolutionists. Blindly believing in something that has been debunked & destroyed? That requires extreme faith.
Of course we both know the real reason why atheists continue to believe in evolution even when it has been proven wrong. Their *desire* and *will* is for there to be no God. Admitting to the existence of God means their lifestyle is threatened.
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>>2367466
A Christ killer wants the evidence of his crime dissmised so he can do it again
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To see the fallacy Hypothesis Contrary to Fact in full force merely read the literature of any evolutionist and note that the literature will have references such as: may or may have, must or must have, possibly, could or could have, should or should have, might or might be, etc. Then note that their conclusion demands to be recognized as scientific fact. Apparently evolutionists did not get instruction concerning scientific axioms and principles that demand that any conclusion that rests on these kinds of phrases can never be considered a valid theory or fact.
One hasty generalization is when micro-evolution (adaptation within a species) is used to support macro-evolution (the change of one species into a different one.) The first is merely normal. The second never occurs. Yet evolutionists say that because some bacteria are resistant to antibiotics, this difference within the species proves that species change into creatures that are not of their own kind. That's a hasty generalization for you.
Evolutionists are constantly begging the question. They base their extrapolations on assumptions. A good example of this is the rock record. Evolutionists say that slow, steady rate erosion created rock layers that were obviously caused in a cataclysm. Evolutionists ignore the real world of sudden disasters that dramatically and suddenly change the landscape, since that ruins their theory of slow, predictable change over millions of years.
The theory of evolution is often referred to as a tested and proven scientific fact, when evidence overwhelmingly is against it. In fact, the theory of evolution is based on conjecture, and from there assumptions are made that contradict observable fact. Evolutionary arguments cannot withstand objective, in-depth criticism because they are nothing but hot air.
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By true scientific standards, evolution is not even a theory. A scientific theory is confirmed by observations and is falsifiable. There will be proof whether it is right or wrong.
Evolution cannot be put to a test, since it supposedly happened millions of years ago and we certainly never see it happening now. It can never be proved—either true or false. It has always been on speculation alone.
Because there is no actual evidence to support evolution, proponents resort to logical fallacies. Evolution puts forth a tautology, which is the circular argument that the fittest survive, and therefore those who survive are the fittest. See how one statement is used as proof of a repetition of the same argument. The fittest—those who leave the most offspring, evolutionists say— leave the most offspring. A hamster spinning in its cage could hardly go in more circles!
There is a line of reasoning known as a "reductio ad absurdum" ("reducing to absurdity"). Evolutionists like to do this all the time. They try to show that belief in a Creator is false because it is absurd. "We cannot see the Creator, we cannot hear the Creator, and we cannot touch him," they say. "So we're supposed to believe this tripe?"
Meanwhile, we cannot see species turning into another species, but they expect us to believe that they do.
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>>2367724
Even if it has been debunked and destroyed (it hasn't) that doesn't prove christianity in any way.
Luckily though, this kind of religious dogma is eroding in the western world as people become more educated.
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>>2367580
Only if you bothered to actually read in depth about the shroud instead of relying on reddit and wikipedia you'd see it has an accuracy that would take a time traveler to fake
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Evolution is a religion. Yes, evolution is the faith of atheism because it replaces God with man. When you've conned yourself into believing that some kind of ancient slime morphed into progressively complex and directional life forms, you are in the realm of faith, not science.
http://www.newgeology.us/presentation32.html
https://www.trueorigin.org/spetner1.php
https://www.trueorigin.org/creatheory.php
https://www.trueorigin.org/isakrbtl.php
http://www.evidentcreation.com/TRM-Logerr.html
>Archeological Evidence supporting the Bible
http://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology.htm
>Dr. Jonathan Sarfati, biochemist and chess master says evolution is false
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ-3fP4H8Ss
>Sarfati refutes Bill Nye the Clown Guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvzMIJla28g
>The Pagan Roots of Evolutionism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rovovsBCQWQ
>Tracing Genesis Through Ancient Culture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFgohPpu0rE
>Overwhelming Evidence for a Global Flood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lktmmd7YnD8
>Overwhelming Evidence that Dinosaurs lived with Man
http://www.genesispark.com/exhibits/evidence/historical/dragons/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niDCq3TbvOo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6M1b36KbHs
>Zeitgeist Debunked
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFI6m6Icav4
>Kent Hovind debunks Evolution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shyI-aQaXD0
>Evolution is a myth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjvuwne0RrE
>Darwinism: The Greatest Deception of All Time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMr278CMAIA
Feels good being on the side of FACTS and EVIDENCE.
Feels good knowing the Bible is literally true.
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>>2367732
haha fuck you
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>>2367749
hey buddy, you are a gay man
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>>2367758
you suck a lot of dick my friend
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>>2367758
>spout blatant retardation and ignore anything that threatens your worldview.
>expect a real conversation.
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>>2367775
>scientific facts are retarded
Whatever you say, God-hating commie.
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Evolution is impossible because a creature can't change it's categorical form. A bird can't become something other than a bird, but it can become a different kind of bird. Likewise a human can only be a human. The incarnation is dependent upon human being confined to the human form, otherwise the union of divine and man is senseless, as "man" is just a name for a current state of some particular matter.
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>>2367704
No, it's not at all. This guy is a crackpot and is disregarded by the evo bio community. He's not even primarily an evolutionary biologist, rather a physiologist.
He's not even against evolution, he just thinks it happened differently (which is heavily disputed by his peers)
But you wouldn't look for that, would you? You see a science man who "debunked" evolution.
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>>2367749
/thread
Don't respond to the atheist shitposters, they already lost the debate.
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>>2367779
wabawu really makes my brain toodle-la doo
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>>2367779
"Science facts"
All this is old "science", speculation and cherrypicking. I have a feeling you've never sat down and actually researched evolution yourself, as you present it as much different than most people would. In the real world, evolution is accepted because the science makes sense (and is demonstrably true) as opposed to places like "new geology" and other creationist sites with no qualification or peer review and can be written by literally anyone. If you step out of your bubble, you'll see you're the crazy one.
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>>2367732
>Evolution cannot be put to a test, since it supposedly happened millions of years ago and we certainly never see it happening now.
you don't know shit about evolution
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>>2367779
>God-hating commie !
Creationists in a nutshell, right there.
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>>2367558
Compare the agony in the garden in Matthew and John, they're completely different.
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>>2367811
>Creationists in this thread
Provide links, articles, proof, evidence, data.
>Evolutionists in this thread
Nothing but shitposting and personal attacks
Looks like Christianity wins again.
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>>2367732
You say you can't see it now since it happened so long ago and you believe in a patchwork book from a 2000 years ago with no further developments since then? What??? Why does this make any logical sense?
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>>2367820
Just because someone writes something on their website doesn't make it true brainlet.
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>>2367466
Lemme summarize that
"*tips fedora*"
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>>2367466
it's more like written, maybe edited a bit, canon debated, translated a couple of times,the whole KJV stuff can be deleted, since it's anglo specific., and the early christians werent illiterate, the couple of decades thing is really short for ancient historical texts.
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>>2367820
All from known creationists and IRL shitposters. No one can actually trust a site called "New geology".
Besides, there are a couple links, but you havent bothered to watch them. You could also just google "evolution" and all your weird questions could be answered.
Anyway, you know that you have all these posts copy and pasted and ready to go, as you're eager to spread these lies. We, on the other hand, are "unprepared" because most of the world knows you're stupid. You just have all this stuff ready because you know that here your bait will be taken and this is the only place you'll be listened to.
Otherwise, you'd be out in public being revered as true! New Geology would be taught in schools! You'd be right! Oh wait... it was, and now people realize it's dumb and pay it no heed. So, blame the jews for trying to push evolution or whatever but no one will believe you or your silly "evidence".
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>>2367709
Even in modern times China has suffered floods that killed millions. Catastrophic floods happen somewhere in the world almost every year. Of course there are going to be myths and stories of floods in ancient cultures.
More importantly, it's impossible to name a year in history where every ancient culture was whelmed at once.
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>>2367783
>...the union of divine and man is senseless, as "man" is just a name for a current state of some particular matter.
There you go. You thought it through and got there in the end. Kudos.
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>>2367845
>Ad hominem
>Appeal to Ridicule
>Ad Populum
I spot 3 logical fallacies in your post, and not a single actual argument. Nothing of substance.
Into the trash it goes.
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I'm pretty sure only Kent Hovind would uniornically cite Kent Hovind and Jack Chick comics a source at this point.
Hi Kent! When did you get out of jail for all that tax evasion and mail fraud?
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http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/misconceptions_faq.php
/bread
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>>2367744
if it's real then how why does carbon dating put itat 13th century?
surely if it was real it'd would've been dated to jesus' era right?
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>>2367851
Everyone believes the sky is blue therefore it must be green since that's a fallacy.
These people who devote their lives to studying the world must all be liars, they must have a vested interest in evolution because reasons.
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>>2367853
They apologized half a year ago to Kent for jailing him. His ministry got all the papers and everything showing he did nothing illegal.
Even when the government admits to being wrong and having made a mistake, jailing an innocent man (to silence him), atheists still use this old attack.
You sure are desperate.
Oh, and celebrating the draconian way of political imprisonment, how Communist of you.
>Can't win a debate?
>Resort to censorship
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>>2367851
>doesn't answer me
Why isn't all your evidence accepted as fact in the scientific community? Send it to all the biggest universities.
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>>2367857
https://www.trueorigin.org/isakrbtl.php
LMAO!
Creationists destroyed you.
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>>2367862
[citation needed]
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>>2367851
i spot exactly one shitty meme and a use of the fallacy fallacy in your post.
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>>2367872
Look at his videos, retard.
It's not my fault you live under a rock and use outdated data.
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I'm not a scientist but, if I were, I'd recommend the cool, clean taste of Gold Leaf tobacco.
If I had verifiable proof that evolutionary theory needed to be significantly modified or overturned, I'd publish as quickly as bible basher here agrees to suck cock.
There'd be fame and a Nobel prize for that motherfuckery. Einstein tier scientific adulation and groupies blowing me six times a day. Shit would be so ca$h.
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>>2367883
[citation needed]
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>>2367570
Curiously as a physical science graduate student I have yet to encounter anyone in the field who regards evolution as anything other than a known physical process akin to gravity. It's almost as if you are saying these things to comfort yourself and have no experience with the subject.
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>>2367867
>UHHHH ITS NOT EVOLUTION ITS VARIATION
This is the absolute dumbest creationist deflection. Not sure if I want to keep reading.
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>>2367907
Pugs fucking disgust me.
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>>2367914
awww come on.
Its not his fault that he was bred to have a face so scrunched it destroyed his ability to breath properly.
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damn, evolutionists getting destroyed in this thread
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>>2367925
it's a samefag who keeps dumping links and copypastas he haven't even read and keeps ignoring links people give to him
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>>2367466
He sort of seems to lose his train of thought and just tail off at the end there.
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>>2368011
It's stand up comedy, it all in the delivery.
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>There was only one Christian, and he died on the cross.
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>>2367820
You're high on ideology. You need to chill the fuck out.
Evolution is one of the most well substantiated theories in current science.
I know you'll probably ignore this, but here's a Youtube channel I implore you to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/user/potholer54
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>>2367820
>Looks like Christianity wins again.
so you because you disproved atheism means christianity is right? there are millions of religions, good luck finding the right one
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>>2368026
So why are people taking what a stand-up comic says about evolution seriously in this thread? Why are you actually debating philosophy instead of joking around?
You fucking retards, this guy is a propagandist and he is trying to spread the philosophy of atheism.
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>>2368335
>So why are people taking what a stand-up comic says about evolution seriously in this thread?
Because that's the thread topic you fucking idiot.
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>>2367480
Dumb ad hominem.
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>>2368335
OP's image doesn't say anything about evolution.
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>>2368341
>i take comedy seriously
You are everything wrong with this world and everyone now thinks you are retarded. Go suck George Carlin's dick
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