Is there anything more honorable than asceticism?
Does [non-religious] asceticism have a place in contemporary days? Does it hold an inherent value?
All across the world, throughout history, for both genders, all religions and cultures... asceticism has hold a place. Humans seem drawn to it, in-itself.
Are we just masochists?
At some point any wise human being will realize that our every action is motivated by the need to stimulate our minds and our souls with worldly actions and possessions. Wealth, sex, drugs, vanity, power are things that most of us are motivated by and are things that shape the way we act. But things things will never fulfill us. There is little in life that is truly fulfilling because by nature humans always seek more or grow discontented by the things we do have.
The ascetic withdraws from this hellish cycle and instead lives a simple and often painful life so that he trains himself to become accustomed to nothing. He accepts his place in the world, even if that place is nothing.
Once you are free of the cycles of desire, you can think more objectively about human existence.
The only thing I am skeptical about is the possibility of eliminating desire or even conquering it. It will always be there lingering in the back of your mind.
>>2355449
How dare they? They need to be wagecucking at faceless corporation number X or STEMing to make a buck!
>>2355383
What makes you think asceticism is noble? What help does it offer anyone else?
>>2355449
>the possibility of eliminating desire
It needn't, shouldn't and couldn't be eliminated - the act of asceticism is the challenge.
As for conquering - what does that mean? Perfection? Why would perfection be needed? True devotion and persistence is sufficient. Noone has never "conquered" anything.
>>2355488
Why must nobility be extroverted?
>>2355557
I suppose it doesn't have to be. But as far as what one does with their own body, I don't really think there are noble or ignoble things. I guess as long as it's not impacting anyone else then I don't think it's even on the morality/nobility scale.
Reminder that you cannot be an ascetic without Christianity.
>>2355698
buddhist are much better, they can literally subsist on crumbs and water while mummyfing themselves