Sorry if this been discussed to hell and back, I don't hang in here too often (otherwise I wouldn't be doing anything else).
I'd like to know about Jeanne d'Arc: did she actually lead the French army or was she just a mascot? I've been under the impression that she did in fact lead (and had a revolutionary "more guns" strategy), but some people claim she was just there for inspiration.
Also, best things to read about her? Just finished a book on Baldwin IV, I need a new thing to read and I'd like to remain in the Medieval period.
How does a girl born into a peasant family lead men into battle without any fencing practice or tactical knowledge? She seems more like a symbol than a credible commander.
The Duke of Alençon, who was present for most of her battles, also reaffirmed that she was a simple girl, but “in the conduct of war she was most skillful.”
He clarified the “conduct of war” to mean carrying a lance, directing armies, and placing artillery. The latter is something that he emphasized twice saying that she “acquitted herself magnificently.”
>>2354000
do you know my son with how little wisdom the world is governed?
>>2354000
>fencing practice or tactical knowledge
I remember -though I may be mistaken- that she didn't directly battle, and marshaled the troops with only a banner, as for the tactical side of things people have ascribed it to: a) luck b) boldness in attack the English c) Divine intervention
>>2354025
>He clarified the “conduct of war” to mean carrying a lance, directing armies, and placing artillery. The latter is something that he emphasized twice saying that she “acquitted herself magnificently.”
So why isn't she the patron saint of artillery instead of St Barbara? Barb has not blown a single guy up with a cannon.
She was important and probably was influential in the actual military campaigns.
The most active argument against her being a military commander was the fact that she was not present at the battle of Patay, but that can still be countered by the siege to the south where she would also still be needed.
>>2354053
St Barbara came way before Joan, who was only canonized in 1920.
From what i remember, her primary role was to defy the English and inspire and rally the french troops/commanders with the hope that the war could be won against the English and that to tell them of the legitimacy of the dauphin, knowledge which she supposedly acquired by divine intervention. I think he had been discredited or something? I can't quite remember it all, but that's the gist of it. By all means, correct me if I'm wrong.
>>2353982
I can tell you one thing for sure, she had a smoking hot bod. FUCK FRANCE
>>2353982
http://www.stjoan-center.com/military/stephenr.html
>>2353982
>tfw god literally sided with the french to btfo of anglos
glorious
>>2355800
>Her squire d’Aulon helped her into her armor every day that she was in the field and it was he who dressed her wounds. He testified that he often saw her naked legs and breasts and that". . . she was a young girl, beautiful and shapely. ..’ D’Alençon said ". .. I slept with Joan and the soldiers ‘on the straw,’ and sometimes I saw Joan get ready for the night, and sometimes I looked at her breasts, which were beautiful." Yet -- all of Joan’s men -- Jean de Metz, Bertrand de Poulengy, d’Alençon, d’Aulon, Thibault; the men who slept on the ground beside her and saw her in her lovely nakedness, were adamant that they never felt carnal lust for her. Thibault elaborated that while they sometimes felt a carnal urge for Joan, they "never dared give way to it.." They saw a saintly goodness in her and it was shame that prevented them from making advances on her. They felt an exalted pure love for her that they could not bear to sully with carnal words much less deeds.
OP here, I did what I should have done in the first place and searched desuarchive for Joan... Holy shit, people. I shouldn't be surprised, but I still was.
But then who is /his/ going to waifu if not Joan. Boudica?
>>2355814
Well, the English are the world's evilest nation after all.
>>2355826
>tfw to pure for anglo villainy