lTT the most Orwellian laws ever enacted by your country

>>2352733
what country is that?

Not even relevant. If you're already dead how does it affect you whether it was legal or not?

>>2353047
they will put you in prison if you survive

>>2353047
It's illegal because people die when they are killed.

>>2353047
If you commit suicide and are brought back or suck at killing yourself. You can be prosecuted!

>>2353058
>You can be prosecuted!
Can you argue that it was self defence.

>>2352733
You can go to jail in Britain for possessing the kind of porn the Tories don't like. Not just cp but stufc like spanking or bondage is banned too.

On a related note: due to the way computers work, if you view illegal content, you are also immediately guilty of owning and reproducing it too (because images you open get saved onto your hdd). So you can send someone to jail by tricking them to open a cp site.

>>2353071

>you can go to jail for having spanking/bondage porn

false

>you can send someone to jail by tricking them to open a cp site.

false, no judge or jury would convict

you don't understand anything about our legal system

Patriot act. Also Obama tried to make a law that would make news deemed false by the White House illegal.

>>2352854
The US

>>2353047
They posthumously sentence you to death

>>2353077
how long until trump enacts the same thing but on a mass scale with all organizations except fox and breitbart?

>>2353158
What makes you think that?

>>2353071
No? What the fuck? I've seen some pretty damn hardcore british porn

It is illegal to question the Holocaust. I wonder (((who))) was behind THAT law?

>>2353158
How long until Trump gasses the all the jews and builds the new world trade center from muslim bones?

>>2353614
European progressives who wanted to protect jews from future persecution.

>>2353061
good point

There's nothing wrong with laws against suicide except for how much self harm clinics cost, and you didn't even know about that.

Human life has value and humans will eventually be immortal. Deal with it deathcuck.

Name one good reason why suicide should be legal. "I am a gigantic faggot who doesn't want to live" is not a reason.

>>2353868
You are responsible for your own life.

Not the state.

>>2353617
By using extremely orwellian laws? Doesn't sound very progressive of them.

>>2353873
>You are responsible for your own life.
Then who is supposed to get rid of your corpse after you have taken your life?

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>>2353899

>>2352733
Creating a database to Document Undocumented Workers.

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>>2352733
>Sbain
>You can go to jail if you repeat a 40-year old joke on Twitter

>>2353624
This.

Most countries have laws against suicide.

>>2353611
The laws are still on the books, and while not usually enforced, they sometimes are. Someone was taken to court for possessing bondage porn featuring breast damage.

>>2354110
It is even illegal to exist for you.

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>>2353047
I heard that the person's family is penalized by not receiving any life insurance or inheritance. Don't quote me on it, though.

>>2353877
>Doesn't sound very progressive of them.

Did you just now learn that most 'progressives' are complete hypocrites?

>>2353567
The things Trump has said.

>>2353915
Kek

>>2353868

>"I am a gigantic faggot who doesn't want to live" is not a reason.

Why not? Why is it the state's place to arbitrate for you whether or not you're a gigantic faggot who doesn't want to live?

>>2352733
Cartoon loli porn is illegal.

>>2353047
You're destroying guvment property!

>>2353877
Why is it that neo-nazis and wannabe fascists always play the oppression card?

>>2354497
This as fuck.

>>2352733
You need to give the government money and papers when you get a new car.

>>2354497
Because neonazis, fascists and alt-rightists are hypocrites.

>>2354417
nice one

>>2352733
In Germany it's illegal to claim most of the refugees are actually economic migrants. This is considered hate speech, although there isn't even a law specifying what hate speech is supposed to be.

>>2354984
This is bullshit.

>>2354297
suicide doesn't effect inheritance but its a standard part of any life insurance contract that if you kill yourself its void, they also refuse to pay out if the person who had the policy was murdered by a person seeking to collect.

It's like burning down your own house to collect the insurance on it.

>>2354110
translate this to american please

>>2354984
that sounds like bullshit, do you have a source on that?

>>2352733
You are literally an idiot. Suicide is illegal for two reasons:

1. To discourage people from doing it.
2. So that the state/police can legally intervene to try and prevent it.

It has NOTHING to do with punishment. People who sucessfully commit suicide aren't even charged with a crime. People who attempt and fail are almost NEVER jailed or even put on trial.

Source: https://www.quora.com/Why-is-committing-suicide-illegal-1

>>2354297
This is entirely false

>>2355020
No. After a certain period of time (usually about 2 years), most life insurance companies usually will cover suicide if there is evidence that it was caused by mental illness and not intentionally done to collect the insurance.

Source: http://www.insuranceclarity.com/life/life-insurance-suicide-clause

Literally all it takes is a fucking google search, I'm so sick of this board.

You're required to carry your ID card all the time when you're outside.

>>2355106
>almost

>>2355126
Random fringe cases where the person is found guilty of trying to harm others by commiting suicide or is intentionally doing it for the inusrance money (insurance fraud). The state would never put someone on trial if tests are done and the attempt is found to be the result of a mental illness.

And by "harming others" I mean trying to take others with him or attempting suicide by trying to force others to murder him.

>>2352733
It was explained to me at some point that the primary reason for this law is to have a basis on which to involve both emergency services AND police resources if there is a report that someone is trying to kill themselves, as well as have a warrant to search your property, etc.

I don't know how true that is, but that's what I thought it was intended for.

>>2355189
This is true, see my post here >>2355106

The law isn't some sort of "1984" totalitarian attempt to control the people. It literally exists to prevent suicide and so the state can help people with mental illnesses and their families recover.

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>>2352733
>it is illegal to kill another person

>>2353071
> (because images you open get saved onto your hdd)
What the fuck why

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>>2354858
>>2354953

>>2354497
>>2354858
>>2354861
Simply pointing out that you can't deny the holocaust or be thrown in jail certainly seems to ruffle your feathers

>>2355106
>1. To discourage people from doing it.
While everything else you've said is valid, I fail to see the reasoning here.
> Oh boy I would like to shoot myself in the head, but I would break the law if I do so.

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>>2352733
>>2352854
>>2353106

It's not illegal to kill yourself in the US. It's treated as a mental health issue and you're likely to get committed if someone else notices you trying to kill yourself unsuccessfully, but there's no law against it.

>>2355106

Which US law are you talking about?

>>2355278
Believe it or not, things being illegal actually does discourage people from doing them.

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>>2353049
>>2352733
No, they won't put you in prison if you survive.

It's illegal so they can remove your rights without having to go through the rigmarole of declaring you a non-competent, and thus fucking you for life, and instead can just slap you with a 51/50 - which isn't, technically, even a criminal offense.

They will probably toss you into holding until they can find a mental institution that can take you, but that's about it.

Granted, if you end up in a state mental institution, depending on the state, you might wish they dropped you in prison instead.

t. worked intake at a mental hospital for 5000 hours.


...On the other hand, several states and municipalities in the US have laws against walking on grass.

>>2354344
That's not Orwellian, that's just civilized.

UK.

"Racially aggravated public order offenses".

Aka arresting people for saying mean shit on twitter.

>>2352733
Wanting to kill yourself is a sign of psychological disease. It should be treated. Furthermore people susceptible to sudden bouts of depression (the kind of people who commit suicide) are perfectly happy functional people a lot of the time and of those who have attempted suicide in the past they are all thankful someone saved them.

>>2355303
When it comes to extreme acts such as suicide or murder, no, not really.

I mean speeding, yes - but if you're so upset you're ready to off someone or yourself? Potential legal consequences rarely come to mind.

...Save, in the case of murder, when it comes to the process of not getting caught, but given the potential for retribution, that'd be a thing whether there was a law involved or not.

>>2355351

Which law are you talking about?

http://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?handle=hein.journals/wasbur6&div=41&id=&page=

>It should be emphasized that suicide is not against the law in most parts of the United States of America.

>>2355275
how could you possibly deny that it happened given the overwhelming primary sources to the contrary?

>>2355397
Yes really. "Laws don't deter crime" is just something libertarians say to try and convince you that laws are pointless or bad. But its all rhetoric, don't listen to them.

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>>2353147
>tfw it was a thing

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>>2355364
>thoughtcrime isn't orwellian

>>2355548
Anime in general should be illegal tbqh

>>2353061
Only if schizophrenia/multiple personality disorder was diagnosed on said persons!

Otherwise have fun convincing a judge/jury to accept that as a definite cause of said violent act, on said persons.

All drug and food prohibition laws.

>>2353915
Still, people must be paid to do this. Your estate or family will pay for these things, if you decide to commit suicide. I think the keyword here is commit.

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>>2354337
Because, there has to be an investigation of your death. So the state can verify if you were murdered or in fact did commit suicide. Coroners,police,state workers all need to be paid in order for these things to happen. Not to mention bills you haven't paid and fees for burial/cremation.

You are a number, that number makes money for the state through taxes. The state needs to rectify this situation andake money off of you. Not to mention emotional turmoil that could effect loved ones and possibly cause the state more involvment.

>>2353868

No, that's not how it works. The burden is on you to come up with a reason why the state should start prohibiting something. As it stands today, suicide isn't against the law in most of the US so the majority of the posts in this thread are uninformed garbage.

>>2355548
It's no different from suicide being "illegal".
Cartoon child pornography is one of the clearest indicators of incredibly serious mental health problems which, if left untreated, will result in wider problems both for the budding pedophile and any nearby 3D children.
Making it illegal and thereby allowing the authorities to intervene is the humane thing to do.

>>2353616
>gasses all the Jews
Probably never, seeing as he might be the most pro-Israel president in history.

>>2355643

It'll be easier for him to gas them all if he gets them into one concentration country first.

>>2355593

Why would you poison consumers? Your reputation would tank and that's what keeps companies alive.

That being said, the AnCap memes are actually funny.

>>2355676

The poisoner in that meme scenario didn't want to keep a company alive, he just wanted to poison a town once and then sell them an antidote at 400% profit margin. Anyone who only wants to make a large profit once would have no incentive to preserve reputation. You see this a lot in practice with internet recreational drug vendors, it's called an exit scam, where they're going to abandon the business anyway so they take all the money of pending orders and don't fulfill them.

>>2355455
I didn't say laws don't deter crime.

But they do nothing to deter insanity.

I mean, if someone is earnestly trying to off themselves, do you really think, even for a moment, the law comes into it? Waddya gonna do, kill them?

I suppose it makes it less likely it'll be used as an attention grabbing tactic, but all suppressing that does is mask the underlying problem.

And while it may discourage premeditated murder - the very existence of the law enforcement mechanism making it more difficult to get away with - it does nothing to prevent murders of passion.

>>2353611
Gonna need some proof Anon

>>2353077
M8 you're a bit outdated, http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-24/obama-signs-countering-disinformation-and-propaganda-act-law

>>2354984
T./pol/ack whose never looked at German law or set foot in Germany.

>>2355588
What do you fucking hand the garbage man a check each week when they reach your house?
>pay for the month
>stand where you put your garbage cans
>kill self
>garbage man disposes of you with the rest of the trash

>>2355676
I see so many of you retards walking around so Il give you an example. Even if theres only one company that made shitty produce that was infected, sure their reputation will suffer but at the end of the day 5K people still died of disease from their food. Kys libtard.

>>2352733
In Canada a bill was passed that posits that a statement of truth can be hate speech if the right people dislike it.

>>2355630
Good thing it's completely legal in the west barring some shitholes like the UK.

>>2353899
There are conflicting accounts of Diogenes's death. He is alleged variously to have held his breath; to have become ill from eating raw octopus;[33] or to have suffered an infected dog bite.[34] When asked how he wished to be buried, he left instructions to be thrown outside the city wall so wild animals could feast on his body. When asked if he minded this, he said, "Not at all, as long as you provide me with a stick to chase the creatures away!" When asked how he could use the stick since he would lack awareness, he replied "If I lack awareness, then why should I care what happens to me when I am dead?"

Really gets the neurons firing

>>2352733
>>it is illegal to kill yourself
its a crime to destroy federal property.

>>2354344
Wait what.
Where?

>>2353076
I'm not that guy but it is true.

1-There was a case of a guy getting banned over toddlercon doujinshi.

2-There was a case of a guy who had cp found, but it wasn't saved, it was found cached in the ram, or something like that. They guy nearly went to prison until the defense explained to the judge how images auto-save themselves on the computer once viewed and the judge dismissed the case right there. It is not hard to imagine that maybe some poor idiot went trough the same and wasn't so lucky to get the judge to dismiss.

>>2353614
What is with the (((xxx))) stuff I'm seeing lately? Guessing they're "obvious sarcasm indicators" for (((extra stupid people))), because "regular quotes" aren't enough anymore?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfTD0BQRzsk

>>2354110
Sheeeeeeet nigga

>>2355052
To "English", americuck. The US doesn't even have an official body that regulates language. "Ayy lmao" and "maymay" are as valid as the word "house" in your meme language.

It says:
"The prosecutor is asking for 2 years and 6 months in jail, plus 3 years of probation for making jokes about Carrero Blanco. Just that, jokes about a dictator."

>>2355275
>deny that the an ideology that actively genocided people despite primary sources.
>support an ideology that has historically overthrown the german state
>"Abloo bloo, why am I being persecuted.

>>2357226
I've understood it as a reddit thing.

>>2357226
It's used when it's about Jews

>>2352733
The reason why it is illegal to kill yourself is so that they can detain you if you attempt to kill yourself. For an attempt of something to be illegal, the act itself must be too. It has been proven that if they are able to keep someone from killing themselves the first time, a second time generally does not happen.

>>2357226
it is a browser extension named coincidence detector. look it up

>>2357226
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_parentheses

>>2352733
People of our nation can do mass-meeting only if municipality allow it

>>2357291
This makes sense.
If suicide is legal do cops still have the right to break into your home without a warrant to prevent you from killing yourself?

>>2355364
>That's not Orwellian, that's just civilized.

Though I find CP disgusting the thought that fiction is considered a crime is dangerous.

>>2355020
Thanks for clearing that up. I knew I wasn't 100% right.

>>2355275
That's not actually it. Also, I support the legal right to deny the Holocaust because it's dumb to throw people in jail for thinking things. That being said, Holocaust deniers are retarded.

>Malaysia
>Sedition Act 1948
>You said something bad about His Eminence The Prime Minister of Malaysia? Are you trying to rile up the peasents and create an uprising?! Indefinite jailtime while the government seizes ALL of your assets!

>>2355630
I bet it means that if you kill people in GTA you're likely to kill in real life too

Also better report all those who installed the "killable children" mod in Skyrim
I fear they may kill the first real life kid who'll speak to them disrespectfully

>>2358175
GTA and Skyrim is merely harmless escapism. Seeking out anime child pornography is more akin to torturing and mutilating animals, not only in its depravity but also as an indicator of imminent more serious criminal behavior.

>>2357263
That's what I thought too, I guess we were wrong.

>>2357286
>>2357350
>>2357359
Thank you.

>>2358210
>Seeking out anime child pornography is more akin to torturing and mutilating animals, not only in its depravity but also as an indicator of imminent more serious criminal behavior.

Making posts like this is a clear indicator of psychotic behavior and risk of imminent criminal behavior, and it is much like killing or torturing small animals.

See? I can make random claims of causation too!

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>>2353614
>>2353877
>>2355275

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>>2355630
>Violent video games are one of the clearest indicators of incredibly serious mental health problems which, if left untreated, will result in wider problems both for the budding shooter and any nearby people.
>Making it illegal and thereby allowing the authorities to intervene is the humane thing to do.

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>>2354999
>>2355059
>>2357017
You're welcome.

http://www.netz-gegen-nazis.de/artikel/endlich-immer-mehr-saftige-strafen-f%C3%BCr-hate-speech-im-internet-10510

>>2358693
You can ban video games as long as you also ban all anime. That kind of sick filth has no place in society.

>>2357234
Francisco Franco joke?

>>2352733
>It is illegal to question the Holocaust. I wonder (((who))) was behind THAT law?

The Allied powers who wanted to make sure that citizens realized that they were complicit in the crimes of their government through tacit support

Either that or, by your own ideology, you are constantly beaten by who you call subhumans. Not very promising if you ask me.

>>2358800
That guy lost his job, which was a (disgusting) decision of his employer because he didn't like it, not because it was a crime.

>>2358959
But the "public" as well as the Minister of Justice are putting pressure on enterprises to persecute hate crimes. It comes down to as the same as an institutionalized persecution of thought crimes.

>>2359098
>hate crimes
*hate speech

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>>2359103
Up until last year, forced castration

>>2359103
>>2359153
Didn't mean to quote you on that one

>>2352733
Patriot act

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>>2359153
Wait what.

>>2355240
It's called an internet cache.

I suppose you could make a RAM drive and redirect your cache there (hell, it'd even make your browser a bit faster, provided you have the memory to spare), but those images gotta go somewhere.

>>2355412
https://definitions.uslegal.com/d/dangerous-to-self-or-others/

Not all laws are criminal laws.

>>2357156
It's basically illegal to offender people in Australia.

Granted, a judge has to deem it a "serious" offense, but still - that's just begging for abuse.

Then there's shit like this:
http://www.crschools.net/blog/14-weird-and-unusual-criminal-sentences/

>>2357174
It's actually illegal in the US, and people have gone to prison for it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_pornography_laws_in_the_United_States#1466A_-_Obscene_visual_representations_of_the_sexual_abuse_of_children

Supreme court initially said "fuck no", but Bush turned around and setup the CPA to bypass them.

Because, you know, all those traumatized cartoon waifus.

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>>2358693
>>2358845
I wouldn't be surprised if you couldn't make a similar chart for rates of pedophelia vs. distribution of loli for similar reasons though.

>>2357225
>until the defense explained to the judge how images auto-save themselves on the computer once viewed
it sounds okay because it all worked out. But then you realise that the judge actually needed basic internet tech explained to him.

It is genuinely scary how ignorant and detached from the modern world a lot of judges are. Not to mention downright stupid. That's the problem with a system where the only criteria for being a judge is knowledge of the law (and not, for example, the ability to function as a normal human being in the 21st century, or make basic logical deductions).

>>2359666
Everytime this discussion pops up in loli threads yanks always say that no one actually got convicted because of it, the ones that did usually had the real deal as well.

>>2360009
Doesn't change the fact that it's illegal, and while it's rare, people have been at least dragged to court over it, and nothing else.

>>2359634

That's not only not a criminal law, it's not a law at all. You just linked to a definition of a legal phrase. For criminal law or any sort of law, the vast majority of the US does not have any against suicide. No federal laws against it and only a handful of states with laws against it.

>>2360048
It's a legal status that can be applied to you on the fly in most states, if you are found attempting to commit suicide, that temporarily removes your rights as a citizen. It is thus a law that pertains to suicide, even if it isn't a criminal law.

Most nations have something similar, for good reason.

>>2360109

>It is thus a law

That's not a law. A law is something you can actually reference in a state constitution and statutes registry (or federal or municipal equivalent).

There are specific involuntary commitment laws that vary from state to state, but those aren't laws against suicide, they're laws outlining how you can be involuntarily committed if you have a mental health problem, with suicidal behavior happening to be a subset of what's considered mental health problems.

Alien and Sedition Acts

Everything from Indian Removal to the Patriot Act was effectively made legal by those laws.

>>2355225
>exists to prevent suicide
>not a totalitarian attempt to control people
Pick one.

>>2360844
Stop interpreting the world like a Marxist.

>>2358175
>jerk off to depictions of children.
>This somehow does not indicate you are attracted to children.
Video game violence is nothing like the real thing, and the gap between fighting people in a video game and killing someone in real life is far different to moving between fapping to cartoon children and fapping to real ones.

>>2360915
Not him, but either way it's a bullshit comparison because nobody is harmed.

Children are harmed in the production of CP, and the state has a responsibility to do something about.

But some guy sitting alone in his room bothering no one jerking off to questionable cartoons? Not so much.

>>2360925
Most pedophiles start with anime loli and then graduate to actual children once the cartoon ones stop having an effect. You can't say the same about video game violence. Even Jimmy Saville was into it, which seems otherwise unlikely based on his cultural background.

>>2354497
For personal gain.
Lying to the untermensch to seize control is a large part of the ideology.

>>2362028
Given that pedophelia predates anime, that's kind of a stretch of a correlation.

Though it does say something about a society, when it has little problem with children committing virtual murder, yet outlaws adults having virtual taboo sexual fantasies.

>>2362028

Are you trolling or retarded?

>people will move on from virtual porn to real porn
>but people will not move on from virtual violence to real violence

>>2352733
In Canada there is a proposal to let universities throw out people who don't share their ethics, resulting in someone who may e fired for using he/she cause it offends

>>2357252
>Can deny that millions of people died during the chinese industrialization
>Can deny that millions of people died during the numerous soviet purges
>Can't deny or question whether millions of jews died during the holocaust

Explain this.

>>2353567
>Any negative polls are fake news, just like the CNN, ABC, NBC polls in the election.

>>2362143
Pedophilia may predate anime, but it was very much a minority pursuit in the West until anime became part of our cultural consciousness. Think about how many pedophile scandals there have been in the last decade and compare that with how many there were in the 1950s.

>>2362147
There are more violent video games now than there were twenty years ago yet violent crime has fallen. The reverse is the case for anime and pedophilia-related convictions. You can argue muh correlation isn't causation all you want, but the fact is that a sizeable majority of convicted pedophiles in the West developed an interest in anime shortly before they began committing their crimes.

>>2362305
Do you realise trump has just hijacked the term "fake news" because any positive coverage of him was being labelled that way?

>>2362378
>and compare that with how many there were in the 1950s.

Just as many if not more. Don't underestimate the Internet's ability to freely disseminate information from all corners of the globe.

>>2362456
"Information" like anime loli porn yes, but I wouldn't advocate that we ban the Internet altogether because that would be a case of throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

>>2358800
Can someone kindly translate?

>>2362378
>The reverse is the case for anime and pedophilia-related convictions.

[citation needed]

>>2355291
>you'll likely be commited
>it's not illegal

God I hate American statist
>It's not illegal to not have healthcare with Obamacare!
>you just get fined!

Jesus Christ nobody hates freedom more than the average American

>>2355414
I don't deny it
I question the official story

if I was in Germany I could be in prison for that

>>2355630
throwing Pedos in jail does not treat mental illness

>>2359238
Norway

>>2363100
Of course not but neither does letting their fetish blossom and escalate the way porn does.

>>2363225
>letting their fetish blossom and escalate the way porn does.
there is literally no evidence for that

there is an equal amount of evidence to suggest that letting pedos get off to lolis and CP prevents them from acting out on real children

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>>2352733
my country forbids
-a few aggregates of atom
-a few aggregates of pixels

>>2362378
Oh my god, I bet you're one of those faggots that think smoking weed will make you shoot heroin later on or some shit, jesus.

Anyway, let's say that your outlandish claim is entirely correct, so fucking what?

You do know why actual CP is outlawed? The rationale is that by restricting ownership you discourage the production of it. The fact that the person is a pedophile is besides the point, pedos don't get jailed because they're pedos, they get jailed because they molested a child or were in possession of CP. That's why criminalizing fucking drawings is completely retarded.

>>2355351
>It's illegal
It's not illegal to attempt suicide in the US (in general).
>and instead can just slap you with a 51/50 - which isn't, technically, even a criminal offense.
It isn't at all a criminal offense. It's a request for you to be put under observation for a while (usually 72 hours). If you attempted suicide, generally they'll try to put you on medications. If you have a clear mental state (i.e., no psychosis or serious underlying disorder) they'll let you go after a few days. 5150 is only a thing in California, but I'm pretty sure all states have a similar hold.


>They will probably toss you into holding until they can find a mental institution that can take you, but that's about it.
Not true. With involuntary holds they usually just let you go, usually with a doggie bag full of SSRIs.

>Granted, if you end up in a state mental institution, depending on the state, you might wish they dropped you in prison instead.
True

>t. worked intake at a mental hospital for 5000 hours.
Doubtful, although considering how utter shit non-professional mental hospital staff are, you might have been.

>>2363095
>I don't deny it
>I just put almost every topic on it to unnecessary scrutiny, promoting the idea that da jooz lied about the Holocaust and therefore deserve another
>but hey, I'm Just Asking Questions so I'm not in the wrong!

Neo-nazis get weirdly defensive when you call them out on trying to push their agenda. [spoiler]Almost like Jews.[/spoiler]

>>2363228
Anecdotal evidence but whenever i watch a lot of porn i inevitably start sliding into more and more hardcore stuff. If something is satisfying then it's only going to last for a little while until it becomes boring and i want something more intense/weird.
I've seen lots of people here say the same thing.

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> The government can tax you
> The government exists
> We are not ruled by a natural elite in a decentralized, stateless feudal aristocracy

>>2363311
You're a retard. He's saying that he doesn't deny the holocaust happened, he just denies the way it happened.
(Probably things like intent, numbers of dead, cause of death) as a guess.
Not an intellectually dishonest statement at all.

>>2363311
>unnecessary scrutiny
A true intellectual powerhouse is in the thread.

>>2363343
>feudal aristocracy
You mean the system where your government taxes you?

>>2363311
>>but hey, I'm Just Asking Questions so I'm not in the wrong!
literally, unironically, permanently YES

any other answer is objectively unethical

>>2363311
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxbV3RsyQwI

>>2363343
>natural elite
>natural
>elite
???

>>2363350
Bullshit. Absolute bullshit.

>>2363483
Egalitarianism is a revolt against nature mate.

>>2363488
what's bullshit?
I'm the guy who he's defending. That's exactly what I meant.

I know that the holocaust happened and that it mainly targeted jews, but 6 millions Jews were not killed by gas chambers in death camps in Poland

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>>2355364
Cartoon loli porn is not even porn; it's a philosophy of self individuation from the pervasive Other.

>>2363498
I'm not the retard you're arguing with, just want to ask a question: Do you believe that extermination of Jews was a nazi goal or were the Jews that dies a result of starvation and Typhus as opposed to purposeful killing?

>>2363514
>Do you believe that extermination of Jews was a nazi goal
yes this is documented fact
>the Jews that dies a result of starvation and Typhus
these statements don't contradict eachother; a very, very significant portion of Jews died from this due to poor treatment because the Nazis treated them like animals

almost as many people in Eastern Europe died of starvation as war between 1930 and 1945

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>>2352733
the 1996 NFA of Australia was the best thing to happen to this nation.

>there are people on this board RIGHT NOW who think that John Howard's gun laws were a bad idea

Sickening to be honest, action needed to be taken against the cuck cannon killings.

>>2363607
> If I say cuck, maybe they wont call me a cuck when i talk like a cuck

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>>2363085

I'm not a statist, I just find it annoying how so many people keep assuming suicide is illegal in the US when it isn't.

Is believing goverment agents are watching your thoughts through an implant in your brain that was installed while you were at the dentist last month illegal? No, there are no laws against believing that. But you'll still potentially end up in a psychiatric hospital if you go around behaving as though that scenario is true. Because it's a mental health issue, not because there's a law against it. The two aren't the same thing. It's not illegal to be mentally ill, but you might be forced into things you don't consent to on the basis of you're being mentally ill.

>>2363707
t.average cuck cannon owner

>>2362238
Eh, universities have been doing that since, well, there've been universities. These days that's called violation of institutional standards.

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>>2362378
Rates were actually higher in the 1930's - though probably fueled by mafia human trafficking.

>>2363247
>You do know why actual CP is outlawed? The rationale is that by restricting ownership you discourage the production of it.
Well any economist or historian will tell you quite the opposite is true. (See the above mafia and how it was fueled by prohibition.)

The rationale behind CP being illegal is because a child is harmed in the production of said.

The only person harmed in the production of anime are some underpaid animators in Thailand.

A potential child molestor may gravitate towards anime, but all making it illegal does is remove an early warning flag.

Meanwhile, if look at the nations with the top pedophelia rates in the world, the United States, Australia, and the UK are all in the top five, while Japan doesn't even rank in the top 30.

At that point, it's entirely "muh feels".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VwpwP_fIqY

>>2363299
>They will probably toss you into holding until they can find a mental institution that can take you, but that's about it.
>Not true. With involuntary holds they usually just let you go, usually with a doggie bag full of SSRIs.
No, save in a few big cities with very well funded and coordinated psychiatric facilities, the cops almost always end up putting you in holding first (and even there, on a busy day). It takes some time to arrange for placement. They can't hold for more than 24 hours without charging you with something though (well, unless you're Arab).

Once at the institution, they will generally not hold you for more than three days, and yeah, then tend to send you home with some SSRI's - but they can decide to hold you up for a week, before they gotta start looking into long term, at which point, you either gotta be declared non-competent or sign yourself up for it. At the place I worked at, I felt a bit dubious about how we got our long term patients, as they would have our more young and attractive psychologists practically seduce them into it.

On the other hand, I seemed slightly less likely to see the long term patients in intake again.

>>2355382

Happened litterally today

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-38974535

>>2364661
I remember once reading you had some odd law in the UK (and some other common law nations) where the judge could make up wildly nonsensical sentences. I remember someone assembled a list of lol worthy examples, but I can't recall what the procedure was called, and thus my Google-fu is failing me.

Not that local judges in the rural US don't sometimes seem to be able to pull similar things.

>>2358140

>1948

You mean right around the time literal communist terrorists were murdering people en masse?

>>2362239
Civilization-wide trauma at the first industrial, planned, bureaucratic extermination of millions of people (which happened to be based on religion) ?

The entire concept of "hate-crime".
It's one more step from being an allegory for thought-crime.

The Patriot Act, NSA, Prism: all that bullshit the American Government shat out. Turns countries into surveillance states.

Modern mainstream Western media is a propaganda machine; an allegory for the ministry of truth. The idea of "Fake News" propagates this.

Young people are indoctrinated, radicalized and turned into nihilistic authoritarian communists through University; an allegory for the youth league.

If you're Turkish you should know that Erdogan is changing the school system in order to manipulate the past.