Iraq-Iran War

>>2333758
That war showed just how retarded Arabs are. Not only did Iraq have the support of the world, yes the world (USA, NATO, and even Russia), they were faced against a country who just got out of a bloody revolution with zero organization and equipment.

How stupid do you have to be to miss an empty net?


This level of incompetence is unmatched.

Perhaps maybe now by Saudi Arabia who is currently getting their shit kicked in by a bunch of sandel wearing Yemenis using clogged up soviet AK's.

I kind of want to see where Trump goes with ME policy. Because if it is truly isolationist, there will be no such thing as Arab by the time the Iranians and Israelis are finished.

>>2333758
>metal
>>>/reddit/

>>2333758
>lose to a bunch of persian boys

arabs topkek

>>2333845
>>2333879
t. Reza Kebabrani

>extensive us of chem weapons
>kamikaze heli attacks and heli on heli battles
>guys throwing themselves on barbed wire to make passage for soldiers behind them
>motorcycle cavalery
>swamp roads made out of corpses and sand
>Iranians during their human wave attacks would have guys dressed as Husayn ibn Ali riding on horseback along the attackers, making them believe they were re-living the battle of Karbala
fucking crazy m8
>>2333845
>where Trump goes with ME policy
Fight for Israel, fuck with Iran and act like retard.
Yemen already banned US military operations in response to that botched raid.
He's not isolationist, he's a conman.

>>2333928
What's a good book about this war?

>>2333758
This was THE craziest war since Nam. We won't see a war like this again in a while.

>>2334751
Second Congo War

>>2333845
>with zero organization and equipment

The traitor Reagan and Bush the 1st were giving them arms and red pilled Iraq from the west.

>>2333845
>no such thing as arab by the time...
We can only hope so.

>>2334743

The Osprey one if you can find it

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>>2333845
It will happen regardless, I am guessing islam will collapse the moment Sunni's loose the wahhabist support from the Saudis, the oil wells are near dry, crashing prices and a bad war in Yemen for the wahhabis is signalling a wider instability in the kingdom, the Shia have been on the rise since the events of 2015, Syrian Government resurgence in the Syrian Civil War, Iraq wholeheartedly allowing Iranian combat troops to participate in the fight against ISIS. In yemen the highly advanced and equipped Houthi Shias are decimating Saudi attempts to restore control, though they have regained some semblance after 2 years with a foothold in Sadaa.

Either way the Houthis arent going anywhere, they will just try again in 10 years. China and Russia are actively against the wahhabis and are throwing their lot with the Shias.

Culturally Shias are way more 'liberal' if that can be applied and are more easily accepting of unorthodox behavior and as such the best exit plan for the world to rid itself of muslims. Just look at Iran, modernization has led to relaxation of a lot of the laws regarding strict islamic codes, most of the 'anti-revolutionary' actions of the youth in Iran is basically old morons from the 70's complaining, there was a march a couple of months back asking for women to cover themselves, almost all the people marching were over 50. They have underground party scene and raves and shit, no other Arab countries have that save the ones with Shias or a lot of westerners.

So hopefully, wahhabis get ousted by the Shias and the shia will exhaust themselves and the faith will crumble. Then the true reckoning will begin as the muslim identity is ground into the dirt.

>>2334857
>I am guessing islam will collapse the moment Sunni's loose the wahhabist support
IN ME you mean, the largest Muslim population of in the world are located in Indonesia and they don't seem to be crumbling

>>2334857
>the oil wells are near dry.
No. The oil wells are not as profitable because they are pumping out more sour crude. Blame piss poor saudi exploration.

>>2333758
rip uncle alireza

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>>2333845
Urgh, I fucking know right. Iraq had access to far more equipment, replacements and spare parts over the war (after iran burned through what the Americans had given the Shah), American aircraft literally bombing Iranian oil wells and ships, Americans shooting down a passenger plane, access to chemical weapons and more.

Who were the only countries to exclusively help iran? North Korea and Syria.

To think 3 years later people would crapping on about Saddam's million man battle hardened army. A five year old could've won Desert Storm.

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>>2334887
Islam in general is dependant on ME to dictate to them how it is followed, Wahhabis dying will dry up the primary source of cash for the madrassas that maintain wahhabist thought, this vaccum will be filled by Shias or disaffected muslims reverting. Sunnis will more than likely implode or atleast loose a LOT of their strength soon, modernism will crush it under its relentless advance.

>>2334762
What kind of crazy shit happened there except rapes?

>>2334953
cannibalism

>>2334970
Well shit.
>"We hear reports of [enemy] commanders feeding on sexual organs of pygmies, apparently believing this would give them strength," he said.
>unironically eating dicks

>>2334953
Cutting children and then rubbing cocaine into the wounds

>>2333758
Angolan Civil War

Liberian Civil War

>>2333910
Truth hurts?

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>>2334981
Oh well, I wanted to skip lunch break today anyway.

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>>2333758
>Was there modern war more metal than Iraq-Iran?

It is my belief that there wasn't.

>pic rel, after the capture of the city of Khorramshahr, the Iraqis placed overturned cars in the fields outside the city to prevent an Iranian airborne assault.

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>>2335186
Also if someone might identify who the blue guys are? Are they Basiji?

>>2335205
Car mechanics.

>>2335190
Whats wrong with these cars?

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>>2335241
As I wrote in the first post of the pic dump, Khorramshahr is home to a major international port, and when Saddam’s forces captured the city in the Iran-Iraq war, they took leftover car shipments and planted them in the ground to serve as a anti-paratrooper emplacements. Some of them are still preserved in the city.

>>2335142
what was this meant to do?

make it harder to shoot cars from the air? seems like a lot of effort. and it would take you hours before you could un-dig the cars and use them again

>>2335295
Maybe the idea was to reduce the amount of open ground near the city for the paratroopers to land in? I'm sure its not safe to try and parachute into what's essentially a junk yard.

I don't know for sure though. I can't find anything online. Can anyone confirm?

>>2334857
>Shia are more liberal
Twelver Shia aren't in any way Liberal
Look up the Twelver concept of Imamate

Didn't Iraq have American military advisors? Didn't any of them ever tell them they were doing a shit job?

>>2335852
They were probably throwing up the horns and blaring heavy metal all day.

>>2333758
>marsh boats
?

I don't understand how the sideways cars are supposed to hinder airborne.

>>2336041
Helicopters can't land on the ground and drop off troops.
Vietnamese did this with fire hardened bamboo sticks

>>2336060
Ohh, that makes sense. I was thinking paratroopers

>>2333928
>Iranians during their human wave attacks would have guys dressed as Husayn ibn Ali riding on horseback along the attackers, making them believe they were re-living the battle of Karbala
Goddamn now ain't that motivational

Millenarianist culture is a helluva drug

>>2336019
Hovercraft?

Wow, no wonder you Americans couldn't beat these guys.

"Now when the unclean spirit goes out of a man, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, and does not find it.

>>2335386
Qaramatian twelvers attacked, pillaged and sacked Kaaba in the 10th Century under al janabi. They hate sunnis and are late concerts who are more likely to revert given their religious concepts are followed by a few

>>2333845

>sandel wearing Yemenis using clogged up soviet AK's

Yemen is the most heavily armed country in the world except for the US

you wouldn't believe the shit floating around arms markets in houthi territory

>>2334857
>Culturally Shias are way more 'liberal'

When will this meme finally die?

>>2336222

when they start cutting people's heads off for drawing the prophet instead of selling pictures of him as a lucky charm

>>2335295

It's similar to the way bears stand up to make themselves look taller. It's a primitive form of intimidation.

>>2336313
Read
>>2336060

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>>2336324

I can't read, I'm a bear.

>>2335295
>>2335346

The cars were there to prevent fast air assault from helicopters, not just paratroopers.

Nazis did something similar in france by uprooting telephone poles and flooding fields to take care of gliders and paratroops, respectively.

>>2336333
Intimidating? Or looking for honey? Hard to say.

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>>2334892
Libyan oil is da shit tho. Look how fast gas prices rose during the Libyan civil war.

>>2333758
My dad fought in this war and my cousin was captured. Since he's Christian, he was tortured by the Iranians and they tried to force him to convert to Islam. Fuck Iranian scumbags, they're worse than Jews, I hope Trump nukes them.

>>2335003
pussy, you're on 4chan and you can't handle fucking text describing gore. Fuck off normie

>>2334981
Fucking Belgians are the most evil race I swear

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>>2333758
Don't care if anyone believes me but my dad told me this about the war. It's weird seeing it here, he rarely talks about the war. Most of the times I have to ask after a few wiskeys. I never knew if it was true or not it seemed so unreal. He got wounded the day before and his whole battalion got zapped. He met my mom in a bom shelter in Tehran on his leave from this, so in a weird way this event put me on this earth and 28years later some other dude posts this on a anonymous image board. This is weird

>>2337340
I wonder if our parents ever fought each other in the field of battle. Was he at Mehran by any chance?

>>2337157
>invade someones country
>get butthurt when they facefuck you

Pathetic stupid cuck

>>2336192
Source on this?

>>2337500
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country#List_of_countries_by_estimated_number_of_guns_per_capita

Looks like they're actually third.

>>2337561

SERBIA STRONG

>>2337561
>countries with most guns are shitholes
Hmm...

>>2337769
Are they shitholes because they have the most guns or do they have to have guns because they live in shitholes?

>>2337800
THE question of the millennia desu

>>2333845
>I kind of want to see where Trump goes with ME policy. Because if it is truly isolationist, there will be no such thing as Arab by the time the Iranians and Israelis are finished.

Considering he's already restarting the pissing match with Iran I doubt it.

Trump can't be truly isolationist because he's too thin skinned to turn down even the most obscure challenge.

>>2337340
My uncle was in this war too. He drove food and ammunition to the front lines and almost died in a bomb attack

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>>2334953
>>2334981

No, the Second /k/ongo War was top tier operator stuff.

African rapes n shieeet belongs to western africa shitholes like sierra leone and liberia

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>>2333928
>unironcally believing in propaganda
Trump never ran on an "isolationist" campaign. He ran on a campaign to stop needless foreign interventionism and nation building, yes, but not as if he was going to abandon the entire American presence in the Middle East.

Trump also never hid the fact that he is a Zionist. He actually was proud about. Still, his commitment to look at the Israeli-Palestinian conflict neutral is a breath of freash air.

>>2333845
Donald Trump is all over Israel's dick though

>>2337419
>"WE WUZ PERSIANS!!"
>claims Arab Ahwaz as part of their territory

Ahwaz is Arab, you can't claim to be Persian then claim an Arab country is part of your land

>>2334939
>Sunnis will more than likely implode or atleast loose a LOT of their strength soon,

Dude, the fucking Shia were just as bad as the fucking Sunni's in Iraq.

Granted, I agree about the Wahabists being straight up cancer, but don't think for a minute the fucking Shia will be much better than their sunni counterparts.

A lot of the way they "practice" their shit is cultural, which means that crazy sandniggers will be crazy sandniggers regardless of their respective gods.

>>2338109

>Ahwaz is Arab

And Northern Iraq is Kurdish, by that logic it should be independant, instead of being part of Iraq.

As for Ahvaz, it has oil, so nobody's giving it up.

The mentality behind all the villainous ploys that were used looks as if it were inspired by Hanna Barbera cartoons.

>>2338241
its arab land occupied by persian dogs.

>>2338220
iraqi shi'ites are as bad as wahhabists, khomeini used to have "temporary marriages" with 9 year old girls when he lived in iraq.

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>>2338276
The fuck do you expect from those idiots?

>>2338278

In that case Ar*bs should stop occupying Kurdish land, Mosul and Kirkuk should be part of a free Kurdistan.

Hopefully Kurds continue removing Ar*bs and Ass*rians from their land.

http://www.speroforum.com/a/6602/Kurds-remove-Arabs-and-Assyrians-thru-violence

>>2333758
>Was there modern war more metal than Iraq-Iran?
No it's the WWI of the future

>>2338309

What will the WWII be then?

I know the Syrian civil war is like the Spanish civil war of the future.

>>2338278
Then try conquering it back without the help of your daddy America.
If you cant, fuck off.

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>>2335852

All the foreign support in the world can't make an Arab fight properly.

How else do you think they managed to lose against Israel 1v6?

>>2338310
Hmm I can't actually think of one.

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>>2337194
what is it about their culture that makes them wake up one day and decide to make hitler and stalin look like children

>>2338289
The Kurds had a checkpoint north of Mosul and south of Duhok, where they'd stop everybody, look at them, and if they didn't like them, told those niggers to turn the fuck around and get the hell out. They gave two shits about "offending" anyone.

Too bad the U.S. and Europe are so fucking cucked that they can't do shit like that to defend their nations.

>>2337769
>USA
>Switzerland
>Saudi Arabia
>Urugay
>Sweden
>Norway
This is your example of shitholes?

>>2338379

All of those except Switzerland are third world or close to third world.

>>2338403
farce.

>>2338403
0/10 apply yourself

>>2337916
>African warfare is a lot like what theoreticians predicted warfare would be like before wwi.
fuuck that's interesting

>>2338418
>t. UrgayANO

>>2338427
What does that even mean

>>2338379
Ameri-kun Uragayan here. Apparently it has some of the most gun ownership per capita but just below the U.S. Still, things like automatic and semiautomatic rifles are rare and a big fuss is made over 9mm since that and anything higher is considered a weapon of war, just like in Argieland.
Pakistan is probably more comparable if not freer than the U.S.

>>2336333
>brown bear
Are these the ones where you can act like a big guy and probably drive them off, or are these the ones that don't give a shit?

>>2338289
>Ass*rians
I thought they haven't been a thing for like two thousand years now.

>>2335273
I'm sorry, the cars acted as anti-paratrooper emplacements?

Could you please explain

>>2338674
Helicopters can't land in the car fields.
Parajumping into them is very dangerous.

>>2336129
It's also worth mentioning that "their" side lost at Karbala. They were literally using a lost battle for motivation, and not in the way of "let's avenge our guys".

>>2336187
Qarmatians were Ismaili, not Twelvers. And even then they were wildly divergent from mainstream, with gnostic and Zoroastrian beliefs mixed in liberally.

>>2338730
Only if they put spikes on the backs of the cars, surely.

>>2338289
Kurds aren't humans, the only person who knew how to deal with them was Saddam, shame he didn't kill more. Don't worry, the hashd al shaabi is preparing to clean Iraq of Kurdish filth as soon as the Mosul thing is finished.

>>2338403
Switzerland is a shit hole and so conservative that nobody informed wants to go there. Men get 2 days leave to care for their children and women get at most 1 month. In Sweden it's 480 days which you can split however you want.

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>>2333845
>Not only did Iraq have the support of the world, yes the world (USA, NATO, and even Russia), they were faced against a country who just got out of a bloody revolution with zero organization and equipment.
>This level of incompetence is unmatched.

Well, actually something similar already happened before....

>>2337916
>thinking it was all top-tier operator stuff
The majority of the troops involved were shit-tier rebels in the Congo, man. They weren't gonna do anything impressive.

>>2338873
>It's also worth mentioning that "their" side lost at Karbala


I don't think you understand where the Shia and the Shia Batiniyya draw their legitimacy from.


It doesn't matter who won at Kerbela back then and even during the Iran/Iraq war.

The Shia draw legitimacy partially from all the suffering they have endured amongst other things.

Couple suffering with millenarianism

>>2338645
>>brown bear

You're thinking of black bears.

Brown bears are bigger, and more likely to fuck you up than black bears.

>>2335295
>>2335346

>Maybe the idea was to reduce the amount of open ground near the city for the paratroopers to land in?

pretty much this.

paratroopers would aim for the space between cars which would cause collisions.

although considering the CURRAZY i wouldn't be surprised if iranians paradropped from magic carpets with 2 men sharing a single parachute.

>>2337916
Wtf I love Africa now!

>>2339838
I know that to step in the footsteps of Hussein is the goal of every Shi'a. Every day is Ashura, every land Karbala, etc.

Still, to use this as a war propaganda is kind of surprising, because the goal of war isn't really comparable with the goal of this kind of religious experience. I don't believe any Christian state has urged its soldiers to follow Jesus' example and get themselves killed.

>>2333845
>with zero organization and equipment
>zero equipment
The Shah bought tons of fancy weaponry with his oilmoney, at the outbreak of the war the iranians had a fair amount of gear.

>>2338317
Israel being one of Iran's few supporters will never cease to entertain me.

>>2337412
Not that I know of. I'll ask him when the time comes. You never know
>>2337894
What side of the war?

>>2340379
It wasn't, well if you want to believe ex senior chief of Hareetz it's up to you.

>>2339445
What the fuck is that blob between Austria, Russia, and Germany? That whole region there seems fucked up.

>>2340221
>I don't believe any Christian state has urged its soldiers to follow Jesus' example and get themselves killed.
I'm sure there was some crazy bullshit in the early Modern Era, after Luther and before Westphalia.

>>2334887
Indonesia is now 10%+ Christian from <1% in 1950. Islam there is somewhat diluted in syncretism with previous cults. Without constant moral support from the continent, islam may enter a phase a slow decline in Indonesia.

>>2337939
My biggest problem with Trump isn't
>Muh minorities
my problem with him is the fact that even during the campaign he had no idea how to enact any of his broad goals, and now that he's president the people who voted for him will be faced with that fact.
>Look he's actually going to build a wall and he tried to ban muslims
Cool, both of those things are within presidential power, for the most part, but all the stuff about bringing back jobs and repairing infrastructure are going to flounder once he realizes that his chosen party views any kind of spending as the devil no matter what positive effect it may have.

The fact that he's acting like a school yard bully that the rest of the kids have learned to stand up to is just icing on the cake.
>Haha I insulted you guys throughout the entire campaign.
>Wait why are you guys being so mean to meeee?

>>2341331
Do you mean Pr*ssia?

>>2341397
Prussia looked roughly like a big C at furthest extent, this thing is just a blob.